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also I might mention that this was NOT mentioned as a CURE for crohns but a very promising treatment when other treatments don’t work.  To my knowledge there is no cure for crohns nor do they know where it starts or begans. Gary

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Hi Rose!!  Unfortunately for those of us with Crohn’s , what your friends are talking about is not a cure. However , the new medicine getting alot of attention in the news today should provide those of us not getting as much relief as we would like form current therapies a big boost.  According to my doctor who has been using the medicine known as infliximab or remicade in trials at Mount Sinai in New York, this treatment is a substantial advance over current therapies. It is an intravenous drip treatment however and is rather expensive. I want to investigate the chance that my insurance will cover it. The medicine is produced by Centocor from PA and will be available in early October.  Contact your doctor ; I know i’ll be talking to mine!!  Good luck in your battle against this disease.

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National Public Rasdio carried a report yesterday on Infliximab by Centocor Corp (sp?). Not a cure but incredibly effective, they said….and $1000 per dose, wholesale???? John

Wow!  $1,000 per dose?  Let us hope one dose works then.  However, when my Crohn’s is really bad, $1,000 seems like a small sum of money if something that really works is available. Roseanne Roseannadanna AGC Visually Impaired Item Maintenance Technician See the Blind Item Website at:  http://members.tripod.com/~Rogow/RoRo.htm Keeper of Daniel Day-Lewis!   BAGC

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I read a news article in the paper yesterday that said the treatment would cost abut $1700

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Check out the web site of the manufactor   www.centocor.com I think it is half that price around $500 – $550 Gary

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Two people I have spoken to said they heard a news story (I don’t know which news station) that there is a new cure for crohn’s disease.  They remember it saying something to the effect that crohn’s disease is related to the gastric juices from our stomaches.  Apparently the story also stated that there is a new cure that would require intravenous treatment every six months. Did anyone else catch this story?  Sounds too good to be true.  It would have been on a Canadian news station.  I am going to try and contact a couple of the local stations around here but I thought I’d try this news group first. Thanks Rose

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National Public Rasdio carried a report yesterday on Infliximab by Centocor Corp (sp?). Not a cure but incredibly effective, they said….and $1000 per dose, wholesale???? John

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National Public Rasdio carried a report yesterday on Infliximab by Centocor Corp (sp?). Not a cure but incredibly effective, they said….and $1000 per dose, wholesale???? John

NOT A CURE!!!  JUST SOME HELP< HERE IS THE ARTICLE: FDA Approves Centocor’s REMICADE(TM) to Treat Crohn’s Disease; First New Product in 30 Years Indicated for This Serious Gastrointestinal Condition MALVERN, Pa., Aug. 24 /PRNewswire/ — The Food and Drug Administration (FDA) today approved REMICADE(TM) (infliximab), Centocor’s (Nasdaq: CNTO) treatment for patients with Crohn’s disease, a chronic and debilitating disorder of the gastrointestinal tract that can greatly affect a patient’s quality of life. REMICADE was formerly known as Avakine. REMICADE is the first of a new class of agents that blocks activity of a key biologic response mediator called tumor necrosis factor alpha (TNF-alpha). It is believed that REMICADE reduces intestinal inflammation in patients with Crohn’s disease by binding to and neutralizing TNF-alpha on the cell membrane and in the blood and by destroying TNF-alpha producing cells. This action may explain why REMICADE is a particularly effective inhibitor of TNF-alpha and why REMICADE has a rapid and substantial clinical benefit. REMICADE is indicated for treatment of moderately to severely active Crohn’s disease for the reduction of the signs and symptoms, in patients who have an inadequate response to conventional therapy.  It is also indicated as a treatment for patients with fistulizing Crohn’s disease for reduction in the number of draining enterocutaneous fistula(s).  The safety and efficacy of REMICADE beyond the recommended duration of treatment have not been established.  As previously announced, on May 28, 1998, an FDA Advisory Committee unanimously recommended REMICADE for approval. "Based on results from clinical trials, REMICADE has been shown to have a rapid and substantial effect in reducing the signs and symptoms of Crohn’s disease," said Thomas Schaible, Ph.D., director, medical affairs, Centocor. In a clinical trial of 108 patients with moderately to severely active Crohn’s disease who did not respond adequately to conventional therapies, 82 percent of patients treated with REMICADE at the recommended dose (5 mg/kg) achieved a clinical response at week 4 vs. 16 percent of patients who received placebo (p<0.001).  In this study, 48 percent of patients treated with REMICADE went into clinical remission at week 4 vs. four percent of patients who received placebo (p<0.001).  Overall, 92 percent of patients enrolled in the trial continued to receive stable doses of corticosteroids, antibiotics, aminosalicylates or other immunomodulators. REMICADE was also shown to be effective in reducing the number of open, draining fistulas, a painful complication of Crohn’s disease in which deep openings burrow from the bowel wall through the surface of the skin, causing drainage of mucous and/or fecal material.  REMICADE is the first product documented to reduce the number of open fistulas in a controlled clinical trial. In a clinical study of 94 patients with fistulizing Crohn’s disease (42 patients had single fistula and 52 patients had multiple fistulas), 68 percent of those treated at the recommended dose of REMICADE experienced closure of at least 50 percent of fistula(s) for four weeks or more compared with 26 percent of placebo-treated patients (p=0.002).  More than one-half (55 percent) of patients with single or multiple fistula(s) treated with REMICADE experienced a clinical effect demonstrated clinical response to treatment with REMICADE developed an abscess in the area of the fistula between eight and 16 weeks after the last infusion. "REMICADE represents a significant advance in the treatment of Crohn’s disease," said Stephen B. Hanauer, M.D., University of Chicago Medical Center, Department of Gastroenterology, and a principal investigator in the clinical trials.  "These patients suffer terribly and we physicians now have an important option available to treat them." Approximately five percent of Crohn’s disease patients studied discontinued REMICADE treatment.  The most common reasons for discontinuation were infusion reactions and infections.  On rare occasions, these reactions were serious but resolved with standard treatment for hypersensitivity reactions or discontinuation of REMICADE therapy.  The most common adverse reactions occurring more frequently with REMICADE than placebo include nausea, upper respiratory tract infections and abdominal pain.  REMICADE therapy may result in the development of autoantibodies.  However, development of such autoantibodies rarely leads to clinical symptoms or discontinuation of therapy. The dosage for patients with non-fistulizing moderately to severely active Crohn’s disease is a single infusion of 5 mg/kg of REMICADE.  The dosage for patients with fistulizing disease is an initial dose of 5 mg/kg followed with additional doses of 5 mg/kg at two and six weeks after the first infusion. REMICADE will be shipped to distributors nationwide in late September or early October (1998).  Centocor will sell Remicade to wholesalers and distributors at a list price of $450 per vial.  The average Crohn’s disease patient will require 3 to 4 vials of Remicade per infusion. Centocor has retained exclusive marketing rights for REMICADE in the United States.  Following approval from global regulatory agencies, Tanabe Seiyaku Co., Ltd. will market the product in Japan and parts of the Far East, while Schering-Plough Corporation will market REMICADE in all other countries throughout the world. "We will continue studying REMICADE in patients with Crohn’s disease and have plans to initiate a trial in patients with active disease to examine long-term efficacy and steroid-sparing effects," said David P. Holveck, chief executive officer.  "We are also investigating the use of REMICADE in pediatric patients with Crohn’s disease.  In addition, we continue to investigate the use of REMICADE for other indications. "Together with our currently marketed cardiovascular products, ReoPro(R) (abciximab) and Retavase(R) (reteplase), REMICADE will give Centocor three major therapeutic products in its portfolio," said Holveck.   He added that the company continues its clinical research in rheumatoid arthritis and cancer. Centocor is a biopharmaceutical company that develops or acquires and commercializes novel therapeutic products that solve critical needs in human healthcare.  The company’s primary technology focus is on monoclonal antibodies and DNA-based products.  For more information, visit Centocor’s website at www.centocor.com. For additional information about Crohn’s disease, contact the Crohn’s and Colitis Foundation of America at 1-800-343-3637 or visit its website at www.ccfa.org. For a copy of the full prescribing information for REMICADE, call 800-753-0352 x709. Certain of the matters discussed herein with respect to future earnings, clinical studies and the Company’s products may constitute forward-looking statements within the meaning of the Private Securities Litigation Reform Act of 1995.  Such forward-looking statements are based on current expectations, estimates and projections about the Company’s industry, management’s beliefs and certain assumptions made by the Company’s management.  Investors are cautioned that matters subject to forward-looking statements involve risks and uncertainties, including economic, competitive, governmental, technological and other factors discussed in the Company’s filings with the Securities and Exchange Commission, which may affect the Company’s business and prospects. More specifically, there can be no assurance that this product will achieve commercial success or that competing products will not preempt any market opportunity that might exist for the product.

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Jessica,     Hi! This is vey interesting. I dont have psorisis but alot of people in my family do.. mainly the males though. Let me know what you find out. I hope that you are doing well. Take Care, Menoi http://members.aol.com/mandre2517/endo.html

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Dear Jessica, I suffer from psoriasis on my scalp and in my ears! I have endo.  My sister suffers from a form of arthritis called psoriatic arthritis, which does have a link to psoriasis.  She doesn’t suffer from endo. My mom doesn’t have psoriasis, but did have endo.  She had a hysterectomy when she was 29.  My dad had psoriasis when he was alive…HE DIDN’T HAVE ENDO! LMAO sorry, I couldn’t resist that one. Hugs, Robin

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I suffer from both endo and psoriasis.  From what I understand, IBS like symptoms and crohn’s disease often go with psoriasis due to a similarity of the mucosa lining the stomach to one’s skin.  Hormone fluctuations also seem to exacerbate this condition.  Due to the fact that these things can also be linked to endo and the similarity between the two conditions (both involve the excess growth of tissue where it ought not to be), I wonder if it isn’t possible that they are somehow related. Jessica

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Hi Jessica, My husband suffers from psoriasis and we wondered the same thing but for a different reason.  We were living in an apartment where they sprayed for bugs once a month and that’s when I got my serious symptoms (excrutiating pain) and he developed psoriasis.  I know endo is dioxin related so I’m sure it’s possible that psoriasis is as well.  But he also has vitiligo so who knows.  I did endo up having some kind of hives outbreak and my husband had a few of those two.  His mother was never diagnosed with endo, but did have a hard time conceiving and does have a thyroid problem now.  I really think all of these things are related, but I also think there are more reasons than dioxins that are causing these problems. Mindi

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How intriguing, a hypoactive thyroid is ALSO on my list of probs.  I’ve wondered about that as a possible link/cause as well. Jessica

– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -Hi Jessica, My husband suffers from psoriasis and we wondered the same thing but for a different reason.  We were living in an apartment where they sprayed for bugs once a month and that’s when I got my serious symptoms (excrutiating pain) and he developed psoriasis.  I know endo is dioxin related so I’m sure it’s possible that psoriasis is as well.  But he also has vitiligo so who knows.  I did endo up having some kind of hives outbreak and my husband had a few of those two.  His mother was never diagnosed with endo, but did have a hard time conceiving and does have a thyroid problem now.  I really think all of these things are related, but I also think there are more reasons than dioxins that are causing these problems. Mindi

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Sometimes a lack of Vitamin K can cause nosebleeds…it can’t hurt to try.  Good luck! Andrea

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Hi all, My four year old daughter has woken up every night for the last two weeks with nose bleeds. Sometimes she bleeds quite a lot. … Anyway, does anyone have a clue about what we can do to help the little tyke?… Ralph Durtschi

Be sure and check for more serious disorders as others suggest, but for the actual state of the blood vessels try Vitamin C and Pycnogenol.   Pycnogenol was been shown to increase the strength of the blood vessels.  There are three major ways that Pycnogenol protects blood vessels. 1  Vitamin C is needed for the production of callogen, which reinforces the capillaries.  Pycnogenol helps Vitamin C in several ways. 2  Pycnogenol adheres to the callogen protecting it directly. 3  Pycnogenol protects the blood cell walls. Professor Jacques Masquelier, in 1965, gave 45 persons suffering from venous or capillary disorders a single 100 mg supplement of Pycnogenol and 72 hours later they were found to have increased capillary resistance by 140 percent.  (Feine-Haake, G., "A new therapy for venous diseases."   Zeitschrift fur Allgemeinmedizin 839 (June 30, 1975). I personally take Pycnogenol for symptoms of Crohn’s disease and have found it very helpful to me without negative side effects.   Remember to take the Vitamin C.  As, Pycnogenol and Vitamin C are very safe, so you can minimize the danger of drugs to your daughter’s health while still trying to stop the bleeding. Bless you and your daughter, let me know how things turn out. Kevin — One of the few things I am sure of is my own ignorance…and yours for that matter.  :-D

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: Hi all, : My four year old daughter has woken up every night for the last two weeks : with nose bleeds. Sometimes she bleeds quite a lot. I don’t think she is : picking her nose because the other day she took a nap on the sofa where : my wife was sitting and watching TV and my daughters nose began to bleed. : Also, she says she dosn’t pick her nose. : Anyway, does anyone have a clue about what we can do to help the little tyke? : She is so hopeless she has started sleeping with a wad of tissue paper. : Thanks, and bye for now, : Ralph Durtschi While most cases of spontaneous nose bleeding in children is benign perhaps caused by fragility of vessels in Kiesselbach’s plexus in the nasal septum aggravated by excessive dryness in the air it is important to RULE OUT more serious conditions such as the different blood dyscrasias (hemophilia, leukemia) that may present with epistaxis. Does she bruise easily or generally have more difficulty with clotting when she cuts herself? If so this is possible indication of more serious disorder. Good luck. Aloha, Rich

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: Hi all, : My four year old daughter has woken up every night for the last two : weeks with nose bleeds. Sometimes she bleeds quite a lot. I don’t : think she is picking her nose because the other day she took a nap : on the sofa where my wife was sitting and watching TV and my : daughters nose began to bleed. Also, she says she dosn’t pick her nose. : : Anyway, does anyone have a clue about what we can do to help the : little tyke? She is so hopeless she has started sleeping with a wad : of tissue paper. : : Thanks, and bye for now, : Ralph Durtschi Nighttime bleeding is a strong predictor of a Yin Depleted condition, unless she is on some sort of drug that would produce Dryness, or in a very dry room. Does she feel unusually warm to the touch, and is her head often damp at night with sweat? —

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Hi all, My four year old daughter has woken up every night for the last two weeks with nose bleeds. Sometimes she bleeds quite a lot. I don’t think she is picking her nose because the other day she took a nap on the sofa where my wife was sitting and watching TV and my daughters nose began to bleed. Also, she says she dosn’t pick her nose. Anyway, does anyone have a clue about what we can do to help the little tyke? She is so hopeless she has started sleeping with a wad of tissue paper. Thanks, and bye for now, Ralph Durtschi

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