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Its nice hearing about these little miracles. What might work for 1 might not work for another. Thats gr8 u found something so simple to relieve all that suffering. I was able to get away from the drs, their drugs and 90% suffering by taking multi-enzymes for 5 years. Stan

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- Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Yes!  I believe!  I also have the following new cures that I figured out myself too: 1 – The Strawberry Jello on my Head Cure     Take strawberry Jello and put it on your head.  In no time, you will have formed stools.  This also cures Dispepsia and Lazy Eye. 2 – The Slam Your Hand in a Car Door Cure     Take your hand and slam it a few times in a car door.  I did this while drunk and it sobered me right up!  It was amazing.  Everything became so clear! 3 – The Bannana in the Tailpipe Cure     I saw a girl do this at a bachelor party once.  I wont get into HOW she did it, I just felt better almost immediately after watching this girl do it.  Not sure what it cured.  But it helped! 4 – The Listerine on your Genitals Cure     BOY did that hurt!  But now I dont need to slam my hand in a car door. Now, I can add to the list the cotton ball in my ear cure!  Just think of all the money I am saving on Doctor bills! Andy

andy roflmao and may i add? 5)Stepping in dog pile cure its very scientific..the stench on your shoe stops your breath so you dont inhale polluted air..so you help your immune system…trying to wipe the shoe off on the sidewalk will exercise your joints so you wont have pain there…then after you have been unsuccessful…taking a big leaf to wipe the crap off will exercise your hand joints and arms… and finally…when you get home and you find the crap all over your hands..throwing up will ease your stomach… someone please..get me a dog.. annie(5 cats..no crap on the sidewalk)

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figures don’t it?  lol jeffy

– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – i knew balls were good for something.. who knew they would be made of cotton… Yes!  I believe!  I also have the following new cures that I figured out myself too: 1 – The Strawberry Jello on my Head Cure     Take strawberry Jello and put it on your head.  In no time, you will have formed stools.  This also cures Dispepsia and Lazy Eye. 2 – The Slam Your Hand in a Car Door Cure     Take your hand and slam it a few times in a car door.  I did this while drunk and it sobered me right up!  It was amazing.  Everything became so clear! 3 – The Bannana in the Tailpipe Cure     I saw a girl do this at a bachelor party once.  I wont get into HOW she did it, I just felt better almost immediately after watching this girl do it.  Not sure what it cured.  But it helped! 4 – The Listerine on your Genitals Cure     BOY did that hurt!  But now I dont need to slam my hand in a car door. Now, I can add to the list the cotton ball in my ear cure!  Just think of all the money I am saving on Doctor bills! Andy

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geezzz i wonder what a carrot up the nose will do for your ibd???   one nostral or two???  hee, hee…. lmao. jeffy

– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Yes!  I believe!  I also have the following new cures that I figured out myself too: 1 – The Strawberry Jello on my Head Cure     Take strawberry Jello and put it on your head.  In no time, you will have formed stools.  This also cures Dispepsia and Lazy Eye. 2 – The Slam Your Hand in a Car Door Cure     Take your hand and slam it a few times in a car door.  I did this while drunk and it sobered me right up!  It was amazing.  Everything became so clear! 3 – The Bannana in the Tailpipe Cure     I saw a girl do this at a bachelor party once.  I wont get into HOW she did it, I just felt better almost immediately after watching this girl do it.  Not sure what it cured.  But it helped! 4 – The Listerine on your Genitals Cure     BOY did that hurt!  But now I dont need to slam my hand in a car door. Now, I can add to the list the cotton ball in my ear cure!  Just think of all the money I am saving on Doctor bills! Andy

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Boy, we REALY have MISSED your humor….ROTFLMAO – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Yes!  I believe!  I also have the following new cures that I figured out myself too: 1 – The Strawberry Jello on my Head Cure    Take strawberry Jello and put it on your head.  In no time, you will have formed stools.  This also cures Dispepsia and Lazy Eye. 2 – The Slam Your Hand in a Car Door Cure    Take your hand and slam it a few times in a car door.  I did this while drunk and it sobered me right up!  It was amazing.  Everything became so clear! 3 – The Bannana in the Tailpipe Cure    I saw a girl do this at a bachelor party once.  I wont get into HOW she did it, I just felt better almost immediately after watching this girl do it.  Not sure what it cured.  But it helped! 4 – The Listerine on your Genitals Cure    BOY did that hurt!  But now I dont need to slam my hand in a car door. Now, I can add to the list the cotton ball in my ear cure!  Just think of all the money I am saving on Doctor bills! Andy

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Thanks Andy!  Those were so funny! Jackie

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ROTFL – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Yes!  I believe!  I also have the following new cures that I figured out myself too:

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oh my…lol…good one, thanks! jeffy

– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Yes!  I believe!  I also have the following new cures that I figured out myself too: 1 – The Strawberry Jello on my Head Cure     Take strawberry Jello and put it on your head.  In no time, you will have formed stools.  This also cures Dispepsia and Lazy Eye. 2 – The Slam Your Hand in a Car Door Cure     Take your hand and slam it a few times in a car door.  I did this while drunk and it sobered me right up!  It was amazing.  Everything became so clear! 3 – The Bannana in the Tailpipe Cure     I saw a girl do this at a bachelor party once.  I wont get into HOW she did it, I just felt better almost immediately after watching this girl do it.  Not sure what it cured.  But it helped! 4 – The Listerine on your Genitals Cure     BOY did that hurt!  But now I dont need to slam my hand in a car door. Now, I can add to the list the cotton ball in my ear cure!  Just think of all the money I am saving on Doctor bills! Andy

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Yes!  I believe!  I also have the following new cures that I figured out myself too: 1 – The Strawberry Jello on my Head Cure     Take strawberry Jello and put it on your head.  In no time, you will have formed stools.  This also cures Dispepsia and Lazy Eye. 2 – The Slam Your Hand in a Car Door Cure     Take your hand and slam it a few times in a car door.  I did this while drunk and it sobered me right up!  It was amazing.  Everything became so clear! 3 – The Bannana in the Tailpipe Cure     I saw a girl do this at a bachelor party once.  I wont get into HOW she did it, I just felt better almost immediately after watching this girl do it.  Not sure what it cured.  But it helped! 4 – The Listerine on your Genitals Cure     BOY did that hurt!  But now I dont need to slam my hand in a car door. Now, I can add to the list the cotton ball in my ear cure!  Just think of all the money I am saving on Doctor bills! Andy

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Pro-  What could it hurt? Con-  I don’t know, but something bad could happen.  It could interact with the meds or make things worse.  Check with your doctor before trying this.  It’s a waste of time and money, all those cotton balls add up over time. Pro- It’s just a cotton ball. What could it hurt? LOL! Feel well. William

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i knew balls were good for something.. who knew they would be made of cotton…

– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Yes!  I believe!  I also have the following new cures that I figured out myself too: 1 – The Strawberry Jello on my Head Cure     Take strawberry Jello and put it on your head.  In no time, you will have formed stools.  This also cures Dispepsia and Lazy Eye. 2 – The Slam Your Hand in a Car Door Cure     Take your hand and slam it a few times in a car door.  I did this while drunk and it sobered me right up!  It was amazing.  Everything became so clear! 3 – The Bannana in the Tailpipe Cure     I saw a girl do this at a bachelor party once.  I wont get into HOW she did it, I just felt better almost immediately after watching this girl do it.  Not sure what it cured.  But it helped! 4 – The Listerine on your Genitals Cure     BOY did that hurt!  But now I dont need to slam my hand in a car door. Now, I can add to the list the cotton ball in my ear cure!  Just think of all the money I am saving on Doctor bills! Andy

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I live on a noisy street and sleep with earplugs..(you know, the wax kind)…my immune system should be kickin’ a….. – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – yeah, i know….give me a friggin breeeeeeeeeeak! jeffy Cotton balls? i didn’t even finish reading this…..sooooo what you selling? jeffy Dear Group, .  I and another man both reduced our colitis symptoms to zero just by inserting a part of a cotton ball in one ear. Period.  I wrote about my experience and why it works in the noncommercial website www.thefetalcure.com and he wrote about his in 4 emails he just sent to me which I have included as part of this post-below. I know that no one believes anything like this unless they experience it so although i am not a physician and cant prescribe this for you I am urging you with colitis and Crohn;s to try it. and let us now what happens, pro or con. If it fails to reduce your symptoms to virtually zero overnight let me know and I can give you a  few lifestyle changes that enhance the effect of the cotton ball  (the other man did not need these to reduce the symptoms of his Ulcerative Colitis to zero but I did).  For now just know that during the time you are near a computer monitor this therpy will have no effect because of the effect of the radiation on our immune system.  Johnson and Johnson brand works best but all brands work so just use what is in your medicine cabinet. It is the pressure of the (natural) cotton ball against this part of the ear where you would put an earplug  that triggers an enormous immune stimulation that creates the effect on colitis  (a synthetic item  will not work) .This response was created by evolution- please see my paper I referred to. above. Whatever you do do not try this during a time when you are using Remicade or any other drug including tylenol (acetaminoqhen)  because this (orobably by increasing circulation) increases the effect of all drugs and could increase their risks or cause overdose.  So please let us know what happens…. Good Luck, Steve Lord, Orange, California, USA   E-mail I am happy to answer any questions. The other man’s email follow:  Please read them-theyre very short. First email: I have read an article written by you about the fetal cure http://www.thefetalcure.com/#top Is this some sort of joke or is it real?. Where did you learn about this technique if it is indeed not a hoax? Should I place a piece of cotton wool in both ears or just one ear? I have been suffering for colitis for more than 20 years and I am prepared to try anything that will free me of this dreaded disease. Second Email. I did the fetal cure last night and the results were amazing. I was suffering a severe flareup with my colitis during the last few weeks. I was having about 20 bowel movements of watery and bloody stools. I placed a cotton ball in my right ear and then sat in the dark for about an hour. I then went to bed with the cotton ball still intact in my ear. I got up this morning and changed the cotton ball and then took a shower with it. I only had one bowel movement today. There was no blood in my stools My stools had a better formation though still watery. My abdominal and back pains were gone. Yes colitis is a autoimmune disease. I would apprecuate it if you could let me know what to avoid with colitis. I would the address of your webside by searching google for a cure for colitis. Someone placed the address of your website on the following message board http://groups.yahoo.com/group/isribd/messages/1 P.S : Can you tell me how you came to know about this wonderful cure? Regards Third Email Day 3 report. All my symptoms of colitis have disappeared except that my stool formation is still not normal. I have noticed that my hayfever/rhinitis has completely vanished. I have been a hayfever sufferer as long as I was suffering from colitis. I will meet my mother in law on Saturday and I will ask her what type of arthritis she has. P.S : Can I post your website on other IBD message boards. I have suffered for such a long time and I really feel sorry for others who have been suffering from this disease. Not everyone will try this cure but there must be other desperate people like me who are willing to give it a try Regards Forth email: Sorry that I was not in contact with you during the last few days. I was feeling so well that I decided to take a little vacation into the mountains. I would have written to you but unfortunately I did not have access to the internet. I have been literally pigging myself during the last few days. I was making up for all the good foods I denied myself for years. Foods that iritated my colitis. I can eat anything that my heart desires now I am still using the cotton ball. My stools are getting more formed by the day. I have an enormous amount of energy. Another thing that I noticed is that I sleep much more better with the cotton ball and I am not waking up very tired like I previously did. Regards

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so, in other words…….WORTHLESS post? jeffy

I read the whole thing including his web site. That technique must cure

every known diseases and injuries. I couldn’t find anything that he is selling but by the sound of it he must have

shares in Johnson and Johnson. – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – — Paul Visit our photo albums at http://www.laflammefamily.ca To reply to this e-mail, replace "deadspam.com" with "laflammefamily.ca" — i didn’t even finish reading this…..sooooo what you selling? jeffy Dear Group, .  I and another man both reduced our colitis symptoms to zero just by inserting a part of a cotton ball in one ear. Period.  I wrote about my experience and why it works in the noncommercial website www.thefetalcure.com and he wrote about his in 4 emails he just sent to me which I have included as part of this post-below. I know that no one believes anything like this unless they experience it so although i am not a physician and cant prescribe this for you I am urging you with colitis and Crohn;s to try it. and let us now what happens, pro or con. If it fails to reduce your symptoms to virtually zero overnight let me know and I can give you a  few lifestyle changes that enhance the effect of the cotton ball  (the other man did not need these to reduce the symptoms of his Ulcerative Colitis to zero but I did).  For now just know that during the time you are near a computer monitor this therpy will have no effect because of the effect of the radiation on our immune system.  Johnson and Johnson brand works best but all brands work so just use what is in your medicine cabinet. It is the pressure of the (natural) cotton ball against this part of the ear where you would put an earplug  that triggers an enormous immune stimulation that creates the effect on colitis  (a synthetic item  will not work) .This response was created by evolution- please see my paper I referred to. above. Whatever you do do not try this during a time when you are using Remicade or any other drug including tylenol (acetaminoqhen)  because this (orobably by increasing circulation) increases the effect of all drugs and could increase their risks or cause overdose.  So please let us know what happens…. Good Luck, Steve Lord, Orange, California, USA   E-mail

– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – I am happy to answer any questions. The other man’s email follow: Please read them-theyre very short. First email: I have read an article written by you about the fetal cure http://www.thefetalcure.com/#top Is this some sort of joke or is it real?. Where did you learn about this technique if it is indeed not a hoax? Should I place a piece of cotton wool in both ears or just one ear? I have been suffering for colitis for more than 20 years and I am prepared to try anything that will free me of this dreaded disease. Second Email. I did the fetal cure last night and the results were amazing. I was suffering a severe flareup with my colitis during the last few weeks. I was having about 20 bowel movements of watery and bloody stools. I placed a cotton ball in my right ear and then sat in the dark for about an hour. I then went to bed with the cotton ball still intact in my ear. I got up this morning and changed the cotton ball and then took a shower with it. I only had one bowel movement today. There was no blood in my stools My stools had a better formation though still watery. My abdominal and back pains were gone. Yes colitis is a autoimmune disease. I would apprecuate it if you could let me know what to avoid with colitis. I would the address of your webside by searching google for a cure for colitis. Someone placed the address of your website on the following message board http://groups.yahoo.com/group/isribd/messages/1 P.S : Can you tell me how you came to know about this wonderful cure? Regards Third Email Day 3 report. All my symptoms of colitis have disappeared except that my stool formation is still not normal. I have noticed that my hayfever/rhinitis has completely vanished. I have been a hayfever sufferer as long as I was suffering from colitis. I will meet my mother in law on Saturday and I will ask her what type of arthritis she has. P.S : Can I post your website on other IBD message boards. I have suffered for such a long time and I really feel sorry for others who have been suffering from this disease. Not everyone will try this cure but there must be other desperate people like me who are willing to give it a try Regards Forth email: Sorry that I was not in contact with you during the last few days. I was feeling so well that I decided to take a little vacation into the mountains. I would have written to you but unfortunately I did not have access to the internet. I have been literally pigging myself during the last few days. I was making up for all the good foods I denied myself for years. Foods that iritated my colitis. I can eat anything that my heart desires now I am still using the cotton ball. My stools are getting more formed by the day. I have an enormous amount of energy. Another thing that I noticed is that I sleep much more better with the cotton ball and I am not waking up very tired like I previously did. Regards

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yeah, i know….give me a friggin breeeeeeeeeeak! jeffy

– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Cotton balls? i didn’t even finish reading this…..sooooo what you selling? jeffy Dear Group, .  I and another man both reduced our colitis symptoms to zero just by inserting a part of a cotton ball in one ear. Period.  I wrote about my experience and why it works in the noncommercial website www.thefetalcure.com and he wrote about his in 4 emails he just sent to me which I have included as part of this post-below. I know that no one believes anything like this unless they experience it so although i am not a physician and cant prescribe this for you I am urging you with colitis and Crohn;s to try it. and let us now what happens, pro or con. If it fails to reduce your symptoms to virtually zero overnight let me know and I can give you a  few lifestyle changes that enhance the effect of the cotton ball  (the other man did not need these to reduce the symptoms of his Ulcerative Colitis to zero but I did).  For now just know that during the time you are near a computer monitor this therpy will have no effect because of the effect of the radiation on our immune system.  Johnson and Johnson brand works best but all brands work so just use what is in your medicine cabinet. It is the pressure of the (natural) cotton ball against this part of the ear where you would put an earplug  that triggers an enormous immune stimulation that creates the effect on colitis  (a synthetic item  will not work) .This response was created by evolution- please see my paper I referred to. above. Whatever you do do not try this during a time when you are using Remicade or any other drug including tylenol (acetaminoqhen)  because this (orobably by increasing circulation) increases the effect of all drugs and could increase their risks or cause overdose.  So please let us know what happens…. Good Luck, Steve Lord, Orange, California, USA   E-mail

– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – I am happy to answer any questions. The other man’s email follow:  Please read them-theyre very short. First email: I have read an article written by you about the fetal cure http://www.thefetalcure.com/#top Is this some sort of joke or is it real?. Where did you learn about this technique if it is indeed not a hoax? Should I place a piece of cotton wool in both ears or just one ear? I have been suffering for colitis for more than 20 years and I am prepared to try anything that will free me of this dreaded disease. Second Email. I did the fetal cure last night and the results were amazing. I was suffering a severe flareup with my colitis during the last few weeks. I was having about 20 bowel movements of watery and bloody stools. I placed a cotton ball in my right ear and then sat in the dark for about an hour. I then went to bed with the cotton ball still intact in my ear. I got up this morning and changed the cotton ball and then took a shower with it. I only had one bowel movement today. There was no blood in my stools My stools had a better formation though still watery. My abdominal and back pains were gone. Yes colitis is a autoimmune disease. I would apprecuate it if you could let me know what to avoid with colitis. I would the address of your webside by searching google for a cure for colitis. Someone placed the address of your website on the following message board http://groups.yahoo.com/group/isribd/messages/1 P.S : Can you tell me how you came to know about this wonderful cure? Regards Third Email Day 3 report. All my symptoms of colitis have disappeared except that my stool formation is still not normal. I have noticed that my hayfever/rhinitis has completely vanished. I have been a hayfever sufferer as long as I was suffering from colitis. I will meet my mother in law on Saturday and I will ask her what type of arthritis she has. P.S : Can I post your website on other IBD message boards. I have suffered for such a long time and I really feel sorry for others who have been suffering from this disease. Not everyone will try this cure but there must be other desperate people like me who are willing to give it a try Regards Forth email: Sorry that I was not in contact with you during the last few days. I was feeling so well that I decided to take a little vacation into the mountains. I would have written to you but unfortunately I did not have access to the internet. I have been literally pigging myself during the last few days. I was making up for all the good foods I denied myself for years. Foods that iritated my colitis. I can eat anything that my heart desires now I am still using the cotton ball. My stools are getting more formed by the day. I have an enormous amount of energy. Another thing that I noticed is that I sleep much more better with the cotton ball and I am not waking up very tired like I previously did. Regards

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Cotton balls? – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – i didn’t even finish reading this…..sooooo what you selling? jeffy Dear Group, .  I and another man both reduced our colitis symptoms to zero just by inserting a part of a cotton ball in one ear. Period.  I wrote about my experience and why it works in the noncommercial website www.thefetalcure.com and he wrote about his in 4 emails he just sent to me which I have included as part of this post-below. I know that no one believes anything like this unless they experience it so although i am not a physician and cant prescribe this for you I am urging you with colitis and Crohn;s to try it. and let us now what happens, pro or con. If it fails to reduce your symptoms to virtually zero overnight let me know and I can give you a  few lifestyle changes that enhance the effect of the cotton ball  (the other man did not need these to reduce the symptoms of his Ulcerative Colitis to zero but I did).  For now just know that during the time you are near a computer monitor this therpy will have no effect because of the effect of the radiation on our immune system.  Johnson and Johnson brand works best but all brands work so just use what is in your medicine cabinet. It is the pressure of the (natural) cotton ball against this part of the ear where you would put an earplug  that triggers an enormous immune stimulation that creates the effect on colitis  (a synthetic item  will not work) .This response was created by evolution- please see my paper I referred to. above. Whatever you do do not try this during a time when you are using Remicade or any other drug including tylenol (acetaminoqhen)  because this (orobably by increasing circulation) increases the effect of all drugs and could increase their risks or cause overdose.  So please let us know what happens…. Good I am happy to answer any questions. The other man’s email follow:  Please read them-theyre very short. First email: I have read an article written by you about the fetal cure http://www.thefetalcure.com/#top Is this some sort of joke or is it real?. Where did you learn about this technique if it is indeed not a hoax? Should I place a piece of cotton wool in both ears or just one ear? I have been suffering for colitis for more than 20 years and I am prepared to try anything that will free me of this dreaded disease. Second Email. I did the fetal cure last night and the results were amazing. I was suffering a severe flareup with my colitis during the last few weeks. I was having about 20 bowel movements of watery and bloody stools. I placed a cotton ball in my right ear and then sat in the dark for about an hour. I then went to bed with the cotton ball still intact in my ear. I got up this morning and changed the cotton ball and then took a shower with it. I only had one bowel movement today. There was no blood in my stools My stools had a better formation though still watery. My abdominal and back pains were gone. Yes colitis is a autoimmune disease. I would apprecuate it if you could let me know what to avoid with colitis. I would the address of your webside by searching google for a cure for colitis. Someone placed the address of your website on the following message board http://groups.yahoo.com/group/isribd/messages/1 P.S : Can you tell me how you came to know about this wonderful cure? Regards Third Email Day 3 report. All my symptoms of colitis have disappeared except that my stool formation is still not normal. I have noticed that my hayfever/rhinitis has completely vanished. I have been a hayfever sufferer as long as I was suffering from colitis. I will meet my mother in law on Saturday and I will ask her what type of arthritis she has. P.S : Can I post your website on other IBD message boards. I have suffered for such a long time and I really feel sorry for others who have been suffering from this disease. Not everyone will try this cure but there must be other desperate people like me who are willing to give it a try Regards Forth email: Sorry that I was not in contact with you during the last few days. I was feeling so well that I decided to take a little vacation into the mountains. I would have written to you but unfortunately I did not have access to the internet. I have been literally pigging myself during the last few days. I was making up for all the good foods I denied myself for years. Foods that iritated my colitis. I can eat anything that my heart desires now I am still using the cotton ball. My stools are getting more formed by the day. I have an enormous amount of energy. Another thing that I noticed is that I sleep much more better with the cotton ball and I am not waking up very tired like I previously did. Regards

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I read the whole thing including his web site. That technique must cure every known diseases and injuries. I couldn’t find anything that he is selling but by the sound of it he must have shares in Johnson and Johnson. — Paul Visit our photo albums at http://www.laflammefamily.ca To reply to this e-mail, replace "deadspam.com" with "laflammefamily.ca" — – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – i didn’t even finish reading this…..sooooo what you selling? jeffy Dear Group, .  I and another man both reduced our colitis symptoms to zero just by inserting a part of a cotton ball in one ear. Period.  I wrote about my experience and why it works in the noncommercial website www.thefetalcure.com and he wrote about his in 4 emails he just sent to me which I have included as part of this post-below. I know that no one believes anything like this unless they experience it so although i am not a physician and cant prescribe this for you I am urging you with colitis and Crohn;s to try it. and let us now what happens, pro or con. If it fails to reduce your symptoms to virtually zero overnight let me know and I can give you a  few lifestyle changes that enhance the effect of the cotton ball  (the other man did not need these to reduce the symptoms of his Ulcerative Colitis to zero but I did).  For now just know that during the time you are near a computer monitor this therpy will have no effect because of the effect of the radiation on our immune system.  Johnson and Johnson brand works best but all brands work so just use what is in your medicine cabinet. It is the pressure of the (natural) cotton ball against this part of the ear where you would put an earplug  that triggers an enormous immune stimulation that creates the effect on colitis  (a synthetic item  will not work) .This response was created by evolution- please see my paper I referred to. above. Whatever you do do not try this during a time when you are using Remicade or any other drug including tylenol (acetaminoqhen)  because this (orobably by increasing circulation) increases the effect of all drugs and could increase their risks or cause overdose.  So please let us know what happens…. Good I am happy to answer any questions. The other man’s email follow:  Please read them-theyre very short. First email: I have read an article written by you about the fetal cure http://www.thefetalcure.com/#top Is this some sort of joke or is it real?. Where did you learn about this technique if it is indeed not a hoax? Should I place a piece of cotton wool in both ears or just one ear? I have been suffering for colitis for more than 20 years and I am prepared to try anything that will free me of this dreaded disease. Second Email. I did the fetal cure last night and the results were amazing. I was suffering a severe flareup with my colitis during the last few weeks. I was having about 20 bowel movements of watery and bloody stools. I placed a cotton ball in my right ear and then sat in the dark for about an hour. I then went to bed with the cotton ball still intact in my ear. I got up this morning and changed the cotton ball and then took a shower with it. I only had one bowel movement today. There was no blood in my stools My stools had a better formation though still watery. My abdominal and back pains were gone. Yes colitis is a autoimmune disease. I would apprecuate it if you could let me know what to avoid with colitis. I would the address of your webside by searching google for a cure for colitis. Someone placed the address of your website on the following message board http://groups.yahoo.com/group/isribd/messages/1 P.S : Can you tell me how you came to know about this wonderful cure? Regards Third Email Day 3 report. All my symptoms of colitis have disappeared except that my stool formation is still not normal. I have noticed that my hayfever/rhinitis has completely vanished. I have been a hayfever sufferer as long as I was suffering from colitis. I will meet my mother in law on Saturday and I will ask her what type of arthritis she has. P.S : Can I post your website on other IBD message boards. I have suffered for such a long time and I really feel sorry for others who have been suffering from this disease. Not everyone will try this cure but there must be other desperate people like me who are willing to give it a try Regards Forth email: Sorry that I was not in contact with you during the last few days. I was feeling so well that I decided to take a little vacation into the mountains. I would have written to you but unfortunately I did not have access to the internet. I have been literally pigging myself during the last few days. I was making up for all the good foods I denied myself for years. Foods that iritated my colitis. I can eat anything that my heart desires now I am still using the cotton ball. My stools are getting more formed by the day. I have an enormous amount of energy. Another thing that I noticed is that I sleep much more better with the cotton ball and I am not waking up very tired like I previously did. Regards

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i didn’t even finish reading this…..sooooo what you selling? jeffy

Dear Group, .  I and another man both reduced our colitis symptoms to zero just by inserting a part of a cotton ball in one ear. Period.  I wrote about my experience and why it works in the noncommercial website

www.thefetalcure.com – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – and he wrote about his in 4 emails he just sent to me which I have included as part of this post-below. I know that no one believes anything like this unless they experience it so although i am not a physician and cant prescribe this for you I am urging you with colitis and Crohn;s to try it. and let us now what happens, pro or con. If it fails to reduce your symptoms to virtually zero overnight let me know and I can give you a  few lifestyle changes that enhance the effect of the cotton ball  (the other man did not need these to reduce the symptoms of his Ulcerative Colitis to zero but I did).  For now just know that during the time you are near a computer monitor this therpy will have no effect because of the effect of the radiation on our immune system.  Johnson and Johnson brand works best but all brands work so just use what is in your medicine cabinet. It is the pressure of the (natural) cotton ball against this part of the ear where you would put an earplug  that triggers an enormous immune stimulation that creates the effect on colitis  (a synthetic item  will not work) .This response was created by evolution- please see my paper I referred to. above. Whatever you do do not try this during a time when you are using Remicade or any other drug including tylenol (acetaminoqhen)  because this (orobably by increasing circulation) increases the effect of all drugs and could increase their risks or cause overdose.  So please let us know what happens…. Good I am happy to answer any questions. The other man’s email follow:  Please read them-theyre very short. First email: I have read an article written by you about the fetal cure http://www.thefetalcure.com/#top Is this some sort of joke or is it real?. Where did you learn about this technique if it is indeed not a hoax? Should I place a piece of cotton wool in both ears or just one ear? I have been suffering for colitis for more than 20 years and I am prepared to try anything that will free me of this dreaded disease. Second Email. I did the fetal cure last night and the results were amazing. I was suffering a severe flareup with my colitis during the last few weeks. I was having about 20 bowel movements of watery and bloody stools. I placed a cotton ball in my right ear and then sat in the dark for about an hour. I then went to bed with the cotton ball still intact in my ear. I got up this morning and changed the cotton ball and then took a shower with it. I only had one bowel movement today. There was no blood in my stools My stools had a better formation though still watery. My abdominal and back pains were gone. Yes colitis is a autoimmune disease. I would apprecuate it if you could let me know what to avoid with colitis. I would the address of your webside by searching google for a cure for colitis. Someone placed the address of your website on the following message board http://groups.yahoo.com/group/isribd/messages/1 P.S : Can you tell me how you came to know about this wonderful cure? Regards Third Email Day 3 report. All my symptoms of colitis have disappeared except that my stool formation is still not normal. I have noticed that my hayfever/rhinitis has completely vanished. I have been a hayfever sufferer as long as I was suffering from colitis. I will meet my mother in law on Saturday and I will ask her what type of arthritis she has. P.S : Can I post your website on other IBD message boards. I have suffered for such a long time and I really feel sorry for others who have been suffering from this disease. Not everyone will try this cure but there must be other desperate people like me who are willing to give it a try Regards Forth email: Sorry that I was not in contact with you during the last few days. I was feeling so well that I decided to take a little vacation into the mountains. I would have written to you but unfortunately I did not have access to the internet. I have been literally pigging myself during the last few days. I was making up for all the good foods I denied myself for years. Foods that iritated my colitis. I can eat anything that my heart desires now I am still using the cotton ball. My stools are getting more formed by the day. I have an enormous amount of energy. Another thing that I noticed is that I sleep much more better with the cotton ball and I am not waking up very tired like I previously did. Regards

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Dear Group, .  I and another man both reduced our colitis symptoms to zero just by inserting a part of a cotton ball in one ear. Period.  I wrote about my experience and why it works in the noncommercial website www.thefetalcure.com and he wrote about his in 4 emails he just sent to me which I have included as part of this post-below.   I know that no one believes anything like this unless they experience it so although i am not a physician and cant prescribe this for you I am urging you with colitis and Crohn;s to try it. and let us now what happens, pro or con. If it fails to reduce your symptoms to virtually zero overnight let me know and I can give you a  few lifestyle changes that enhance the effect of the cotton ball  (the other man did not need these to reduce the symptoms of his Ulcerative Colitis to zero but I did).  For now just know that during the time you are near a computer monitor this therpy will have no effect because of the effect of the radiation on our immune system.  Johnson and Johnson brand works best but all brands work so just use what is in your medicine cabinet.   It is the pressure of the (natural) cotton ball against this part of the ear where you would put an earplug  that triggers an enormous immune stimulation that creates the effect on colitis  (a synthetic item  will not work) .This response was created by evolution- please see my paper I referred to. above. Whatever you do do not try this during a time when you are using Remicade or any other drug including tylenol (acetaminoqhen)  because this (orobably by increasing circulation) increases the effect of all drugs and could increase their risks or cause overdose.  So please let us know what happens…. Good am happy to answer any questions. The other man’s email follow:  Please read them-theyre very short. First email:

I have read an article written by you about the fetal cure http://www.thefetalcure.com/#top Is this some sort of joke or is it real?. Where did you learn about this technique if it is indeed not a hoax? Should I place a piece of cotton wool in both ears or just one ear? I have been suffering for colitis for more than 20 years and I am prepared to try anything that will free me of this dreaded disease. Second Email.

I did the fetal cure last night and the results were amazing. I was suffering a severe flareup with my colitis during the last few weeks. I was having about 20 bowel movements of watery and bloody stools. I placed a cotton ball in my right ear and then sat in the dark for about an hour. I then went to bed with the cotton ball still intact in my ear. I got up this morning and changed the cotton ball and then took a shower with it. I only had one bowel movement today. There was no blood in my stools My stools had a better formation though still watery. My abdominal and back pains were gone. Yes colitis is a autoimmune disease. I would apprecuate it if you could let me know what to avoid with colitis. I would the address of your webside by searching google for a cure for colitis. Someone placed the address of your website on the following message board http://groups.yahoo.com/group/isribd/messages/1 P.S : Can you tell me how you came to know about this wonderful cure? Regards Third Email

Day 3 report. All my symptoms of colitis have disappeared except that my stool formation is still not normal. I have noticed that my hayfever/rhinitis has completely vanished. I have been a hayfever sufferer as long as I was suffering from colitis. I will meet my mother in law on Saturday and I will ask her what type of arthritis she has. P.S : Can I post your website on other IBD message boards. I have suffered for such a long time and I really feel sorry for others who have been suffering from this disease. Not everyone will try this cure but there must be other desperate people like me who are willing to give it a try Regards Forth email:

Sorry that I was not in contact with you during the last few days. I was feeling so well that I decided to take a little vacation into the mountains. I would have written to you but unfortunately I did not have access to the internet. I have been literally pigging myself during the last few days. I was making up for all the good foods I denied myself for years. Foods that iritated my colitis. I can eat anything that my heart desires now I am still using the cotton ball. My stools are getting more formed by the day. I have an enormous amount of energy. Another thing that I noticed is that I sleep much more better with the cotton ball and I am not waking up very tired like I previously did. Regards

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Dotsie find the manufacturers website and email them to see if you can buy directly from them a lot more of the gas-x and lay the money out that way. It might save you a bunch in the long run.  UM MOM Susan

– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – On gas….when I am having a flare, my doc told me I could take just about as much simethicone (Gas-X) as I needed if it would help. I find that if I take 2 180mg caps (ultra strength) at least 4 times a day, it helps. Sometimes I take even more. The worst part for me at the moment is how expensive it is. I spent about $60 on it last month. Luckily, when I am not having a flare, I only need so much if I get rebellious and eat something that I know doesn’t work for me. I hope you find employment with benefits soon, so you can have some tests done. Tests are really the only way to diagnose your symptomes. It’s good that you can identify that this happens when you are stressed. That might indicate that you have IBS, which is still a big drag, but less dangerous in the long run. Meanwhile, keep on this ng. It is very informative and people are very helpful. Hugs & prayers, Dotsie Every so often, I get something that I can describe as "nervous stomach". If I have an event upcoming that I may be nervous about, I may not mentally feel nervous, but I get diahrea, painfull bloating and gas. This happens about 7 days a year. Once in a while, about 3 times a year I get about a week of similar symptoms, which seems caused by some type of "bug" I may have caught. And when I visited the middle east 5 years ago, I had these symptoms for the whole 2 weeks I was there. I am assuming that their was some bacteria in the food over there that my upset my stomach. In fact almost everytime my digestive system gets upset its usually these symtoms. Rarely do I get acid indigestion, constipation or nausea. Its almost always painfull gas and bloating along with Diareah.  I am currently on a limited healthcare plan due to unemployment, so I need to delay a visit to a doctor for a while. OK, so perhaps I am paranoid if I ask, "Could I have collitis or similar chronic condition". Perhaps all of what I am describing is normal, although none of my friends seem to have this problem as regularly as I described. The things is, Colitis is in my family, on my mother’s side. I am 31 year old male, I am not sure when symptoms for colitis start to show up in life. What really frustrates me is that while Immodium stops the diahrea, Simethicone (anti-gas) really doesn’t stop the painfull gas. Is their something that works better? Is there also some way to prevent this type of painfull gas and other systems from eating food when visting another country? Thanks

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On gas….when I am having a flare, my doc told me I could take just about as much simethicone (Gas-X) as I needed if it would help. I find that if I take 2 180mg caps (ultra strength) at least 4 times a day, it helps. Sometimes I take even more. The worst part for me at the moment is how expensive it is. I spent about $60 on it last month. Luckily, when I am not having a flare, I only need so much if I get rebellious and eat something that I know doesn’t work for me. I hope you find employment with benefits soon, so you can have some tests done. Tests are really the only way to diagnose your symptomes. It’s good that you can identify that this happens when you are stressed. That might indicate that you have IBS, which is still a big drag, but less dangerous in the long run. Meanwhile, keep on this ng. It is very informative and people are very helpful. Hugs & prayers, Dotsie – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Every so often, I get something that I can describe as "nervous stomach". If I have an event upcoming that I may be nervous about, I may not mentally feel nervous, but I get diahrea, painfull bloating and gas. This happens about 7 days a year. Once in a while, about 3 times a year I get about a week of similar symptoms, which seems caused by some type of "bug" I may have caught. And when I visited the middle east 5 years ago, I had these symptoms for the whole 2 weeks I was there. I am assuming that their was some bacteria in the food over there that my upset my stomach. In fact almost everytime my digestive system gets upset its usually these symtoms. Rarely do I get acid indigestion, constipation or nausea. Its almost always painfull gas and bloating along with Diareah.  I am currently on a limited healthcare plan due to unemployment, so I need to delay a visit to a doctor for a while. OK, so perhaps I am paranoid if I ask, "Could I have collitis or similar chronic condition". Perhaps all of what I am describing is normal, although none of my friends seem to have this problem as regularly as I described. The things is, Colitis is in my family, on my mother’s side. I am 31 year old male, I am not sure when symptoms for colitis start to show up in life. What really frustrates me is that while Immodium stops the diahrea, Simethicone (anti-gas) really doesn’t stop the painfull gas. Is their something that works better? Is there also some way to prevent this type of painfull gas and other systems from eating food when visting another country? Thanks

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- Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Every so often, I get something that I can describe as "nervous stomach". If I have an event upcoming that I may be nervous about, I may not mentally feel nervous, but I get diahrea, painfull bloating and gas. This happens about 7 days a year. Once in a while, about 3 times a year I get about a week of similar symptoms, which seems caused by some type of "bug" I may have caught. And when I visited the middle east 5 years ago, I had these symptoms for the whole 2 weeks I was there. I am assuming that their was some bacteria in the food over there that my upset my stomach. In fact almost everytime my digestive system gets upset its usually these symtoms. Rarely do I get acid indigestion, constipation or nausea. Its almost always painfull gas and bloating along with Diareah.  I am currently on a limited healthcare plan due to unemployment, so I need to delay a visit to a doctor for a while. OK, so perhaps I am paranoid if I ask, "Could I have collitis or similar chronic condition". Perhaps all of what I am describing is normal, although none of my friends seem to have this problem as regularly as I described. The things is, Colitis is in my family, on my mother’s side. I am 31 year old male, I am not sure when symptoms for colitis start to show up in life. What really frustrates me is that while Immodium stops the diahrea, Simethicone (anti-gas) really doesn’t stop the painfull gas. Is their something that works better? Is there also some way to prevent this type of painfull gas and other systems from eating food when visting another country? Thanks

hi well..it could be ibd..or it could be irritable bowel syndrom which is a "pain in the ass’ but not anything like this no you are not paranoid..ulcerative colitis and crohns are genetic to a point..you are at a very typical age for it to really appear..and it sounds as if these may be early symptoms..or not..u could have a simple "funny tummy" that will do well with simple stuff…bleeding, fever, arthritis like pains in joints are some major signs of uc and crohns..but they have to be dx’d with tests in a hospital..a colonoscopy will tell the truth..sometimes other tests show it..but for me at least..nothing ever showed on a gi series, xrays or even sigmoid…it was just high enough up <g the gas u can treat with over the counter gas stuff…u can figure out what food bother u and avoid them..and use what u have been using..for now..until u get better health coverage..but IF u start to bleed..GO GO GO and get help from a gi..thru work…thru county or state health care..something..cos ibd(inflammatory bowel disease which is the collective name for uc and crohns) can actually be fatal if its just left unchecked..(well so can most things) u may have it ..u may not…no one here can tell u ..but i think u are smart to question it..an idea for you ..start a little journal of your daily symptoms and activities and what u ate etc..see patterns ..it helps u ..but its really helpful for the doctor..my first gi..had me do that for him for a month..it helped him to help me a lot.. and good luck ..i hope u dont have ibd..but if u do..well u are in some great company<g US annie

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Hi, Sounds like IBS to me although many ppl with IBD have these symptoms as well.  If you have inflammation then you may have IBD. You could try some activated charcoal to help with the gas. It’s supposed to be pretty effective but can constipate you. If you do try, start low then build up. Maybe you also want try some probiotics, that might do some good. But some also have a negative reaction to them.

– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – This could be IBD and (Can’t believe I am saying this) or IBS.  Without the tests to determine there is no way of knowing.  To help with the bloating and cramps until you can get to a gi try midol.  It has the ingredients of rx Bentyl or dicyclomine (sp?) in it just a real lowered dose compared to the rx.  It along with the highest dose, believe 166mg) of otc phayzeme might give you some relief.  That’s the only thing I think of.  Of course monitor your eating to see what you are consuming could be causing the problems also.  Um MOM Susan Every so often, I get something that I can describe as "nervous stomach". If I have an event upcoming that I may be nervous about, I may not mentally feel nervous, but I get diahrea, painfull bloating and gas. This happens about 7 days a year. Once in a while, about 3 times a year I get about a week of similar symptoms, which seems caused by some type of "bug" I may have caught. And when I visited the middle east 5 years ago, I had these symptoms for the whole 2 weeks I was there. I am assuming that their was some bacteria in the food over there that my upset my stomach. In fact almost everytime my digestive system gets upset its usually these symtoms. Rarely do I get acid indigestion, constipation or nausea. Its almost always painfull gas and bloating along with Diareah.  I am currently on a limited healthcare plan due to unemployment, so I need to delay a visit to a doctor for a while. OK, so perhaps I am paranoid if I ask, "Could I have collitis or similar chronic condition". Perhaps all of what I am describing is normal, although none of my friends seem to have this problem as regularly as I described. The things is, Colitis is in my family, on my mother’s side. I am 31 year old male, I am not sure when symptoms for colitis start to show up in life. What really frustrates me is that while Immodium stops the diahrea, Simethicone (anti-gas) really doesn’t stop the painfull gas. Is their something that works better? Is there also some way to prevent this type of painfull gas and other systems from eating food when visting another country? Thanks

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your symptoms sound a lot like mine when I was a child in Holland and was not diagnosed or even checked out.  If I knew some fun thing was happening in 7 days you could guarantee that I would be sick with abdominal pain, diarrhea and vomiting. My parents stopped telling me when we were going somewhere until the day we went.  This helped some, because I could get through about half of the fun before getting ill. Unfortunately testing is the only way to be sure and the sooner the better so you can start taking charge. Definitely sound like IBS or IBD of some sort.  I was not diagnosed till I was 21 years of age after the birth of my daughter when symptoms went nutso. In Holland they new of none of these things and thought I was just a nervous child, and had diphtheria at 1 year of age.  Felt I had been weakened by that. Connie Crohn’s ‘71

– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Every so often, I get something that I can describe as "nervous stomach". If I have an event upcoming that I may be nervous about, I may not mentally feel nervous, but I get diahrea, painfull bloating and gas. This happens about 7 days a year. Once in a while, about 3 times a year I get about a week of similar symptoms, which seems caused by some type of "bug" I may have caught. And when I visited the middle east 5 years ago, I had these symptoms for the whole 2 weeks I was there. I am assuming that their was some bacteria in the food over there that my upset my stomach. In fact almost everytime my digestive system gets upset its usually these symtoms. Rarely do I get acid indigestion, constipation or nausea. Its almost always painfull gas and bloating along with Diareah.  I am currently on a limited healthcare plan due to unemployment, so I need to delay a visit to a doctor for a while. OK, so perhaps I am paranoid if I ask, "Could I have collitis or similar chronic condition". Perhaps all of what I am describing is normal, although none of my friends seem to have this problem as regularly as I described. The things is, Colitis is in my family, on my mother’s side. I am 31 year old male, I am not sure when symptoms for colitis start to show up in life. What really frustrates me is that while Immodium stops the diahrea, Simethicone (anti-gas) really doesn’t stop the painfull gas. Is their something that works better? Is there also some way to prevent this type of painfull gas and other systems from eating food when visting another country? Thanks

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This could be IBD and (Can’t believe I am saying this) or IBS.  Without the tests to determine there is no way of knowing.  To help with the bloating and cramps until you can get to a gi try midol.  It has the ingredients of rx Bentyl or dicyclomine (sp?) in it just a real lowered dose compared to the rx.  It along with the highest dose, believe 166mg) of otc phayzeme might give you some relief.  That’s the only thing I think of.  Of course monitor your eating to see what you are consuming could be causing the problems also.  Um MOM Susan

– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Every so often, I get something that I can describe as "nervous stomach". If I have an event upcoming that I may be nervous about, I may not mentally feel nervous, but I get diahrea, painfull bloating and gas. This happens about 7 days a year. Once in a while, about 3 times a year I get about a week of similar symptoms, which seems caused by some type of "bug" I may have caught. And when I visited the middle east 5 years ago, I had these symptoms for the whole 2 weeks I was there. I am assuming that their was some bacteria in the food over there that my upset my stomach. In fact almost everytime my digestive system gets upset its usually these symtoms. Rarely do I get acid indigestion, constipation or nausea. Its almost always painfull gas and bloating along with Diareah.  I am currently on a limited healthcare plan due to unemployment, so I need to delay a visit to a doctor for a while. OK, so perhaps I am paranoid if I ask, "Could I have collitis or similar chronic condition". Perhaps all of what I am describing is normal, although none of my friends seem to have this problem as regularly as I described. The things is, Colitis is in my family, on my mother’s side. I am 31 year old male, I am not sure when symptoms for colitis start to show up in life. What really frustrates me is that while Immodium stops the diahrea, Simethicone (anti-gas) really doesn’t stop the painfull gas. Is their something that works better? Is there also some way to prevent this type of painfull gas and other systems from eating food when visting another country? Thanks

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Every so often, I get something that I can describe as "nervous stomach". If I have an event upcoming that I may be nervous about, I may not mentally feel nervous, but I get diahrea, painfull bloating and gas. This happens about 7 days a year. Once in a while, about 3 times a year I get about a week of similar symptoms, which seems caused by some type of "bug" I may have caught. And when I visited the middle east 5 years ago, I had these symptoms for the whole 2 weeks I was there. I am assuming that their was some bacteria in the food over there that my upset my stomach. In fact almost everytime my digestive system gets upset its usually these symtoms. Rarely do I get acid indigestion, constipation or nausea. Its almost always painfull gas and bloating along with Diareah.  I am currently on a limited healthcare plan due to unemployment, so I need to delay a visit to a doctor for a while. OK, so perhaps I am paranoid if I ask, "Could I have collitis or similar chronic condition". Perhaps all of what I am describing is normal, although none of my friends seem to have this problem as regularly as I described. The things is, Colitis is in my family, on my mother’s side. I am 31 year old male, I am not sure when symptoms for colitis start to show up in life. What really frustrates me is that while Immodium stops the diahrea, Simethicone (anti-gas) really doesn’t stop the painfull gas. Is their something that works better? Is there also some way to prevent this type of painfull gas and other systems from eating food when visting another country? Thanks

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After recovering from a bout of NSAID induced colitis in June, I am now suffering what my doc thinks is tenesmus. I get excruciating pain into my rectum and back about 30 – 45 minutes before having a bowel movement. My doc has prescribed Salofalk suppositories once daily, to see if it will help. Does anyone else have experience with this problem? Terri

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i used to get that – i had proctitis at the time. my doc put me on rowasa suppositories which helped a little, but it went away after a few months (either by itself or because of the rowasa, you decide.). sometimes shifting position helped (eg, if i was sitting, lying down). nadia.

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Well, I went to the doctor today.  Apparently I have a mild urinary tract infection.  They’ve given me Cipro for 7 days, so hopefully I’ll start feeling better soon.  Thanks for all your sympathy! Brian – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text –     This is the first time I’ve posted to this newsgroup, so go easy on me!:)  I was diagnosed with UC about a year and a half ago.  I’ve been on Asacol since then, and I’ve recently been put on Prednisone to help control a difficult flare.  We had tried Hydrocortisone enemas at first, but they really weren’t doing much of anything for the cramps that developed in my midsection and right side (basically I was getting worse).  I’ve been on 40/mg of Pred a day (4 days so far), and it has done wonders with the cramps.  My biggest difficulty right now is with tenesmus (other than the basic symptoms of colitis, which are relatively tolerable).  I’m experiencing rectal pain when relieving myself, which I think has led to urinary tenesmus as well…I’m not able to bear down and urinate as much as I’d like to at times, so that leaves my bladder feeling full.  This is starting to get maddening!  I’m having difficulty concentrating on anything else…I went back to work today for the first time in a week and a half, and subsequently left a few hours early so I could come home and suffer in silence.  We’re going to do a urinalysis on Monday, to determine if it’s a bladder infection…In the meantime, can anyone offer any advice or cures! Thanks very much! Brian

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Hi Rebecca, I’ve been feeling much better the past couple of days, must be your positive thinking! – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -You know Sue — that is very interesting because now that I am off of Asacol, I don’t have tenesmus nearly as much! Rebecca who hopes Sue is feeling really good this weekend. Hi Brian, I *think* Asacol can cause urinary hesitancy, but I’m not positive – check out the package insert that comes with the medicine. Hello all!    This is the first time I’ve posted to this newsgroup, so go easy on me!:)  I was diagnosed with UC about a year and a half ago.  I’ve been on Asacol since then, and I’ve recently been put on Prednisone to help control a difficult flare.  We had tried Hydrocortisone enemas at first, but they really weren’t doing much of anything for the cramps that developed in my midsection and right side (basically I was getting worse).  I’ve been on 40/mg of Pred a day (4 days so far), and it has done wonders with the cramps.  My biggest difficulty right now is with tenesmus (other than the basic symptoms of colitis, which are relatively tolerable).  I’m experiencing rectal pain when relieving myself, which I think has led to urinary tenesmus as well…I’m not able to bear down and urinate as much as I’d like to at times, so that leaves my bladder feeling full.  This is starting to get maddening!  I’m having difficulty concentrating on anything else…I went back to work today for the first time in a week and a half, and subsequently left a few hours early so I could come home and suffer in silence.  We’re going to do a urinalysis on Monday, to determine if it’s a bladder infection…In the meantime, can anyone offer any advice or cures! Thanks very much! Brian

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You know Sue — that is very interesting because now that I am off of Asacol, I don’t have tenesmus nearly as much! Rebecca who hopes Sue is feeling really good this weekend. – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Hi Brian, I *think* Asacol can cause urinary hesitancy, but I’m not positive – check out the package insert that comes with the medicine. Hello all!    This is the first time I’ve posted to this newsgroup, so go easy on me!:)  I was diagnosed with UC about a year and a half ago.  I’ve been on Asacol since then, and I’ve recently been put on Prednisone to help control a difficult flare.  We had tried Hydrocortisone enemas at first, but they really weren’t doing much of anything for the cramps that developed in my midsection and right side (basically I was getting worse).  I’ve been on 40/mg of Pred a day (4 days so far), and it has done wonders with the cramps.  My biggest difficulty right now is with tenesmus (other than the basic symptoms of colitis, which are relatively tolerable).  I’m experiencing rectal pain when relieving myself, which I think has led to urinary tenesmus as well…I’m not able to bear down and urinate as much as I’d like to at times, so that leaves my bladder feeling full.  This is starting to get maddening!  I’m having difficulty concentrating on anything else…I went back to work today for the first time in a week and a half, and subsequently left a few hours early so I could come home and suffer in silence.  We’re going to do a urinalysis on Monday, to determine if it’s a bladder infection…In the meantime, can anyone offer any advice or cures! Thanks very much! Brian

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Hi Brian, I *think* Asacol can cause urinary hesitancy, but I’m not positive – check out the package insert that comes with the medicine. – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -Hello all!    This is the first time I’ve posted to this newsgroup, so go easy on me!:)  I was diagnosed with UC about a year and a half ago.  I’ve been on Asacol since then, and I’ve recently been put on Prednisone to help control a difficult flare.  We had tried Hydrocortisone enemas at first, but they really weren’t doing much of anything for the cramps that developed in my midsection and right side (basically I was getting worse).  I’ve been on 40/mg of Pred a day (4 days so far), and it has done wonders with the cramps.  My biggest difficulty right now is with tenesmus (other than the basic symptoms of colitis, which are relatively tolerable).  I’m experiencing rectal pain when relieving myself, which I think has led to urinary tenesmus as well…I’m not able to bear down and urinate as much as I’d like to at times, so that leaves my bladder feeling full.  This is starting to get maddening!  I’m having difficulty concentrating on anything else…I went back to work today for the first time in a week and a half, and subsequently left a few hours early so I could come home and suffer in silence.  We’re going to do a urinalysis on Monday, to determine if it’s a bladder infection…In the meantime, can anyone offer any advice or cures! Thanks very much! Brian

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I find that if my pain is controlled I dont have tenesmus as much…also a spasm reliever can help               eMi

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Brian, They have anti-spasmotic medication both in oral and suppository form.  It is supposed to help.  I can’t remember the name, though.  I have the peeing thing, too.  I went to a urologist thinking I had prostatitis!  I’m glad to see it isn’t just me.  The cramps suck. Thanks, Mike — To reply via email remove the (SPAM_BLOCKER) from my email address: – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Hello all!    This is the first time I’ve posted to this newsgroup, so go easy on me!:)  I was diagnosed with UC about a year and a half ago.  I’ve been on Asacol since then, and I’ve recently been put on Prednisone to help control a difficult flare.  We had tried Hydrocortisone enemas at first, but they really weren’t doing much of anything for the cramps that developed in my midsection and right side (basically I was getting worse).  I’ve been on 40/mg of Pred a day (4 days so far), and it has done wonders with the cramps.  My biggest difficulty right now is with tenesmus (other than the basic symptoms of colitis, which are relatively tolerable).  I’m experiencing rectal pain when relieving myself, which I think has led to urinary tenesmus as well…I’m not able to bear down and urinate as much as I’d like to at times, so that leaves my bladder feeling full.  This is starting to get maddening!  I’m having difficulty concentrating on anything else…I went back to work today for the first time in a week and a half, and subsequently left a few hours early so I could come home and suffer in silence.  We’re going to do a urinalysis on Monday, to determine if it’s a bladder infection…In the meantime, can anyone offer any advice or cures! Thanks very much! Brian

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Hi Brian (welcome!): The only thing I can think of that might help is to be sure you are wiping very well (so there is no residue that can irritate the already irritated anus). I have found the flushable aloe wipes or Tucks pads feel very good if you hold them on for a minute or so — helps to stop the "urge" feeling and helps with the pain. It won’t help with the pain while *going* but if you have any after pain — it does seem to help with that. I also us A & D ointment (LOTS of it) to help create sort of a barrier against irritation. I hope this helps some — tenesmus is a pain in the *** — perhaps talk to your GI doc too — there might be something you can take orally as well. Rebecca who hopes she was easy on Brian *this* time <G

– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Hello all!     This is the first time I’ve posted to this newsgroup, so go easy on me!:)  I was diagnosed with UC about a year and a half ago.  I’ve been on Asacol since then, and I’ve recently been put on Prednisone to help control a difficult flare.  We had tried Hydrocortisone enemas at first, but they really weren’t doing much of anything for the cramps that developed in my midsection and right side (basically I was getting worse).  I’ve been on 40/mg of Pred a day (4 days so far), and it has done wonders with the cramps.  My biggest difficulty right now is with tenesmus (other than the basic symptoms of colitis, which are relatively tolerable).  I’m experiencing rectal pain when relieving myself, which I think has led to urinary tenesmus as well…I’m not able to bear down and urinate as much as I’d like to at times, so that leaves my bladder feeling full.  This is starting to get maddening!  I’m having difficulty concentrating on anything else…I went back to work today for the first time in a week and a half, and subsequently left a few hours early so I could come home and suffer in silence.  We’re going to do a urinalysis on Monday, to determine if it’s a bladder infection…In the meantime, can anyone offer any advice or cures! Thanks very much! Brian

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Hello all!     This is the first time I’ve posted to this newsgroup, so go easy on me!:)  I was diagnosed with UC about a year and a half ago.  I’ve been on Asacol since then, and I’ve recently been put on Prednisone to help control a difficult flare.  We had tried Hydrocortisone enemas at first, but they really weren’t doing much of anything for the cramps that developed in my midsection and right side (basically I was getting worse).  I’ve been on 40/mg of Pred a day (4 days so far), and it has done wonders with the cramps.  My biggest difficulty right now is with tenesmus (other than the basic symptoms of colitis, which are relatively tolerable).  I’m experiencing rectal pain when relieving myself, which I think has led to urinary tenesmus as well…I’m not able to bear down and urinate as much as I’d like to at times, so that leaves my bladder feeling full.  This is starting to get maddening!  I’m having difficulty concentrating on anything else…I went back to work today for the first time in a week and a half, and subsequently left a few hours early so I could come home and suffer in silence.  We’re going to do a urinalysis on Monday, to determine if it’s a bladder infection…In the meantime, can anyone offer any advice or cures! Thanks very much! Brian

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Hello David.. Hmmm your actually considering taking the prep on ur own…without being forced to??…WOW..You a brave guy….. maybe u could hire urself out to take the prep for unwilling patients…..hehehehe…Could be a lucrative buisness venture!!…If only it were that simple.. Take care and good luck Doug " – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – This is also my first e-mail to this group, and I really liked your message! It has certainly encouraged me to pipe in after about three months of lurking.  And I also must say your observation is the same as mine; people here are very considerate and helpful…so thanks from me too.  Now as for my message- I also went through the same ‘procedure’ as you, but was never told about the prep for colonoscopy potentially clearing up symptoms of colitis.  For over three years I was completely dumbstruck as to why I was having on and off mild bleeding spells over a four year period (no other symptoms such as aches, pains, etc.) yet right after I had the exploratory colonoscopy (where some minor colitis was found) my symptoms went completely away!  I was symptom free for two and a half years where I ate everything I used to eat, and drank everything I used to.  Unfortunately, I also became very lazy about taking Asacol (often I wouldn’t even take one a day).  To my frustration, out of the blue three months ago, the same symptoms that I had not had for over such a long period of time came back.  When I went to my doctor two months ago and told him that I thought it was the prep that helped me, he said he had never heard of such a thing. Thus, I have printed out your message and am going to take it to him next week and request a prescription for the prep stuff to see what happens.  Does anyone remember the name of this stuff??  It comes in a large container, where you add water to the mix. I am also trying to change my diet a bit; but its hard since I am very fit, have never lost any weight or hair and have never really had major discomfort from the colitis other than the sight of small streaks of blood in my stool.  I did get two or three nasty stomach aches that lasted several days this go around.  Anyone have some insight as to what these are? There was nothing in particular I ate that would have caused my tummy to revolt, so any thoughts would be much appreciated. Good luck! David

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Tomato sauce and sausages, anything with preservatives in it sets me off completely!! Try a very light diet for a couple of days if this happens again. I usually give my guts a break by eating heaps of toasted plain bread with maybe a dash of butter, in small quantities the whole day. It has helped me. Maybe it’ll work for you too. Take care! Keep in touch! Newbie, Pavitar Singapore

– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – First of all, I just wanted to say hi to everyone and say that I’ve been reading this group for about a month and I love how supportive everyone is. It’s rare to see that in newsgroups it seems. Anyway … I haven’t been yet diagnosed with anything, but I wanted to share my experience thus far and see if any of you might have some suggestions. I’ve had diarrhea on a fairly frequent basis (1-2 times a week) for approx. three years now. I’ve mentioned it to several doctors and they all wrote it off as irritable bowel syndrome and didn’t take things further. Until, of course, I passed some blood with mucus. I was really freaked and saw a doctor on duty since my primary care physician wasn’t available. This doctor referred me to a surgeon. When I saw the new doctor, he said he wanted to do a colonoscopy. I had that done about three weeks ago. My bowel movements were different after the procedure. Whereas for the last three years the fecal matter was a tan color, it was now the regular dark brown and it was always the "normal" consistency (ie no diarrhea). I mentioned this to the doctor when I went for my followup and he said that the prep for the colonoscopy could have eliminated my problem. He said they see that happen in about 30% of people. I was pretty happy that it might be the case for me. Oh yes, the doctor also said they did a biopsy of my colon, as well as the first few centimeters (or was it millimeters?) of my small bowel, and they couldn’t find any bacteria and everything looked normal, except some mucus at the opening of the small bowel. He mentioned that if the diarrhea returns, I was going to be referred to a gastroentologist (sp – sorry, I have no clue how to spell it) and they would do a procedure where they insert a scope in my mouth and down into my small bowel. I wasn’t too worried at that point because all my problems had disappeared. However, the other day I ate some veal parmisean (first time in contact with tomato sauce which I’m starting to think is one of the triggers) and I got really bad pain like diarrhea but I only passed gas. I’ve had these pains on and off for two days now and last night I had really loose stools but it was still a darker color. However, the "burning" sensation in my stomach has returned after a very nice three week absence. Does anyone know why this happened? I know you’re not doctors but maybe someone has had a similar experience. I’m pretty disheartened now to think that I will have to go through even more tests before getting this under control. I realize too that my situation is not nearly as bad as the many cases I’ve read about here, and my heart goes out to all of you … these problems are a real pain, and truly interfere with one’s life. Thanks in advance for any help you can provide. — travesty "however much i push it down, it’s never enough"

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David, Welcome to the NG.  I have Crohn’s, so I can’t really answer your questions about colitis, but wanted to tell you that there are a lot of great people here who have a lot of information.  You will learn a lot from this NG, and will get a lot of support, as well as some good laughs.  Welcome. Trish. – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Hi travesty- This is also my first e-mail to this group, and I really liked your message! It has certainly encouraged me to pipe in after about three months of lurking.  And I also must say your observation is the same as mine; people here are very considerate and helpful…so thanks from me too.  Now as for my message- I also went through the same ‘procedure’ as you, but was never told about the prep for colonoscopy potentially clearing up symptoms of colitis.  For over three years I was completely dumbstruck as to why I was having on and off mild bleeding spells over a four year period (no other symptoms such as aches, pains, etc.) yet right after I had the exploratory colonoscopy (where some minor colitis was found) my symptoms went completely away!  I was symptom free for two and a half years where I ate everything I used to eat, and drank everything I used to.  Unfortunately, I also became very lazy about taking Asacol (often I wouldn’t even take one a day).  To my frustration, out of the blue three months ago, the same symptoms that I had not had for over such a long period of time came back.  When I went to my doctor two months ago and told him that I thought it was the prep that helped me, he said he had never heard of such a thing. Thus, I have printed out your message and am going to take it to him next week and request a prescription for the prep stuff to see what happens.  Does anyone remember the name of this stuff??  It comes in a large container, where you add water to the mix. I am also trying to change my diet a bit; but its hard since I am very fit, have never lost any weight or hair and have never really had major discomfort from the colitis other than the sight of small streaks of blood in my stool.  I did get two or three nasty stomach aches that lasted several days this go around.  Anyone have some insight as to what these are?  There was nothing in particular I ate that would have caused my tummy to revolt, so any thoughts would be much appreciated. Good luck! David  thought I was nuts to request the ‘clearing out’ fluid for First of all, I just wanted to say hi to everyone and say that I’ve been reading this group for about a month and I love how supportive everyone is. It’s rare to see that in newsgroups it seems. Anyway … I haven’t been yet diagnosed with anything, but I wanted to share my experience thus far and see if any of you might have some suggestions. I’ve had diarrhea on a fairly frequent basis (1-2 times a week) for approx. three years now. I’ve mentioned it to several doctors and they all wrote it off as irritable bowel syndrome and didn’t take things further. Until, of course, I passed some blood with mucus. I was really freaked and saw a doctor on duty since my primary care physician wasn’t available. This doctor referred me to a surgeon. When I saw the new doctor, he said he wanted to do a colonoscopy. I had that done about three weeks ago. My bowel movements were different after the procedure. Whereas for the last three years the fecal matter was a tan color, it was now the regular dark brown and it was always the "normal" consistency (ie no diarrhea). I mentioned this to the doctor when I went for my followup and he said that the prep for the colonoscopy could have eliminated my problem. He said they see that happen in about 30% of people. I was pretty happy that it might be the case for me. Oh yes, the doctor also said they did a biopsy of my colon, as well as the first few centimeters (or was it millimeters?) of my small bowel, and they couldn’t find any bacteria and everything looked normal, except some mucus at the opening of the small bowel. He mentioned that if the diarrhea returns, I was going to be referred to a gastroentologist (sp – sorry, I have no clue how to spell it) and they would do a procedure where they insert a scope in my mouth and down into my small bowel. I wasn’t too worried at that point because all my problems had disappeared. However, the other day I ate some veal parmisean (first time in contact with tomato sauce which I’m starting to think is one of the triggers) and I got really bad pain like diarrhea but I only passed gas. I’ve had these pains on and off for two days now and last night I had really loose stools but it was still a darker color. However, the "burning" sensation in my stomach has returned after a very nice three week absence. Does anyone know why this happened? I know you’re not doctors but maybe someone has had a similar experience. I’m pretty disheartened now to think that I will have to go through even more tests before getting this under control. I realize too that my situation is not nearly as bad as the many cases I’ve read about here, and my heart goes out to all of you … these problems are a real pain, and truly interfere with one’s life. Thanks in advance for any help you can provide. — travesty "however much i push it down, it’s never enough"

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I would get a referral to a good gastroenterologist. You could have anything from diverticulitis or ulcerative proctitis  to Crohns Disease, or a half dozen things in between. Treatments can vary from antibiotics to steroids. I’ll also warn you that a definitive diagnosis is often difficult to come by — even from an experienced gastroenterologist. But a GI is more apt to figure it out than anyone else.

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Hi travesty- This is also my first e-mail to this group, and I really liked your message! It has certainly encouraged me to pipe in after about three months of lurking.  And I also must say your observation is the same as mine; people here are very considerate and helpful…so thanks from me too.  Now as for my message- I also went through the same ‘procedure’ as you, but was never told about the prep for colonoscopy potentially clearing up symptoms of colitis.  For over three years I was completely dumbstruck as to why I was having on and off mild bleeding spells over a four year period (no other symptoms such as aches, pains, etc.) yet right after I had the exploratory colonoscopy (where some minor colitis was found) my symptoms went completely away!  I was symptom free for two and a half years where I ate everything I used to eat, and drank everything I used to.  Unfortunately, I also became very lazy about taking Asacol (often I wouldn’t even take one a day).  To my frustration, out of the blue three months ago, the same symptoms that I had not had for over such a long period of time came back.  When I went to my doctor two months ago and told him that I thought it was the prep that helped me, he said he had never heard of such a thing. Thus, I have printed out your message and am going to take it to him next week and request a prescription for the prep stuff to see what happens.  Does anyone remember the name of this stuff??  It comes in a large container, where you add water to the mix. I am also trying to change my diet a bit; but its hard since I am very fit, have never lost any weight or hair and have never really had major discomfort from the colitis other than the sight of small streaks of blood in my stool.  I did get two or three nasty stomach aches that lasted several days this go around.  Anyone have some insight as to what these are?  There was nothing in particular I ate that would have caused my tummy to revolt, so any thoughts would be much appreciated. Good luck! David  thought I was nuts to request the ‘clearing out’ fluid for

– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – First of all, I just wanted to say hi to everyone and say that I’ve been reading this group for about a month and I love how supportive everyone is. It’s rare to see that in newsgroups it seems. Anyway … I haven’t been yet diagnosed with anything, but I wanted to share my experience thus far and see if any of you might have some suggestions. I’ve had diarrhea on a fairly frequent basis (1-2 times a week) for approx. three years now. I’ve mentioned it to several doctors and they all wrote it off as irritable bowel syndrome and didn’t take things further. Until, of course, I passed some blood with mucus. I was really freaked and saw a doctor on duty since my primary care physician wasn’t available. This doctor referred me to a surgeon. When I saw the new doctor, he said he wanted to do a colonoscopy. I had that done about three weeks ago. My bowel movements were different after the procedure. Whereas for the last three years the fecal matter was a tan color, it was now the regular dark brown and it was always the "normal" consistency (ie no diarrhea). I mentioned this to the doctor when I went for my followup and he said that the prep for the colonoscopy could have eliminated my problem. He said they see that happen in about 30% of people. I was pretty happy that it might be the case for me. Oh yes, the doctor also said they did a biopsy of my colon, as well as the first few centimeters (or was it millimeters?) of my small bowel, and they couldn’t find any bacteria and everything looked normal, except some mucus at the opening of the small bowel. He mentioned that if the diarrhea returns, I was going to be referred to a gastroentologist (sp – sorry, I have no clue how to spell it) and they would do a procedure where they insert a scope in my mouth and down into my small bowel. I wasn’t too worried at that point because all my problems had disappeared. However, the other day I ate some veal parmisean (first time in contact with tomato sauce which I’m starting to think is one of the triggers) and I got really bad pain like diarrhea but I only passed gas. I’ve had these pains on and off for two days now and last night I had really loose stools but it was still a darker color. However, the "burning" sensation in my stomach has returned after a very nice three week absence. Does anyone know why this happened? I know you’re not doctors but maybe someone has had a similar experience. I’m pretty disheartened now to think that I will have to go through even more tests before getting this under control. I realize too that my situation is not nearly as bad as the many cases I’ve read about here, and my heart goes out to all of you … these problems are a real pain, and truly interfere with one’s life. Thanks in advance for any help you can provide. — travesty "however much i push it down, it’s never enough"

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I would like to hear from some one about colitis. I have been using oral supression and Pavlovian training to control or cure my glomular nephritis. It has worked to my amazement, but as soon  as the kidney symptoms left, I got colitis. Is this normal for autoimmune disease, is it like a drug addict who cures one addiction and simply gets another? So far I have kept the colitis pain down to only bearable with avoidance of thinking hostile thoughts and not watching hostile programs on TV. I am satisfied with

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Andrea writes; I would like to hear from some one about colitis. I have been using oral supression and Pavlovian training to control or cure my glomular nephritis. It has worked to my amazement, but as soon  as the kidney symptoms left, I got colitis. Is this normal for autoimmune disease, is it like a drug addict who cures one addiction and simply gets another? So far I have kept the colitis pain down to only bearable with avoidance of thinking hostile thoughts and not watching hostile programs on TV. I am satisfied with Andrea: I’m no doctor but all the research that I have done on colitis indicates that there is no known cause or cure (possibly until just recently). If you have been unforunate like so many of us, you just got it. There are several different types as well and you didn’t state which you had. Ulcerative colitis is the worst. There are several drugs that do help suppress it. You just have to work with your doctor to find something that works for you. I’ve been on sulfa drugs for most of the duration and just recently switched to Asocal. You can find out more info on Colitis through the WEB. Type in Colitis into your search engine. Good Luck.

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hi i am 44 and have had ulcertive colitis since 20 years old. i am in pretty good health, still have colon and never any surgery and on no meds for many years. my question is anybody else had it this long and doing well with no surgery. my doctor would like to cut out my colon but reading this group sounds like it could be more trouble than its worth lot of people say how bad they feel and glade to have it out. just woundering if i am running on borrowed time or not everyone with this dieases developes colon cancer. any comments would be helpful with desisions down the road. i go for another colon check 4-6-98 and hope it is still allright  

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hi i am 44 and have had ulcertive colitis since 20 years old. i am in pretty good health, still have colon and never any surgery and on no meds for many years. my question is anybody else had it this long and doing well with no surgery. my doctor would like to cut out my colon

If there are no signs of cancer (i.e., dysplasia), then why would he want to cut it out? Time enough to do it if necessary. I don’t see why he would want to cut out a (relatively) healthy colon. Just keep having it checked regularly. I’ve only gone 10 years so far and still have my colon, my last colonoscopy showed no signs of dysplasia (yes!!), so I’m hoping to hang onto it as long as possible. Be well, Hadass — National Research Council of Canada Phone: (204) 984 – 4535 Institute for Biodiagnostics        Fax:   (204) 984 – 7036 435 Ellice Avenue, Winnipeg,MB,R3B 1Y6 http://www.ibd.nrc.ca/~eviatar   Obligatory disclaimer: NRC wouldn’t dream of saying a thing like that.

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I have had UC for 14 years and no question of cuts so far. I think it depends on what state your system is in, everyone is different and I believe the condition can subside into virtually permanent remission after a time as you get older, whereas with others it can get worse, and cuts might be preferred. Best wishes Colin Dalziel Hamilton, Scotland, UK

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Belladonna comes from deadly nightshade or atropa belladonna.  Digitalis (sorry, not for angina) is from foxglove or digitalis purpurea. Jan…  

Sorry, you obviously know herbs better than I, although I thought digitalis was used for angina or had been before the development of some of the newer drugs. Anyway, the point I was trying to make is that even some poisons are useful when prepared properly and used as directed by a doctor.Or someone who actually knows what he’s doing with some of the less dangerous herbs; which means you should listen to me about the use of Oregano, Basil and Cilantro! He he he! love, steve

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Thank you all for your caring replies. The product that I wanted info on is a very concentrated freeze dried form of aloe vera called AMP Molo-Cure Platinum from Superclean Distributors – www.nicrohosting.com/amp/other.htm The other main herb that Daniel is taking is ’slippery elm’ Again, thanks al Rob

Let’s try again!! www.microhosting.com/amp/other.htm Sorry, Rob Regarding Aloe Vera plant.  The black oily substance at the base of each leaf is a powerful laxitive. Be careful. Share what you know. Learn what you don’t.

Share what you know. Learn what you don’t.

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Thank you all for your caring replies. The product that I wanted info on is a very concentrated freeze dried form of aloe vera called AMP Molo-Cure Platinum from Superclean Distributors – www.nicrohosting.com/amp/other.htm The other main herb that Daniel is taking is ’slippery elm’ Again, thanks al Rob Regarding Aloe Vera plant.  The black oily substance at the base of each leaf is a powerful laxitive. Be careful.

Share what you know. Learn what you don’t.

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I’ve heard that drinking pure stabilized aloe vera juice really soothes the inflamed gut mucosa and helps heal ulcerations and reduce inflammations. It is expensive though for a 750 ml bottle and the one I tried recommended a 1/2 cup 3x a day, so the expensive bottle only lasted three days. I suppose you’d have to take it for a few weeks to really see real benefits.

Adam saw benefit the very next day after beginning aloe juice.  No more bleeding, pain, or diarrhea.  He started with 1/2 cup three times a day.  When I take it (not for colitis) I always have relief almost immediately. Jan…  

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Yes, belladonna is poisonous. But, used in small amounts, it’s a wonderful anti-spasmodic agent. It is the basis for the drug donnagel and similar medicines as well as digitalis, commonly used in the treatment of angina and other cardiac diseases.

Belladonna comes from deadly nightshade or atropa belladonna.  Digitalis (sorry, not for angina) is from foxglove or digitalis purpurea. Jan…  

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Belladonna is prepared for safety in a health store.  so let the herbs in the field remain.   It needs to be diluted at almost 100 times the original strength. Which makes me wonder, do animals ever eat all that is grown in the fields. I only used one a day, because it slows down the alimentary canal, as I noted before, Gail

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Regarding Aloe Vera plant.  The black oily substance at the base of each leaf is a powerful laxitive. Be careful.

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bonnie, No i don’t have too ..  

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  Maryjo wrote   No i don’t have too ..  

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From memory, you must be careful to use only the Gel contained within the Aloe leaf, the leaf can be poisonous….. This came from a tribal medicine man on a documentary that I watched years ago….. Cheers…. Bob – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – I’ve heard that drinking pure stabilized aloe vera juice really soothes the inflamed gut mucosa and helps heal ulcerations and reduce inflammations. It is expensive though for a 750 ml bottle and the one I tried recommended a 1/2 cup 3x a day, so the expensive bottle only lasted three days. I suppose you’d have to take it for a few weeks to really see real benefits. How about getting your own aloe vera plants and liquidizing the pulp to make your own fresh drink each day? PS, what other herbals were you on? Chris

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hmmm ….. <G less then an hour … hehehe

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Yes. But only the outer part of the leaf, which can be peeled off. It’s not really poisonous in that there will be fatal or catastrophic results, but rather it doesn’t digest well and amy cause stomach upsets or cramps. Also, the leaves may be sprayed and the chemicals in the spray may be toxic. But the juiecs and pulp inside are fairly safe. Bryan

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How long does it take for the Kava kava to kick in before the "mood" hits??? hehehee

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hehehe….guess I will have to invest in a little Kava Kava….hehehe

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Is the belladonna not poisonous? Is it not extracted from the plant Deadly Nightshare? I’ve heard of the plant being used in homoeopathic dilutions which cannot cause any poisoning, but never the real whole plant as a herb? Are you using the homoeopathic variety or the true herb, Gail? Bryan

Yes, belladonna is poisonous. But, used in small amounts, it’s a wonderful anti-spasmodic agent. It is the basis for the drug donnagel and similar medicines as well as digitalis, commonly used in the treatment of angina and other cardiac diseases. love, steve

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Bryan,   Sound like an angel stopped there and left a little piece of heaven. Gail

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Maybe, but the house is on the "wrong side of the hill" and it’s often too cold and windy to even enjoy the outside (this is supposed to be Sunny South Africa!!!). For example, our swimming pool is too cold for 9 months of the year to swim in and heating it would probably cost more than Chris’s Crohn’s diagnosis has cost! PS, if ever you strike it rich, pay us a visit Bryan

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Gail, Belladonna is definitly for the spasms as it was in the med Donnatal that I was placed on during my third pregnancy … it also helped with the chronic quesiness (sp) .. and the BIG "D" …. My son is now a healthy strapping 16 yr old … Valerian helps in the relaxation process and I use that with the Kava Kava so that I can get a good nights sleep … Now, Kava Kava also is good for getting the mood going … uh hmm … like sexually especcially in woman !!   hehehe, but it works on guys too .. (at least it seems to) Gail wrote

Belladonna for stomach spasms although it slows the alimentary canal,  Valerian (supposedly to protect the liver) chamomile tea or tablets (half and half enptied into clear capsule.)  Kava Kava.

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Bryan, I don’t know where you live that you would have access to whole plants of most anything.  Is South Africa a large plot of weeds and growth. I go to the Health store and buy the belladonna in herb form.  It is the size of a pinhead (maybe a little larger). Gail

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Yes, Gail. South Africa is fairly weeded. For example, opposite my house is a protected nature reserve where no trees or plants or weeds are allowed to be removed. In my yard, I have a small herb garden, growing cayenne (red pepper), "devil chillies", oregano, rosemary, bay, fennel, roses, dandelions (regarded as weeds), lemon verbena, lemon grass, penny royal, spearmint, peppermint, English lavender, French lavender, comfrey, blackjack, marijuana(but it died!), nasturtium, marigold, elderberry tree, horseradish, garlic, ginger, chives, garlic chives, scented geranium, nutmeg geranium, catnip (when the 3 cat’s don’t trample it to death!!!!), angelica and wormwood. I also have many trees and hundreds of other  plants. With the birds coming to eat the berries etc. it’s so peaceful and tranquil. Bryan

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Is the belladonna not poisonous? Is it not extracted from the plant Deadly Nightshare? I’ve heard of the plant being used in homoeopathic dilutions which cannot cause any poisoning, but never the real whole plant as a herb? Are you using the homoeopathic variety or the true herb, Gail? Bryan

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I’ve heard that drinking pure stabilized aloe vera juice really soothes the inflamed gut mucosa and helps heal ulcerations and reduce inflammations. It is expensive though for a 750 ml bottle and the one I tried recommended a 1/2 cup 3x a day, so the expensive bottle only lasted three days. I suppose you’d have to take it for a few weeks to really see real benefits. How about getting your own aloe vera plants and liquidizing the pulp to make your own fresh drink each day? PS, what other herbals were you on? Chris

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Bryan, You didn’t ask me, but I’ll tell you what herbs I have used intermittently. Belladonna for stomach spasms although it slows the alimentary canal, Valerian (supposedly to protect the liver)  chamomile tea or tablets (half and half enptied into clear capsule.) Kava Kava. The problem to watch out for is that taking the pain away from one spot does not clear crohns, it just moves to another weak spot which might make the situation worse.  Symptoms can be subdued in one spot but eventually will appear in another until the illness is negated completely. Gail

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Yes, aloe vera is a good start….But one also needs There Essential Fatty Acids….plus there vitamins and minerals and one of those more potent anti-oxidants is a good idea. – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Hi, I’m new to the group. My son Daniel who is 13 has had IC from birth. He has had extended periods of remission. One such one is ending after 2 years. We have used various herbel mixtures with great success up til now. Interspersed unfortunately with some pretty heavy doses of steroids prescribed by his specialist doctor. Naturally as a parent I want the best health possible for him. After doing a search today I came across a product called A.M.P.(a concentrated gel of Aloe Vera so far as I can see.) It reads very well but is very expensive! Before I order it I wonder whether members of this group know it or could recommend it? We have just started him on Aloe Vera prescribed by a local Herbalist, so it seems that we are on the right track!? Share what you know. Learn what you don’t.

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Hi, I’m new to the group. My son Daniel who is 13 has had IC from birth. He has had extended periods of remission. One such one is ending after 2 years. We have used various herbel mixtures with great success up til now. Interspersed unfortunately with some pretty heavy doses of steroids prescribed by his specialist doctor. Naturally as a parent I want the best health possible for him. After doing a search today I came across a product called A.M.P.(a concentrated gel of Aloe Vera so far as I can see.) It reads very well but is very expensive! Before I order it I wonder whether members of this group know it or could recommend it? We have just started him on Aloe Vera prescribed by a local Herbalist, so it seems that we are on the right track!? Share what you know. Learn what you don’t.

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Here’s a link to Interstitial Cystitis. It’s a bladder disease. There is mention at the bottom that IBS is a condition associated with IC but nothing about IBD.  Also "it may be an autoimmune disease." http://www.urologychannel.com/interstitialcystitis/index.shtml ~~~~Pat CD Class of 98 "Steven D. Hylton"  wrote – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – I’ve heard of it, but I just can’t remember where. I’m thinking, and I’ll get back to you if and when I remember. In the meantime, if anyone else has any ideas … steve (H) CD Class of ‘82 ASCC on the WWW: http://ascc.healingwell.com

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Interstitial cystitis always comes up when folks here talk about using DMSO. That’s about the only time I have heard about it. Debs – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Carol Never heard of ‘Interstitial Cystitis.’ Have had ulcerative colitis since 1995, but never heard of the first one. Howard I have what is called Interstitial Cystitis. I have just been diagnosed with colitis. Is there anyone who has any information on how the two may be related? I’ve heard of it, but I just can’t remember where. I’m thinking, and I’ll get back to you if and when I remember. In the meantime, if anyone else has any ideas … steve (H) CD Class of ‘82 ASCC on the WWW: http://ascc.healingwell.com —–=  Posted via Newsfeeds.Com, Uncensored Usenet News  =—– http://www.newsfeeds.com – The #1 Newsgroup Service in the World!  Check out our new Unlimited Server. No Download or Time Limits! —–==  Over 80,000 Newsgroups – 19 Different Servers!  ==—–

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Carol Never heard of ‘Interstitial Cystitis.’ Have had ulcerative colitis since 1995, but never heard of the first one. Howard I have what is called Interstitial Cystitis. I have just been diagnosed with colitis. Is there anyone who has any information on how the two may be related?

I’ve heard of it, but I just can’t remember where. I’m thinking, and I’ll get back to you if and when I remember. In the meantime, if anyone else has any ideas … steve (H) CD Class of ‘82 ASCC on the WWW: http://ascc.healingwell.com —–=  Posted via Newsfeeds.Com, Uncensored Usenet News  =—– http://www.newsfeeds.com – The #1 Newsgroup Service in the World!  Check out our new Unlimited Server. No Download or Time Limits! —–==  Over 80,000 Newsgroups – 19 Different Servers!  ==—–

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I have what is called Interstitial Cystitis. I have just been diagnosed with colitis. Is there anyone who has any information on how the two may be related?

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Carol Never heard of ‘Interstitial Cystitis.’ Have had ulcerative colitis since 1995, but never heard of the first one. Howard – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – I have what is called Interstitial Cystitis. I have just been diagnosed with colitis. Is there anyone who has any information on how the two may be related?

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Hi, my name is Kris (26) and I have had colitis for 2 years.  For most of this time I have been on and off prednizone. I need to know when this stuff will start effecting me and what else I can take besides asacol to help me through severe bouts. Kris

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Kris, Welcome!  I hope that your GI is giving you more options beyond asacol and pred.  There are many more medications available for long term management.  Learn as much as you can about your disease and question your GI.  Long term pred. use will result in some pretty severe side effects.  You are too young for this.  If your GI isn’t willing to try other drugs, find someone associated w/ a teaching hospital who is.  The best place to begin learning is the CCFA web site:  http://www.ccfa.org. Good luck!  mgbio CD Class of ‘99 http://www.skyweb.net/~mgbio/cd/cd.html – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Hi, my name is Kris (26) and I have had colitis for 2 years.  For most of this time I have been on and off prednizone. I need to know when this stuff will start effecting me and what else I can take besides asacol to help me through severe bouts. Kris

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Hi   I was diagnosed with Ulcerative Colitis seven months ago. The VA has decided ti treat me with the drug MESALAMINE, the problem is that i am allergic to asperin. Is there any drugs available for colitis that does not have asperin in it. need help urgently. thank you. Patrick O’Donovan

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Hi   I was diagnosed with Ulcerative Colitis seven months ago. The VA has decided ti treat me with the drug MESALAMINE, the problem is that i am allergic to asperin. Is there any drugs available for colitis that does not have asperin in it. need help urgently. thank you.

The ASA-5 drugs don’t have aspirin in them I don’t think. Violet Tigress

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No my understanding is that if you are allergic to aspirin than do not take it.  UM MOM Susan

– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Hi   I was diagnosed with Ulcerative Colitis seven months ago. The VA has decided ti treat me with the drug MESALAMINE, the problem is that i am allergic to asperin. Is there any drugs available for colitis that does not have asperin in it. need help urgently. thank you. The ASA-5 drugs don’t have aspirin in them I don’t think. Violet Tigress

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No my understanding is that if you are allergic to aspirin than do not take it.  UM MOM Susan

Mesalamine has asprin in it?   I’ve never taken Mesalamine I just remember taking Asulfadine when I was first diagnosed… I know that had aspprin in it.

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Mesalamine (asacol) does not have any aspirin. It is one of the 5-ASA drugs. Aspirin is an NSAID and can be bad for some people with IBD. Asacol and other 5-ASA medications are specifically designed to help people with IBD although I’ve read that they are less effective for people with Crohn’s. I have UC and I’ve been taking it for about 3+ years. I also have problems with aspirin but none with asacol which I believe does help me. Regards, Jeff 2

– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Hi   I was diagnosed with Ulcerative Colitis seven months ago. The VA has decided ti treat me with the drug MESALAMINE, the problem is that i am allergic to asperin. Is there any drugs available for colitis that does not have asperin in it. need help urgently. thank you. Patrick O’Donovan

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Hello Patrick I am in the same situation as you. I have a small to moderate UC and cannot take mesalamine. That was really a problem. My doctor then decided to put me on prednisolone enemas when it’s really needed. But to keep remission I decided by myself to take a german medication called "Mutaflor" (www.ardeypharm.de). It’s one the only alternative that is as efficient as mesalamine (proved by studies based on hundreds patients). I don’t regret this choice because I never been in such a good health since many years. And more, there is no side effects (it’s a particular strain of bacterias – probiotics -). These good bacterias are in enteric coated capsules that open only when reach bowel. Doctors in France don’t prescribe this medication because, and it’s seems to be the only reason, it’s not available in french pharmacies. I buy it directly from the laboratory. Hope this helps, Oliver – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Hi   I was diagnosed with Ulcerative Colitis seven months ago. The VA has decided to treat me with the drug MESALAMINE, the problem is that i am allergic to asperin. Is there any drugs available for colitis that does not have asperin in it. need help urgently. thank you. Patrick O’Donovan

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Hi   I was diagnosed with Ulcerative Colitis seven months ago. The VA has decided to treat me with the drug MESALAMINE, the problem is that i am allergic to asperin. Is there any drugs available for colitis that does not have asperin in it. need help urgently. thank you. Patrick O’Donovan

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Hi Patrick, Mesalamine, a 5ASA medication is related to aspirin but is not the same chemically.  Aspirin, and all NASIDS, are big no no’s for IBD’ers.  The 5ASA medications are the standard "first line" of medications usually used.  You’ll want to try and avoid steroids, especially for long term maintenance, due to the side effects.  There are a number of other medications available.  The next class of drugs used are immunomodulatrs such as 6MP, Immuran and Methotrexate.  Also, Remicade is being tested for UC and the results are promising.  Combining Remicade with an immunomodulatrs gives best results.  Many in the research field are beginning to think Remicade should be a first line drug and not a last resort.  One of the best resources online is the Crohn’s & Colitis Foundation of America, http://www.ccfa.org.  Good luck!  mgbio – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Hi   I was diagnosed with Ulcerative Colitis seven months ago. The VA has decided to treat me with the drug MESALAMINE, the problem is that i am allergic to asperin. Is there any drugs available for colitis that does not have asperin in it. need help urgently. thank you. Patrick O’Donovan

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I suffered from colitis for seven or eight years, until late last year when I changed my diet as the result of reading "L’ Alimentation ou La Troisi

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Thanks Rebecca! The support here is such a pick me up when I feel hopeless about the "real world" support. Jennifer

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A former GI specialist I saw said that the sort of headaches that prednisone can cause are more migraine like as opposed to the muscle tension type(which I had and still get to this day even though having been off the pred for two and a half years; this is a "fight-and-flight" response to occasional pains I get in the ileocecal area). Mark Mandell

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Wow! Keep that doctor!  I am not having the same luck with the ones I have. I have an appointment today with my primary care physician because my tongue has been burning and I am very weak and pale.  This tells me that I might have vitamin B12 anemia.  He indicated over the phone that he thought it was probably a side effect of prednisone!??  I am not looking forward to the fight to get him to do something for me.  My GI doc, however, is very good….but he is also two hours away. – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Bonita,        I’m glad to finally see the words "I know what you mean" or "I know how you feel" and know that they are actually truthful! I think I have a good GI, I was just diagnosed in Dec. and before this I had not been really sick before so my experience w/ dr.’s in general is a bare minimum, I had been inquiring on different herbs and stuff and he told me that they are not scientifically proven, but that they wouldn’t hurt me, and went on to say that he’d like me to bring in some info on my next visit so we could research it. Which I thought was a pretty good thing because most dr’s have never listened to me, and just gone on with their basic routines of treating whatever was wrong and not personalizing the treatment per person. Jennifer

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Thanks Steve!  I needed that. – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – My philosophy with doctors is based on 2 facts: 1) It’s my body and no one knows it better — so if you want to help me, you have to listen to what I say; and if you want to treat me, you better explain it to me so I understand and agree with it. If you don’t — you’re not the only doctor in town. 2) I am paying for a service and I expect to get my money’s worth. That may mean the doctor has to ask questions, but he also has to trust what I tell him and work with me to try and keep me well. And if not, the phone book is full of doctors who would love to have my money. Be assertive. Ask questions. Say exactly what you think and exactly how you feel. Answer the questions honestly — not how you think he wants you to. No doctor can help you if you don’t tell him what’s going on. Love, Steve http://www.geocities.com/HotSprings/Falls/3298 http://www.digdat.com/~psyche0/index.html

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Thanks Steve! *l* sometimes I just feel hopeless w/ her. Jennifer

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My philosophy with doctors is based on 2 facts: 1) It’s my body and no one knows it better — so if you want to help me, you have to listen to what I say; and if you want to treat me, you better explain it to me so I understand and agree with it. If you don’t — you’re not the only doctor in town. 2) I am paying for a service and I expect to get my money’s worth. That may mean the doctor has to ask questions, but he also has to trust what I tell him and work with me to try and keep me well. And if not, the phone book is full of doctors who would love to have my money. Be assertive. Ask questions. Say exactly what you think and exactly how you feel. Answer the questions honestly — not how you think he wants you to. No doctor can help you if you don’t tell him what’s going on. Love, Steve http://www.geocities.com/HotSprings/Falls/3298 http://www.digdat.com/~psyche0/index.html

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Jennifer, I would suggest that you tell your mother if she cannot keep up with the research, then she should keep her out-dated notions to herself — but I doubt that would work. Instead, it’s probably better to just say thank you and walk away. An occasional, "Bite me" might help. Love, Steve http://www.geocities.com/HotSprings/Falls/3298 http://www.digdat.com/~psyche0/index.html

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i have to take excedrin for those type headaches and now because of prednisone i have to take high blood presssure medicine (ziac) …my headaches are tolerable now not severe as before…..

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Jennifer: Sorry to inform you (and your mother) but, contrary to popular belief – moms DON’T know everything (and don’t have eyes in the back of their heads either). Keep reading and educating yourself. You can check with all of us if you need more information. IBD is not like a cold. You are right, your mom is wrong (and you can tell her I said that). Rebecca a mom who is clueless in most departments… – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – sorry, after reading that I have to add a little more, it seems to me that she thinks it’s like a cold or something, you take your meds, and when you feel better it’s all gone, until you get "another cold" I really think this is her tought process on this disease, but I am not her so I can’t say for sure. Jennifer

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I know what you mean Jennifer.  My mom won’t even talk to me since I was diagnosed.  She has chronic fatigue syndrome and severe depression and I don’t think she likes having someone else have something wrong with them as this detracts from the attention she gets from her illness. It is a very difficult thing, I have found, to create some sort of balance between not allowing myself to fall off the deep end of the pity party pool and yet focus on my symptoms enough to be able to get the care that I need. I find that as soon as I am questioned about what I feel or what symptoms I am having or why…I immediately back down.  Then later (after I get home) I become angry, with the doctor for suggesting I don’t know what I am talking about, and at myself for not standing up to him. It is nice to have this group so that we can be a sounding board for each other.  Does anyone have any ideas on how to communicate effectively with your doctors.  My GI is great, but the others I have seen I am not so sure about.

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Bonita,         I’m glad to finally see the words "I know what you mean" or "I know how you feel" and know that they are actually truthful! I think I have a good GI, I was just diagnosed in Dec. and before this I had not been really sick before so my experience w/ dr.’s in general is a bare minimum, I had been inquiring on different herbs and stuff and he told me that they are not scientifically proven, but that they wouldn’t hurt me, and went on to say that he’d like me to bring in some info on my next visit so we could research it. Which I thought was a pretty good thing because most dr’s have never listened to me, and just gone on with their basic routines of treating whatever was wrong and not personalizing the treatment per person. Jennifer

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Well, I have been on prednisone for 11 days and all of my symptoms from colitis and lupus are getting better.  BUT  I have an incredible headache all the time (tylenol doesn’t help) and my pulse is often between 118 and 140 even resting or just walking up the stairs.  Are these typical prednisone side effects? Should I be worried? Is there anything to help? Thanks Bonita

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Bonita,      When I’ve been on higher dosages of Prednisone in the past, it makes me TERRIBLY short of breath. The stairs being a perfect example. I used to have to stop at the landing and catch my breath before I ascended the second set. As for the headaches, I don’t know — however I am on a dose of Pred. now and am having headaches — and have had headaches in the past.. come to think of it, maybe it IS the Pred.. LOL, thanks for the insight! ~elaine

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Your heart rate can go up and you can break into a sweat day or night.  Just part of the fun. Sue in Utah

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hi-i’ve recently been put back on prednisone for by crohns disease-i have had a dull headache everyday-most likely it is just another lovely thing that comes with prednisone-in case you haven’t guessed prednisone is my nightmare med-i think the longer you take it the more effects you have linda

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hi-i’ve recently been put back on prednisone for by crohns disease-i have had a dull headache everyday-most likely it is just another lovely thing that comes with prednisone-in case you haven’t guessed prednisone is my nightmare med-i think the longer you take it the more effects you have linda

Well, I just got back from my first visit with a rhuematologist and I mentioned the headaches to him.  His response was….probably a tension headache, headaches are not usually a side effect of prednisone.  Let’s see, I guess I am too dumb to know that I didn’t get headaches BEFORE I started taking the prednisone and I do get headaches NOW.  He also told me to start weaning MYSELF off the prednisone (I have only been on it for 11 days) when it was my gastroenterologist who put me on the prednisone in the first place.  I did not have a warm gushy feeling (other than the diarrhea I had before I went in to see him) about this guy.  What do you all think?

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Maybe your doctor would think a tranquillizer would help to reduce the stress and lower the pulse.

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I recommend a large mallet to knock some sense into the rheumatologist.

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I recommend a large mallet to knock some sense into the rheumatologist.

Thank you.  Next time I go to see him, I think I will bring one of those cartoon hammers that swell up when you take them out of your pocket.  That way he won’t know what hit him, and I can watch the birds tweet around his head.

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BUT  I have an incredible headache all the time (tylenol doesn’t help)

The only thing that works on these headaches for me is ibuprofin. (and yes, i pay for it in the gut the next day…but if the headache won’t go away. i take it. )my pulse is often between 118 and 140 even resting or just walking up the stairs.  

Yes, on prednisone my pulse is around 120 resting heart rate.  That means I can’t do any really strenious exercise.  A brisk walk gets my heart rate up into "target" exercise area, so that is what I do each day.  I also take corgard for blood pressure, but aparently it has an ingredent that helps to keep your heart rate down also.  If I don’t take it my heart rate really skyrockets. Are these typical prednisone side effects? Should I be worried? Is there anything to help?

I would definately mention it to your doctor and make him understand that these are more than bothersome side-effects and they need to be delt with. Julie

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I mentioned the headaches to him.  His response was….probably a tension headache, headaches are not usually a side effect of prednisone.

I thought I was alone on this one, whenever I feel achey(sp) or just generally run down or yucky feeling, I know it’s because of the disease but my mother always, always "knows" it’s something else. Or if I eat something, she always says, you can’t eat that! Or the problems with stress and depression, she thinks they just disappear if you pray, well, I do pray and ask God to guide me through, and he does, put my problems don’t just disappear, my mother agrivates(sp) me to no end, she doesn’t read or do any of the research I have done so I don’t see how she thinks she knows how my body is working/coping better than I do, and when I try and educate her on different things I’ve found she just kinda sighs and looks at it and well, she says that it’s too much information for her to keep up with, I guess I’m just really frustrated right now and feel like no one understands what I am going through (sound familiar?!) I guess I just needed to vent a little. I have so much more bottled up inside but I feel like I’ve whined enough for now. Thanks for listening. Jennifer

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sorry, after reading that I have to add a little more, it seems to me that she thinks it’s like a cold or something, you take your meds, and when you feel better it’s all gone, until you get "another cold" I really think this is her tought process on this disease, but I am not her so I can’t say for sure. Jennifer

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If anyone has ever heard of the following side-effect from bowel resection surgery (due to cancerous polyp found in the colon) please let me know. My 71-year old mother had the resection operation done about a year ago and is now constantly moving her bowels. It is not particularly loose or constipated. But she goes with extreme frequency. Also this is not connected, apparently, to any particular food she eats.Could this be a side effect of the surgery, is there a name for this condition, and how is one to cope with it? She has been told she has colitis but we believe this is very possibly a MISdiagnosis due to lack of any of the classic symptoms of colitis (such as cramping and pain, fatigue, weight loss among others). Thankfully there is no recurrence of cancer and no further evidence that the cancer had spread beyond the original, removed polyp. Thank you!!

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It depends on what part was resected.  If they resected part of the terminal ileum along with the colon where the polyp was, then she could be having many BM’s.  The terminal ileum (just before the colon) absorbs the bile from the feces, the bile then enters the colon causing BM’s. I had my terminal ileum and cecum removed Dec 1994.  I had many BM’s, my doc’s put me on colestid/colestipol (comes in powder or tab form) and I almost immediately returned to normal BM’s.  The surgery was to correct a fistula from the terminal ileum and the bladder and to resect Crohns disease in the ileum. I was 70 at the time. Tom Mastin – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – If anyone has ever heard of the following side-effect from bowel resection surgery (due to cancerous polyp found in the colon) please let me know. My 71-year old mother had the resection operation done about a year ago and is now constantly moving her bowels. It is not particularly loose or constipated. But she goes with extreme frequency. Also this is not connected, apparently, to any particular food she eats.Could this be a side effect of the surgery, is there a name for this condition, and how is one to cope with it? She has been told she has colitis but we believe this is very possibly a MISdiagnosis due to lack of any of the classic symptoms of colitis (such as cramping and pain, fatigue, weight loss among others). Thankfully there is no recurrence of cancer and no further evidence that the cancer had spread beyond the original, removed polyp. Thank you!!

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Greetings Keyfool, I was through this a little over a year ago.  Did your mother have radiation treatments? I had a little difficulty which has over the last couple of months settled down to almost normal.  When I talked to my oncologist about having some frequency he said that it may take quite a while to have the effects completely wear off.  I was also told that it is possible to develop a chronic ’short bowel’ syndrome which can be due to just surgery but might be accentuated by radiation as well. I still would consider what she eats…even if it doesn’t seem to be correlated with any diet.  In my personal experience, I found that up until 9-10 months after the surgery, I had much more frequent episodes…and that if I tried to maintain a higher fiber diet…it increased significantly.  Then I remembered how much I liked cheesesteaks When I ate cheese, rice, meat, and breads….and kept the fiber intake down…I felt almost normal. Now after 15 months I eat virtually anything….but have found that I now have to eat a little more fiber to keep things moving.  The pendulum seems to have swung back. The term ‘colitis’ is rather broad.  Colitis just refers to some time of inflammation of various origin.  I would think that if it was colitis in the sense of irritated bowel lining….then there might be some blood. I still think the best thing is to maybe add a little rice to the diet. Rice is a nice food which sort of stops you up. I would certainly ask for another opinion if this continues for more then a week or two.  They may also be able to perscribe something if it is a big problem. If she only had a cancerous polyp removed and it was not many polyps all over the place…her chances are great.  Its when (like mine) that it had gone far beyond the polyp stage.  But they got my tumor…and I’m all clear on all tests for the last year. Good luck…I hope she feels better soon. MJK – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – If anyone has ever heard of the following side-effect from bowel resection surgery (due to cancerous polyp found in the colon) please let me know. My 71-year old mother had the resection operation done about a year ago and is now constantly moving her bowels. It is not particularly loose or constipated. But she goes with extreme frequency. Also this is not connected, apparently, to any particular food she eats.Could this be a side effect of the surgery, is there a name for this condition, and how is one to cope with it? She has been told she has colitis but we believe this is very possibly a MISdiagnosis due to lack of any of the classic symptoms of colitis (such as cramping and pain, fatigue, weight loss among others). Thankfully there is no recurrence of cancer and no further evidence that the cancer had spread beyond the original, removed polyp. Thank you!!

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thanks for your help. have a good and healthy holiday! keyfool

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No, no radiation, fortunately it was not needed. thank you so much for your input. have a safe, healthy holiday! keyfool

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does anyone know the symptoms of colitis? thanks

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INTENSE prolonged intestinal cramping (- the kind that doubles you over), blood in stool, chronic diarrhea, usually resulting from EXTREME stress, SEE A DOCTOR – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – does anyone know the symptoms of colitis? thanks

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: My cousin recently told me that he has colitis and asked if I knew : of  anything he can do about it. His MD has given him no advice on : nutrition (surprise!) and I don’t know what to tell him to eat. He : says that veggies seem to exacerbate it. The diet should be warm foods only. Soup, congee (which is rice soup cooked until the grain breaks down), prepared foods. No fruit or fruit juice, iced desserts, coffee or other stimulants. No desserts within one hour of eating. No skipped or delayed meals. Stress-reduction exercises are of value in those who also have the concommitant of angry outbursts, though many collitis sufferers are repressers. In that case, taking regular mild exercise is very important. Early bedtimes are also a good idea (9-10 PM). That should help some. Raw veggies will indeed exacerbate such problems.

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May I recommend you investigate the use of butyrate enemas in treating your colitis.  There appears to be strong link between butyrate production in the colonic mucosa and the occurance of CHRONIC inflammatory bowel disease. A good start: Steinhart, Brzezinski, Baker, et al. Treatment of Refractory Ulcerative Proctosigmoiditis with Butyrate Enemas.  The American Journal of Gastroenterology, Vol. 89, No. 2, 1994 Good Luck, Dave

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My cousin recently told me that he has colitis and asked if I knew of anything he can do about it. His MD has given him no advice on nutrition (surprise!) and I don’t know what to tell him to eat. He says that veggies seem to exacerbate it. I’d like for hime to see and alternative nutritionist, but he cannot afford it. I suggested for him to take barley green every day to make up for the nutrients that he’s lacking by not consuming any veggies. Please, if anyone knows what to do,he would appreciate any advice. He has lost 50 pounds!

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hi, you should try an alternative cure that will cure you definitely: nettle infusion – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – I would like to hear from anyone who has ever suffered from ulcerative colitis.  What are the diagnostic procedures?  Did your doctors insist on colonscopy (sp)?  Is there a usual protocol for treatment–assuming there is no other pathology?  It seems to me I have heard the drug flagyl mentioned.  What side-effects, do you know?  I would be grateful — mlk

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I would like to hear from anyone who has ever suffered from ulcerative colitis.  What are the diagnostic procedures?  Did your doctors insist on colonscopy (sp)?  Is there a usual protocol for treatment–assuming there is no other pathology?  It seems to me I have heard the drug flagyl mentioned.  What side-effects, do you know?  I would be grateful

Margo, I had a severe case when I was pregnant with my daughter–and probably undiagnosed episodes before then.  Yes, I had to be scoped.  It was pretty unpleasant, but the prep is even worse.  But by the time I did this, I was convinced I was on the verge of death, so it was a relief to find out that this was not the case. (Also I think the worrying about one’s condition perpetuates it.)  Falgyl was never mentioned.  I was first put on sulfasalizine (sp?  It’s been a long time), which I didn’t like.  Then I went on Dipentum (sp), which worked very well.  I haven’t had a relapse in over 7 years!!!  Jean B.

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Thanks to swanlady and all who responded to my questions on UC. I am trying to handle this problem on my own–apparently a wise decision at this point.  Doctors are for emergencies; I hope I don’t become one. My e-mail to Swanlady didn’t go; maybe I did a typo.  Thanks for your post. — mlk

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I would like to hear from anyone who has ever suffered from ulcerative colitis.  What are the diagnostic procedures?  Did your doctors insist on colonscopy (sp)?  Is there a usual protocol for treatment–assuming there is no other pathology?  It seems to me I have heard the drug flagyl mentioned.  What side-effects, do you know?  I would be grateful — mlk

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My husband had this about 2 months ago, and the doctor insisted on a colonscopy to see if he had cancer.  (We think it was just for the money.)  They gave him flagyl and bactrim.  After taking the bactrim he felt better and didn’t go to the specialist that they recommneded he go to.  (Of course for more money)  Would he go through the colonscopy again? NO NO NO NO  In his own words, "they can’t cure it, and the tests don’t do anything for you. Your pocketbook is low on cash after paying off what the insurance doesn’t cover.  They should just give the patient the anti bacteria drug or whatever it is and be done with it, but they have made $1000’s of dollars off of one person, so they keep doing it. Frankly, we both think we picked up the bacteria from hamburgers we ate at a major fast food restaurant, perhaps from one of the employees not washing their hands, etc. I read up about his condition, and now we no longer eat at fast food unless we have to, and he takes bran tablets for his colon.  So far he hasn’t had any more trouble. – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – I would like to hear from anyone who has ever suffered from ulcerative colitis.  What are the diagnostic procedures?  Did your doctors insist on colonscopy (sp)?  Is there a usual protocol for treatment–assuming there is no other pathology?  It seems to me I have heard the drug flagyl mentioned.  What side-effects, do you know?  I would be grateful — mlk

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NICOTINE’S DAILY DOSE MAY BENEFIT COLITIS SUFFERERS, STUDY SAYS PHILADELPHIA (Mar 1,1997 02:25 a.m. EST)–Nicotine may reduce cramping and other symptoms of colitis, a painful intestinal disease that affects hundreds of thousands of people in the United States according to a study published Saturday. Doctors at May Clinic found that colitis sufferers who wore nicotine skin patches during a four-week trial experienced less rectal bleeding, severe diarrhea and stomach cramps than those who were denied nicotine. A study almost identical to this was published in NEJM for November, 1994, with similar results. Except the NEJM study was 6 weeks instead of 4. I guess it’s good the earlier study was confirmed, but it would be nice if someone would do longer-term research that included toxicity studies. Larry Finch

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Richard: I was very interested in your message.  Finding information on the link between nicotine and UC was the reason I logged on to this newsgroup.  My sister has UC and every relapse she has had occurred after quitting smoking.   Her doctor said that he feels nicotine gum is a radical step but concedes that there seems to be a link between nicotine and UC relapse.   He recommends surgery.  My sister feels this is a more radical step and has been chewing Nicorets.  So far, so good.  I am extremely interested in this link and would welcome any web links with information on the relationship between nicotine and UC. Thanks, Sjaan Morrow – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Hi all, According to some research (FAQ on UC from the Web), smoking can help prevent relapse in some people. My wife had her first relapse in 15 years after giving up smoking. We are thinking of buying some nicotine gum. Does anyone have any knowledge or info about this? Please repost or email.. Thanks,

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I agree, I smoke, and tried the patch, without dr. consent, it was entirely to much nicotene for me, it made me ill, so please check on it first.

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The theory behind colloidal minerals is true and legitimate, However CM’s (colloidal minerals) can not properly deliver mineral species via gastrointestinal administration-(I am a doctor with a Biochem degree..I can speak with authority regarding these chemicals). I became aware of these products when I also received a tape. However, at the same time I also found a site on the net (http://www.eccentrica.org/docbiz/la2.htm) which offered samples of "Ionic Minerals" which theoretically can do what cm’s promise. Since they were free I tried them. To my skeptical surprise, (Although their taste is not the most comfortable) I did feel invigorated…from where I stand I can attribute this,never before attained stamina, to this mineral supplement. These, "ionic minerals" do not contain toxic elements. To deny, the Biochemical basis of this product is to act on the side of ignorance.

I’ve been swallowing TJ Clark colloidal minerals for over a year.  I can attest that I felt a difference in my mental functioning in the very first day, and it’s just gotten better from there.  My husband’s poor memory has improved to the point where he no longer calls me to ask what our son’s phone number is, and he no longer uses his rolodex at work, seemingly having memorized everyone in the country’s phone number. LOL!  My 30 year old son with ADD is using them with great benefit as well, and I could go on and on.  We’ve recently switched to an "ionic" form of trace minerals and see no difference.  They’re great. Jan…  

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The theory behind colloidal minerals is true and legitimate, However CM’s (colloidal minerals) can not properly deliver mineral species via gastrointestinal administration-(I am a doctor with a Biochem degree..I can speak with authority regarding these chemicals). I became aware of these products when I also received a tape. However, at the same time I also found a site on the net (http://www.eccentrica.org/docbiz/la2.htm) which offered samples of "Ionic Minerals" which theoretically can do what cm’s promise. Since they were free I tried them. To my skeptical surprise, (Although their taste is not the most comfortable) I did feel invigorated…from where I stand I can attribute this,never before attained stamina, to this mineral supplement. These, "ionic minerals" do not contain toxic elements. To deny, the Biochemical basis of this product is to act on the side of ignorance.                                                      J. Fogel M.D.,B.S. – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – I believe you’re talking about colloidal trace minerals.  Great stuff, probably part of the reason Adam is in remission.  He takes it 3 times a day. got some mail from this guy in Holland (I think) who said that it wasn’t the nicotine, but some other stuff in the tobacco.   A lot of this stuff is in colloidials as well.  I had a bottle in the fridge collecting dust, because I was told of it’s properties before, but it tastes like SHIT.  However, I was in the middle of a flare up and nothing was working.  I started taking  the coloidials again and my symptoms have been going away.  I suppose that the flare up could have just been going down, but I’m wondering.  Could some other people try it out and see if it does anything?  You can get a bottle at any healthfood store, and I understand that they do make some that tastes okay, but I don’t know were or what the brand name is. Jan…

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I believe you’re talking about colloidal trace minerals.  Great stuff, probably part of the reason Adam is in remission.  He takes it 3 times a day. got some mail from this guy in Holland (I think) who said that it wasn’t the nicotine, but some other stuff in the tobacco.   A lot of this stuff is in colloidials as well.  I had a bottle in the fridge collecting dust, because I was told of it’s properties before, but it tastes like SHIT.  However, I was in the middle of a flare up and nothing was working.  I started taking  the coloidials again and my symptoms have been going away.  I suppose that the flare up could have just been going down, but I’m wondering.  Could some other people try it out and see if it does anything?  You can get a bottle at any healthfood store, and I understand that they do make some that tastes okay, but I don’t know were or what the brand name is.

Jan…  

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I was pursuing this for awhile and I got some mail from this guy in Holland (I think) who said that it wasn’t the nicotine, but some other stuff in the tobacco.   A lot of this stuff is in colloidials as well.  I had a bottle in the fridge collecting dust, because I was told of it’s properties before, but it tastes like SHIT.  However, I was in the middle of a flare up and nothing was working.  I started taking  the coloidials again and my symptoms have been going away.  I suppose that the flare up could have just been going down, but I’m wondering.  Could some other people try it out and see if it does anything?  You can get a bottle at any healthfood store, and I understand that they do make some that tastes okay, but I don’t know were or what the brand name is. Dead doctors tell no lies

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I have had success with going back to smoking.  I had quit about two years ago on New Years Eve and by February 16, I was so sick, I finally went to a Gastro.  and that is when I was diagnosed with ulcerative colitis.   A couple years back, when I was pregnant with my first son, I of course quit smoking, and all during my pregnancy, strange things would  come out and I just thought that it was part of the pregnancy.  After my son was born, I went back to smoking and all of the "symptoms" went away.  Again, with my second son, the same thing happened. None of my friends beleived me when I told them that my doctor told me basically to go back to smoking until finally in one of the newsletters I received from the foundation had an article about smoking and IBD. Anyway, smoking has not cured it but I am in remission much more now!   I hope this helped you a little.

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I have had similar experience to Tom’s. Seven years a non smoker and 6.5 of them with bad colitis. Never connected the two until I read and article about nicotine. Was quite desparate as the steroid use and other potent drug combos were causing too many other problems so I started to smoke and within two weeks was symptom free. Only had to smoke 5-10 smokes a week and was fine, but the nicotine addiction took over and was back to 15 a day so I quit and colitis returned in 3 weeks. Have quit 3 times in last 4 years, same result. I hate smoking, but what to do? what to do? Doug – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Has anybody had success using nicotine to treat ulcerative colitis.                                 Peter. Hi Peter and Group, I’ve been lurking here for the past few months (most informative, thank you all), kind of looking for an opportunity to share my experiences. I was on vacation during the last "UC and Smoking" debate, otherwise I might have joined earlier. Anyway, this might just be as good a thread as any

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As to whether there is a dormant colitis, it’s my understanding that colitis can go into remission for years at a time. I have a close friend with Ulcerative Colitis who has been asymptomatic for well over 5 years. I have read that Crohn’s Disease is less likely to go into remission, and that remission periods tend to be less than 2 years. My own CD went into remission for 18 months following surgery back in 1986. Hope this is helpful — Steve

Steve, could you explain the phenomenon of dormant colitis? Thanks.

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Steve, could you explain the phenomenon of dormant colitis? Thanks.

Uh, no, actually I can’t; some people simply go into a "spontaneous" remission that can last for years. As far as I can tell, no one seems to know why or how. During the remission, there appears to be no inflammatory process and no symptoms of colitis. Sorry I couldn’t be more helpful. steve

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Thanks, Steve. But could you explain how it works, what it is supposed to do? Also, IS there such a thing really as asymptomatic or dormant colitis?

I wish I could, but since we don’t really understand what causes CD & colitis, we really don’t have much of a clue as to why and how some of the medicines work. Since Asacol is similar to aspirin, it probably has some anti-inflammatory effects. Incidentally, it is derived from the antibiotic Azulfidene, which has been the first line of treatment in CD, except that we don’t understand why it works either, though the fact that it is an antibiotic had researchers looking for a bacterial cause for many, many years. Most have abandoned this theory now. The important thing about Asacol is the enteric coating; it is supposed to pass through your stomach undigested so that the amino-salicylic acid gets to the affected part of your bowel. As to whether there is a dormant colitis, it’s my understanding that colitis can go into remission for years at a time. I have a close friend with Ulcerative Colitis who has been asymptomatic for well over 5 years. I have read that Crohn’s Disease is less likely to go into remission, and that remission periods tend to be less than 2 years. My own CD went into remission for 18 months following surgery back in 1986. Hope this is helpful — Steve

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I’ve been taking asacol for several years with no obvious side effects. I started out at two tablets three times a day, and I was on that dose for at least three years. Now, my GI has upped it to 4 tablets three times a day, and I still see no problems. Others here have complained of a headache and others have had difficulty digesting the enteric coating — which isn’t really a problem except that you don’t get any medicinal benefit from the pill. Steve

Thanks, Steve. But could you explain how it works, what it is supposed to do? Also, IS there such a thing really as asymptomatic or dormant colitis?

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I’ve been taking asacol for several years with no obvious side effects. I started out at two tablets three times a day, and I was on that dose for at least three years. Now, my GI has upped it to 4 tablets three times a day, and I still see no problems. Others here have complained of a headache and others have had difficulty digesting the enteric coating — which isn’t really a problem except that you don’t get any medicinal benefit from the pill. Steve – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -Yow! Just this afternoon the doctor prescribed Asocol for 10 days for me as a result of a sigmoidoscopy indicated colitis following on a reaction I had to an antibiotic which was thought to be pseudo-membraneous colitis. What can I expect from 2 tablets three times a day of this stuff??? By the way, the doctor was surprised that my case was apparently latent, since I had little in the way of symptoms typical of colitis until that darn antibiotic, Vantin, used for symptoms of bronchitis. Ironically, he suggested that was diagnosed as Crohn’s 18 years ago may actually have been colitis, albeit with hardly any symptoms….

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Yow! Just this afternoon the doctor prescribed Asocol for 10 days for me as a result of a sigmoidoscopy indicated colitis following on a reaction I had to an antibiotic which was thought to be pseudo-membraneous colitis. What can I expect from 2 tablets three times a day of this stuff??? By the way, the doctor was surprised that my case was apparently latent, since I had little in the way of symptoms typical of colitis until that darn antibiotic, Vantin, used for symptoms of bronchitis. Ironically, he suggested that was diagnosed as Crohn’s 18 years ago may actually have been colitis, albeit with hardly any symptoms….

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Yep.  Looks like a common thng. It happened to me too.  I checked one out once that I thought looked whole and found the casing was soft and thin and had a small crack down the length of it and there was nothing inside.  It had been released. I know about the ph thing and wonder if at times the ph varies from what is considered "normal" at that section of the bowel and this sometimes causes the variation in release points (or sometimes, not at all). I havn’t taken Asacol in many years now.  I take Mesasal now.   I am totally lactose intol and Asacol has a very small amount of lactose in it for filler, Mesasal does not.  Plus I required something that releases a tad earlier in the bowel, and Mesasal does that. It seems I’ve seen some posts concerning Mesasal and  assume by them that it is only available in Canada (where I live).  I may be wrong. Wayne.

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P.S. I read in a medicinebook that the coating of Asacol falls of at the Ph 7. Just after your stomach the Ph is much lower and I think that the Ph gets higher the further you go. That’s why it’s not meant to brake down like MHirsch said. Marion. – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – When I got Asacol, it said on the paper from Thrifty’s to contact your doctor if they come out whole, it must be a common problem.    I have been using Asocol for the last few weeks but can not digest them.They can be in my system for more than 24 hrs and still be a whole.Has anyone had this problem and what are some tips.Breaking them up has failed also.Do the makers of Asocol have a web page? Asacol is not meant to be broken before taking, they are designed to break down in the proper area. Also, what you see in the stool may not be the whole pill, it may be only the coating.

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When I got Asacol, it said on the paper from Thrifty’s to contact your doctor if they come out whole, it must be a common problem.    I have been using Asocol for the last few weeks but can not digest them.They can be in my system for more than 24 hrs and still be a whole.Has anyone had this problem and what are some tips.Breaking them up has failed also.Do the makers of Asocol have a web page?

Asacol is not meant to be broken before taking, they are designed to break down in the proper area. Also, what you see in the stool may not be the whole pill, it may be only the coating.

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I used to see them again as well, but the doc said that it was only the outer that you could see (didn’t look that hard!) because they are designed to stay whole until the colon. However — he also said that he sometimes sees asacol whole during colonoscopies – once lodged at the entrance to the appendix. Regards

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Hai there! I have been taken Asacol for about 6 weeks now and also I have found some pils in my stool. It was not just the coating, the white powder was still inside. The coating was broken. My docter told me it can happen and that I don’t have to worry about it as long as it doesn’t happen to often. But it is still a scarry thought. Good luck. Marion Peters, Hoofddorp, Holland – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – When I got Asacol, it said on the paper from Thrifty’s to contact your doctor if they come out whole, it must be a common problem.    I have been using Asocol for the last few weeks but can not digest them.They can be in my system for more than 24 hrs and still be a whole.Has anyone had this problem and what are some tips.Breaking them up has failed also.Do the makers of Asocol have a web page? Asacol is not meant to be broken before taking, they are designed to break down in the proper area. Also, what you see in the stool may not be the whole pill, it may be only the coating.

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Asacol is a Proctor and Gamble product.  They have a new IBD web area that I did not bookmark but I’m sure you can find it with a search.

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When I got Asacol, it said on the paper from Thrifty’s to contact your doctor if they come out whole, it must be a common problem.

   I have been using Asocol for the last few weeks but can not digest them.They can be in my system for more than 24 hrs and still be a whole.Has anyone had this problem and what are some tips.Breaking them up has failed also.Do the makers of Asocol have a web page?

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Happy Joy, Have you a compounding pharmacy in your town? Compounding is  the making of drugs not just dispensing  them. All pharmacist are capable but few will compound drugs. What is your favorite flavor? Do you want liquid or solid? I have listed the  Professional Compounding Centers of America (PCCA) website. Some pharmacies have e-mail and websites for placing orders. http://www.thecompounders.com Pat – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – When I got Asacol, it said on the paper from Thrifty’s to contact your doctor if they come out whole, it must be a common problem.    I have been using Asocol for the last few weeks but can not digest them.They can be in my system for more than 24 hrs and still be a whole.Has anyone had this problem and what are some tips.Breaking them up has failed also.Do the makers of Asocol have a web page?

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this is pretty normal if you are worried talk to the doctor.  Also, don’t break the pills up unless the doctor told you to do so.  You can talk to you Pharmacist about this but they usually recommend keeping pills whole.

– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text –   I have been using Asocol for the last few weeks but can not digest them.They can be in my system for more than 24 hrs and still be a whole.Has anyone had this problem and what are some tips.Breaking them up has failed also.Do the makers of Asocol have a web page?

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I was warned when I began taking them that thye sometimes passed right through without dissolving (so why are they brown?). You should not under any circumstances break the pills because the very expensive coating is designed to dissolve only in the large intestine.  Ifyou break the coating they will dissolve in the stomach and be useless to you.

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(RMCWEB) writes: I told my consultant and he transferred me to Pentasa which does not have this situation.

With Pentasa, the individual pellets come through looking whole – but that is the way it is supposed to work. (What is really happening is that the expelled pellets have microscopic holes [or at least small enough that you can't see them from any comfortable viewing distance from the toilet bowl] through which the mesalamine spews out. From what I understand, one shouldn’t worry about either asacol or pentasa looking undigested Nancy Non-commercial HOTMAIL, JUNO, or MSN users can contact me at above.

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   I have been using Asocol for the last few weeks but can not digest them.They can be in my system for more than 24 hrs and still be a whole.Has anyone had this problem and what are some tips.Breaking them up has failed also.Do the makers of Asocol have a web page?

What you are seeing "comming out" is the ghost of the structure of the Asacol pill.  The active agent has been leached out in the bowel.  What is left is that ghost. Fas est et ab hoste docerii. C. L. Waltemath

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I had this problem when I was on Asacol, the shell either whole or  partially broken down would pass. I told my consultant and he transferred me to Pentasa which does not have this situation. The medicinal effect I found to be similar, though Pentasa does sometimes cause me headaches. Regards Colin Dalziel

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   I have been using Asocol for the last few weeks but can not digest them.They can be in my system for more than 24 hrs and still be a whole.Has anyone had this problem and what are some tips.Breaking them up has failed also.Do the makers of Asocol have a web page?

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