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scleroderma / implants / paraffin / silicone
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sheesh…never mind… wrong thread… I think one of my posts got lost during the isp crash… more later J
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- Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Found in Chemical Exposures – Low Levels and High Stakes Nicholas A. Ashford and Claudia S. Miller (1991) P 180 Scleroderma: Scleroderma-like syndromes (scleroderma is a connective tissue disorder that can affect the skin, lung, esophagus and other tissues) have been linked to a variety of environmental exposures including vinyl chloride, silica dust, organic solvents, epoxy resins, and ingestion of toxic cooking oil in Spain (Black 1988). Specific features of the illnesses resulting from each type of exposure vary somewhat, but overlap is significant. Other exposures that have been related to scleroderma-like illnesses include various drugs, breast augmentation (paraffin and silicone), and use of hair dyes (Fremi-Titulaer 1989). Hair dyes contain aromatic amines that are absorbed through the scalp and metabolized by acetylation in the liver. Individuals who are slow acetylators, that is, those whose enzymes do not break down these amines as readily, may be at greater risk for the disease. Can’t find the "Fremi-Titulaer" report on-line..or I do find a few but they are not that particular one or are not in English. Get lots of "hits" using http://www.ussc.alltheweb.com/ (if anyone is interested) on keywords "paraffin silicone" including http://www.medinfo.co.za/data/med_info/silicone.htm <snipThere are 69 cases reported cases world-wide of women who contracted CTD after breast enlargements. In 12 of these cases liquid paraffin (not silicone!) had been injected, and in 31 cases impure liquid silicone was injected into the breast tissue. This leaves a total of 26 women (out of approximately three million women who have had breast implants) who contracted CTD. This incidence is much lower than one would expect in the normal population of a similar age group.<snip also http://biotech.ufl.edu/~emcl/tips.html http://biotech.ufl.edu/icbr/emcl/db/si.html http://biotech.ufl.edu/icbr/emcl/db/polymerize.html (wondered about air-borne bacteria getting into implants) FYI and FWIW J
another response from the other sources: he said: I would ask for a whole lot of supporting data from anybody who claims that anything in particular causes asthma. ASTHMA IN PATIENTS WITH SILICONE BREAST IMPLANTS: REPORT OF A CASE SERIES AND IDENTIFICATION OF HEXACHLOROPLATINATE CONTAMINANT AS A POSSIBLE ETIOLOGIC AGENT. Michael R Harbut Brenda C Churchill* IJOH; 1999; 3:73-82. University, School of Medicine, Detroit, Michigan, and *Department of Internal Medicine, Providence Hospital, Southfield, Michigan
he said: First of all, I am not familar with the journal ‘IJOH’ (Illinois Journal of Health?). And due to the fact that my internet turnaround time is about 12 hours – I cannot currently research them. Also remember the rule: "One study does not a conclusion make." Hexachloroplatinate, a potent sensitizer and component of breast implants, is identified as the likely primary etiologic agent in view of findings consistent with platinosis in these patients, and the demonstration of the leaching of hexachloroplatinate from even intact silicone breast implants.
he said: This is half of the data needed. They also need to show that this (and only this) is also associated with an increased incidence of asthma. Would appreciate your comment…because I am getting info on another issue
from Wayne State U.. Do you consider them to be a reliable source or does it just depend on the study and who the studiers are? he said: The thing to look at is 1) the reputation of the publishing journal, and 2) the methodology of the study. Also, you should look at the comments sections of subsequent issues. If the article is flamed by the readers you can suspect that something slipped past the quality control people. end of snip
Wonder if Dr. Harbut had done follow-ups or knows of additional studies on this? J
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No date, Ilena. J – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – jean, was there a date on the last article ??? was it 1991 also? i’ve never heard 3 million women with implants nor is is accurate that only 26 implanted women have SD. we have FAR more than that in our Support Group alone! thanks for the info. **Found in Chemical Exposures – Low Levels and High Stakes **Nicholas A. Ashford and Claudia S. Miller (1991) **P 180 ** **Scleroderma: **Scleroderma-like syndromes (scleroderma is a connective tissue disorder **that can affect the skin, lung, esophagus and other tissues) have been **linked to a variety of environmental exposures including vinyl chloride, **silica dust, organic solvents, epoxy resins, and ingestion of toxic **cooking oil in Spain (Black 1988). Specific features of the illnesses **resulting from each type of exposure vary somewhat, but overlap is **significant. Other exposures that have been related to scleroderma-like **illnesses include various drugs, breast augmentation (paraffin and **silicone), and use of hair dyes (Fremi-Titulaer 1989). Hair dyes **contain aromatic amines that are absorbed through the scalp and **metabolized by acetylation in the liver. Individuals who are slow **acetylators, that is, those whose enzymes do not break down these amines **as readily, may be at greater risk for the disease. **Can’t find the "Fremi-Titulaer" report on-line..or I do find a few but **they are not that particular one or are not in English. ** **Get lots of "hits" using http://www.ussc.alltheweb.com/ (if anyone is **interested) **on keywords "paraffin silicone" **including http://www.medinfo.co.za/data/med_info/silicone.htm ** **<snipThere are 69 cases reported cases world-wide of women who **contracted CTD after breast enlargements. In 12 of these cases liquid **paraffin (not silicone!) had been injected, and in 31 cases impure **liquid silicone was injected into the breast tissue. This leaves a total **of 26 women (out of approximately three million women who have had **breast implants) who contracted CTD. This incidence is much lower than **one would expect in the normal population of a similar age group.<snip ** **also http://biotech.ufl.edu/~emcl/tips.html **http://biotech.ufl.edu/icbr/emcl/db/si.html ** **http://biotech.ufl.edu/icbr/emcl/db/polymerize.html (wondered about **air-borne bacteria getting into implants) ** **FYI and FWIW **J
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i’ve never heard 3 million women with implants we have FAR more than that in our Support Group alone!
Example of how Ilena works her cut and paste out of context. I used her tequenique here.
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With apologies to Jean. Example of how Ilena works her cut and paste out of context. I used her technique here. – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -i’ve never heard 3 million women with implants we have FAR more than that in our Support Group alone!
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but then your Job as Marine to MoleOne is to try to make her look better and me worse
Thanks for doing my job for me, I guess.<G
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**but then your Job as Marine to MoleOne **is to try to make her look better and me worse ** **Thanks for doing my job for me, I guess.<G you’ve made yourself look like just another Mole/$hill.
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why not use the ugly Schaezlerism’s c&pee’d into my atheist postings? far better example ~ but then your Job as Marine to MoleOne is to try to make her look better and me worse
**With apologies to Jean. ** **Example of how Ilena works her cut and paste out of context. I used her **technique here. ** **i’ve never heard 3 million women with implants **we have FAR more than that in our Support Group alone!
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jean, was there a date on the last article ??? was it 1991 also? i’ve never heard 3 million women with implants nor is is accurate that only 26 implanted women have SD. we have FAR more than that in our Support Group alone! thanks for the info.
**Found in Chemical Exposures – Low Levels and High Stakes **Nicholas A. Ashford and Claudia S. Miller (1991) **P 180 ** **Scleroderma: **Scleroderma-like syndromes (scleroderma is a connective tissue disorder **that can affect the skin, lung, esophagus and other tissues) have been **linked to a variety of environmental exposures including vinyl chloride, **silica dust, organic solvents, epoxy resins, and ingestion of toxic **cooking oil in Spain (Black 1988). Specific features of the illnesses **resulting from each type of exposure vary somewhat, but overlap is **significant. Other exposures that have been related to scleroderma-like **illnesses include various drugs, breast augmentation (paraffin and **silicone), and use of hair dyes (Fremi-Titulaer 1989). Hair dyes **contain aromatic amines that are absorbed through the scalp and **metabolized by acetylation in the liver. Individuals who are slow **acetylators, that is, those whose enzymes do not break down these amines **as readily, may be at greater risk for the disease. **Can’t find the "Fremi-Titulaer" report on-line..or I do find a few but **they are not that particular one or are not in English. ** **Get lots of "hits" using http://www.ussc.alltheweb.com/ (if anyone is **interested) **on keywords "paraffin silicone" **including http://www.medinfo.co.za/data/med_info/silicone.htm ** **<snipThere are 69 cases reported cases world-wide of women who **contracted CTD after breast enlargements. In 12 of these cases liquid **paraffin (not silicone!) had been injected, and in 31 cases impure **liquid silicone was injected into the breast tissue. This leaves a total **of 26 women (out of approximately three million women who have had **breast implants) who contracted CTD. This incidence is much lower than **one would expect in the normal population of a similar age group.<snip ** **also http://biotech.ufl.edu/~emcl/tips.html **http://biotech.ufl.edu/icbr/emcl/db/si.html ** **http://biotech.ufl.edu/icbr/emcl/db/polymerize.html (wondered about **air-borne bacteria getting into implants) ** **FYI and FWIW **J
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Found in Chemical Exposures – Low Levels and High Stakes Nicholas A. Ashford and Claudia S. Miller (1991) P 180 Scleroderma: Scleroderma-like syndromes (scleroderma is a connective tissue disorder that can affect the skin, lung, esophagus and other tissues) have been linked to a variety of environmental exposures including vinyl chloride, silica dust, organic solvents, epoxy resins, and ingestion of toxic cooking oil in Spain (Black 1988). Specific features of the illnesses resulting from each type of exposure vary somewhat, but overlap is significant. Other exposures that have been related to scleroderma-like illnesses include various drugs, breast augmentation (paraffin and silicone), and use of hair dyes (Fremi-Titulaer 1989). Hair dyes contain aromatic amines that are absorbed through the scalp and metabolized by acetylation in the liver. Individuals who are slow acetylators, that is, those whose enzymes do not break down these amines as readily, may be at greater risk for the disease. Can’t find the "Fremi-Titulaer" report on-line..or I do find a few but they are not that particular one or are not in English. Get lots of "hits" using http://www.ussc.alltheweb.com/ (if anyone is interested) on keywords "paraffin silicone" including http://www.medinfo.co.za/data/med_info/silicone.htm <snipThere are 69 cases reported cases world-wide of women who contracted CTD after breast enlargements. In 12 of these cases liquid paraffin (not silicone!) had been injected, and in 31 cases impure liquid silicone was injected into the breast tissue. This leaves a total of 26 women (out of approximately three million women who have had breast implants) who contracted CTD. This incidence is much lower than one would expect in the normal population of a similar age group.<snip also http://biotech.ufl.edu/~emcl/tips.html http://biotech.ufl.edu/icbr/emcl/db/si.html http://biotech.ufl.edu/icbr/emcl/db/polymerize.html (wondered about air-borne bacteria getting into implants) FYI and FWIW J
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