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The problem is because most GI’s don’t receive enough training to distinguish between IBS and IBD or between the various types of IBD.  For anyone who suffers from any but the most straight forward form of IBD, you need a GI who specializes in IBD, not a run of the mill GI.  Unfortunately, they are few and far between, hard to see, often researchers who have limited patient loads.  My first GI was a generalist and totally missed the diagnosis for a year, mainly due to his ego and not reading test results properly and having a key test re-done.  When the ER properly diagnosed me I found a specialist and have never left him.  He is the one who has gotten me into remission and keeps me there.  He is the one who manages my difficult case. mgbio – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – You are correct, IBS doesn’t lead to IBD.  And I’m sure they went to bad doctors in the first place.  Since in my experience most doctors aren’t concerned with proactive treatment for curing their patients of these diseases,  I’d say they found normal doctors.  Not sure what country you’re from, but here in the states, most people see a General Practitioner (GP) first.  They are generalists, and the current healthcare maintenance organization hierarchy requires them to spend between 7 and 11 minutes per patient, maximum.  So if specifics don’t come up (blood in the stool, etc),  then there is a care gap. http://ibscrohns.about.com/cs/faqsibs/a/ibsfaq.htm quote: "IBS is often misdiagnosed or misnamed as colitis, mucous colitis, spastic colon, irritable bowel disease or spastic bowel (colon).  These misnomers persist, even though IBS is now a recognized and treatable condition. Affecting between 25 and 55 million people in the United States, IBS results in 2.5 to 3.5 million yearly visits to physicians. 20 to 40 percent of all visits to gastroenterologists are due to symptoms of IBS." Since the distinction between was-originally-[mis]diagnosed-with and "became" is moot for the purposes of my example, I feel no need to "remove YOURFOOT."  Some clarifications, however:  My dad had the UC diagnosis for more than five years.  My coworker was visiting a "country doctor" when he was told he had irritable bowel syndrome.  He just kept getting worse and worse, and at some point, he was referred to a specialist, who diagnosed him as having ulcerative colitis.  Every time he was scoped, they saw that the disease was going further up his digestive tract.  (I can’t help but wonder if all the scoping he got wasn’t helping spread his disease upward.)  My instructor was never diagnosed with any other bowel disease besides Crohns.  Most doctors are pathetically uninformed about this subject.  Everyone I know with colon problems (there are more than 3) have all had their diagnoses change.  So one day, a patient may have IBS.  The next doctor they visit may change the prognosis to Ulcerative Colitis.  The following specialist might see it has progressed to Crohn’s.  And finally, it may result in colon cancer.  That doesn’t mean you had colon cancer when you felt the first symptom, Deb. It is quite possible that many doctors today still don’t understand the distinction between IBS and IBD.

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You are correct, IBS doesn’t lead to IBD.  And I’m sure they went to bad doctors in the first place.  Since in my experience most doctors aren’t concerned with proactive treatment for curing their patients of these diseases,  I’d say they found normal doctors.  Not sure what country you’re from, but here in the states, most people see a General Practitioner (GP) first.  They are generalists, and the current healthcare maintenance organization hierarchy requires them to spend between 7 and 11 minutes per patient, maximum.  So if specifics don’t come up (blood in the stool, etc),  then there is a care gap. http://ibscrohns.about.com/cs/faqsibs/a/ibsfaq.htm quote: "IBS is often misdiagnosed or misnamed as colitis, mucous colitis, spastic colon, irritable bowel disease or spastic bowel (colon).  These misnomers persist, even though IBS is now a recognized and treatable condition. Affecting between 25 and 55 million people in the United States, IBS results in 2.5 to 3.5 million yearly visits to physicians. 20 to 40 percent of all visits to gastroenterologists are due to symptoms of IBS." Since the distinction between was-originally-[mis]diagnosed-with and "became" is moot for the purposes of my example, I feel no need to "remove YOURFOOT."  Some clarifications, however:  My dad had the UC diagnosis for more than five years.  My coworker was visiting a "country doctor" when he was told he had irritable bowel syndrome.  He just kept getting worse and worse, and at some point, he was referred to a specialist, who diagnosed him as having ulcerative colitis.  Every time he was scoped, they saw that the disease was going further up his digestive tract.  (I can’t help but wonder if all the scoping he got wasn’t helping spread his disease upward.)  My instructor was never diagnosed with any other bowel disease besides Crohns.  Most doctors are pathetically uninformed about this subject.  Everyone I know with colon problems (there are more than 3) have all had their diagnoses change.  So one day, a patient may have IBS.  The next doctor they visit may change the prognosis to Ulcerative Colitis.  The following specialist might see it has progressed to Crohn’s.  And finally, it may result in colon cancer.  That doesn’t mean you had colon cancer when you felt the first symptom, Deb. It is quite possible that many doctors today still don’t understand the distinction between IBS and IBD.

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Just a note…IBS does not become IBD. They are two separate diseases. Maybe they just went to bad doctors in the first place. Debs – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – What info do you have and do you refer to anti MAP treatment? Yes I’m referring to anti-MAP treatment.  I’m glad most of you have heard of it.  I skimmed some of the newer threads. Anyone interested go to http://crohns.org for info on anti-MAP treatment. My anecdotal experience is this: Patient 1:  My father.  In 1987, he got IBS which became UC in a matter of months.  He lost more than 60 pounds, and you all know how the symptoms go.  He remained on anti-inflammatory drugs (I think?), for 6 years.  In 1993, he got a foot infection which became serious.  He went to another doctor, who prescribed some very strong antibiotics due to the fact that the infection had gotten so serious.  When my father was done with the antibiotics, he noticed he wasn’t running to the bathroom anymore.  He went back to his UC doctor, who ran some checks on him, and found he was in remission.  This doctor’s attitude was to simply shrug his shoulders and say, "Oh well, guess you were misdignosed." Patient 2:  A former coworker.  He got IBS which became UC.  I told him about a radio program I had heard regarding antibiotics.  He was shocked.  He found a doctor in the region who was willing to treat with this method.  He is now in remission. NPR Radio program from 2002, available in RealAudio format: http://www.npr.org/rundowns/segment.php?wfId=1147007 Patient 3:  An instructor of mine.  He ha had Crohn’s with vasculitis for more than 25 years.  His case is rare.  He was a test subject at Duke University in North Carolina, USA.  Hundreds of medical students and professionals studied his case.  He has been in the "medical theater."  He was bedridden fro 11 months when the disease hit him at age 17.  After suffering which includes what I call prednisone addiction (migraine headaches when he tries to step down), he rosacea, etc; he found antibiotic treatment.  I am happy to announce that he is in complete remission – no more symptoms.  Now, unfortunately, he’s hooked on Prednisone, and it appears to be the last great demon of his health, inflicted upon him by an unknowing, and sometimes medieval, medical profession. I wish Crohns sufferers could come to this knowledge sooner. Please don’t let people you know with Crohns go 25 years before hearing of the therapy which will probably cure them.

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What info do you have and do you refer to anti MAP treatment?

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What info do you have and do you refer to anti MAP treatment?

Yes I’m referring to anti-MAP treatment.  I’m glad most of you have heard of it.  I skimmed some of the newer threads. Anyone interested go to http://crohns.org for info on anti-MAP treatment. My anecdotal experience is this: Patient 1:  My father.  In 1987, he got IBS which became UC in a matter of months.  He lost more than 60 pounds, and you all know how the symptoms go.  He remained on anti-inflammatory drugs (I think?), for 6 years.  In 1993, he got a foot infection which became serious.  He went to another doctor, who prescribed some very strong antibiotics due to the fact that the infection had gotten so serious.  When my father was done with the antibiotics, he noticed he wasn’t running to the bathroom anymore.  He went back to his UC doctor, who ran some checks on him, and found he was in remission.  This doctor’s attitude was to simply shrug his shoulders and say, "Oh well, guess you were misdignosed." Patient 2:  A former coworker.  He got IBS which became UC.  I told him about a radio program I had heard regarding antibiotics.  He was shocked.  He found a doctor in the region who was willing to treat with this method.  He is now in remission. NPR Radio program from 2002, available in RealAudio format: http://www.npr.org/rundowns/segment.php?wfId=1147007 Patient 3:  An instructor of mine.  He ha had Crohn’s with vasculitis for more than 25 years.  His case is rare.  He was a test subject at Duke University in North Carolina, USA.  Hundreds of medical students and professionals studied his case.  He has been in the "medical theater."  He was bedridden fro 11 months when the disease hit him at age 17.  After suffering which includes what I call prednisone addiction (migraine headaches when he tries to step down), he rosacea, etc; he found antibiotic treatment.  I am happy to announce that he is in complete remission – no more symptoms.  Now, unfortunately, he’s hooked on Prednisone, and it appears to be the last great demon of his health, inflicted upon him by an unknowing, and sometimes medieval, medical profession. I wish Crohns sufferers could come to this knowledge sooner. Please don’t let people you know with Crohns go 25 years before hearing of the therapy which will probably cure them.

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I am not a sufferer but I know several people who have been afflicted with this illness.  If you are not already aware, many have had success with antibiotic therapy.  I know three people personally who are in remission from this therapy.  Respond if you would like further information.

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If ya’ll could send some get well purrs for Omar; I think we’d both appreciate it.  On Monday night, he got bit on the foot in a spat with Tucker.  We spent several hours at the vet Monday night as a walk-in and he got put on Clavamox.  He’s been much less active although eating well until this afternoon and tonight he’s been under my bed and he didn’t eat (  I talked to my regular vet tonight and we decided to stop the Clavamox; I’m going to call her if he’s not eating tomorrow a.m. Thanks, guys. Christine

You got it, Christine. Ginger-lyn

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If ya’ll could send some get well purrs for Omar; I think we’d both appreciate it.  On Monday night, he got bit on the foot in a spat with Tucker.  We spent several hours at the vet Monday night as a walk-in and he got put on Clavamox.  He’s been much less active although eating well until this afternoon and tonight he’s been under my bed and he didn’t eat (  I talked to my regular vet tonight and we decided to stop the Clavamox; I’m going to call her if he’s not eating tomorrow a.m. Thanks, guys. Christine

Get well purrs to you Omar! Elisabet and Hugo Katt

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If ya’ll could send some get well purrs for Omar; I think we’d both appreciate it.  On Monday night, he got bit on the foot in a spat with Tucker.  We spent several hours at the vet Monday night as a walk-in and he got put on Clavamox.  He’s been much less active although eating well until this afternoon and tonight he’s been under my bed and he didn’t eat (  I talked to my regular vet tonight and we decided to stop the Clavamox; I’m going to call her if he’s not eating tomorrow a.m. Thanks, guys.

Feel better purrs on the way — Steve Touchstone, faithful servant of Sammy, Little Bit and Rocky Home Page: http://www.sirinet.net/~stouchst/index.html Cat Pix: http://www.sirinet.net/~stouchst/animals.html

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Many purrs for Omar helen s –This is an invalid email address to avoid spam– to get correct one remove fame & fortune –Due to financial crisis the light at the end of the tunnel is switched off–

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Purrs on the way ;( Fuga

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If ya’ll could send some get well purrs for Omar; I think we’d both appreciate it.  

   Purrs coming for Omar to get well soon.  Our Hobo was given Clavamox for a bite last year and was so sick with vomiting, lethargy, etc., the vet changed antibiotics.  He was fine after that.  Please don’t forget to let us know how he does.     Jeanne

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– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – If ya’ll could send some get well purrs for Omar; I think we’d both appreciate it.  On Monday night, he got bit on the foot in a spat with Tucker.  We spent several hours at the vet Monday night as a walk-in and he got put on Clavamox.  He’s been much less active although eating well until this afternoon and tonight he’s been under my bed and he didn’t eat (  I talked to my regular vet tonight and we decided to stop the Clavamox; I’m going to call her if he’s not eating tomorrow a.m. Thanks, guys. Aww, poor Omar. Antibiotics can make you feel terrible. I had to quit a course of penicillin half way, because it made me so sick. Many purrs coming over for Omar to feel better soon, and the bite to heal.

A bit of warning here both for the four- and two-legged: it certainly can be necessary to stop a course of antibiotics due to side effects. If the reason for stopping is diarrhea, it really is important to get veterinary or medical advice. In many cases, that side effect can be minor. There is, however, a serious complication of oral antibiotic therapy, pseudomembranous enterocolitis, which is an overgrowth of specific bacteria because everything else was knocked out. If this is the problem — it is especially violent, with cramping and bleeding more often than not — it is essential to get antibiotic treatment for the guts, as well as for whatever else was being treated.  While a relatively rare complication, untreated pseudomembranous enterocolitis can be nastily fatal.

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Thanks for the purrs, ya’ll; I think they’re helping! Last night, Omar wouldn’t come out from under the bed to eat but he did come out to keep me company in the bathtub and he did eat a little this morning! I’m going to keep a close eye on him today and probably check in with my vet later. Christine

– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – If ya’ll could send some get well purrs for Omar; I think we’d both appreciate it.  On Monday night, he got bit on the foot in a spat with Tucker. Aww, poor little boy!  We’ll be hoping and purring that it’s a minor ouchie and that it will heal quickly. Regards and Purrs, O J

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The good news is that your purrs started working even late last night; this morning and this afternoon Omar ate again and stayed out from under the bed! Thank you! His paw is healing very well; the puncture wound was not a deep one, thank goodness!  I did talk to my vet and we both agreed I’d keep a close eye on him but since he’s healing so well, she did not suggest starting another antibiotic at this point, particularly as Omar has irritable bowel disease and we don’t want to mess with his internal flora anymore than we have to! I am so grateful that the Feliway diffuser refills came today; I suspect the level of kitty argumentativeness has risen more than usual because my diffusers had started running out.  I can definitely tell a difference with Tucker with this stuff.  I did use petguys.com, too, and their prices were really good! Christine

– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – If ya’ll could send some get well purrs for Omar; I think we’d both appreciate it.  On Monday night, he got bit on the foot in a spat with Tucker.  We spent several hours at the vet Monday night as a walk-in and he got put on Clavamox.  He’s been much less active although eating well until this afternoon and tonight he’s been under my bed and he didn’t eat (  I talked to my regular vet tonight and we decided to stop the Clavamox; I’m going to call her if he’s not eating tomorrow a.m. Thanks, guys. Christine Feel better purrs on the way as well as "play nice with your housemates" purrs. — Elise (supervised by Gossamer & Jeeves) dragonandthistle at snet dot net

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If ya’ll could send some get well purrs for Omar; I think we’d both appreciate it.  On Monday night, he got bit on the foot in a spat with Tucker.  We spent several hours at the vet Monday night as a walk-in and he got put on Clavamox.  He’s been much less active although eating well until this afternoon and tonight he’s been under my bed and he didn’t eat (  I talked to my regular vet tonight and we decided to stop the Clavamox; I’m going to call her if he’s not eating tomorrow a.m. Thanks, guys. Christine

this sounds serious. Like maybe he is also depressed. I hope the bite heals soon without any complications. And I pray that he soon regains his joy in life. What caused the spat? Does Tucker need help to mellow out? — CATherine

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If ya’ll could send some get well purrs for Omar; I think we’d both appreciate it.  On Monday night, he got bit on the foot in a spat with Tucker.  We spent several hours at the vet Monday night as a walk-in and he got put on Clavamox.  He’s been much less active although eating well until this afternoon and tonight he’s been under my bed and he didn’t eat (  I talked to my regular vet tonight and we decided to stop the Clavamox; I’m going to call her if he’s not eating tomorrow a.m. Thanks, guys. Christine

Poor little feller.  Purrs on the way. Theresa Stinky Pictures: http://community.webshots.com/album/125591586JWEFwh My Blog: http://www.humanitas.blogspot.com

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If ya’ll could send some get well purrs for Omar; I think we’d both appreciate it.  On Monday night, he got bit on the foot in a spat with Tucker.  We spent several hours at the vet Monday night as a walk-in and he got put on Clavamox.  He’s been much less active although eating well until this afternoon and tonight he’s been under my bed and he didn’t eat (  I talked to my regular vet tonight and we decided to stop the Clavamox; I’m going to call her if he’s not eating tomorrow a.m. Thanks, guys. Christine

oh poor baby. We will purr and pray that Omar starts feeling better soon. Jazz & his mama — Irulan from the stars we came, to the stars we return from now until the end of time.

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Lots of get well purrs for Omar.  Tell him (or Tucker) not to be so argumentative. Tweed

– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – If ya’ll could send some get well purrs for Omar; I think we’d both appreciate it.  On Monday night, he got bit on the foot in a spat with Tucker.  We spent several hours at the vet Monday night as a walk-in and he got put on Clavamox.  He’s been much less active although eating well until this afternoon and tonight he’s been under my bed and he didn’t eat (  I talked to my regular vet tonight and we decided to stop the Clavamox; I’m going to call her if he’s not eating tomorrow a.m. Thanks, guys. Christine

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If ya’ll could send some get well purrs for Omar; I think we’d both appreciate it.  On Monday night, he got bit on the foot in a spat with Tucker.  We spent several hours at the vet Monday night as a walk-in and he got put on Clavamox.  He’s been much less active although eating well until this afternoon and tonight he’s been under my bed and he didn’t eat (  I talked to my regular vet tonight and we decided to stop the Clavamox; I’m going to call her if he’s not eating tomorrow a.m. Thanks, guys. Christine

Aww. Get well purrs on the way.

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If ya’ll could send some get well purrs for Omar; I think we’d both appreciate it.  On Monday night, he got bit on the foot in a spat with Tucker.  We spent several hours at the vet Monday night as a walk-in and he got put on Clavamox.  He’s been much less active although eating well until this afternoon and tonight he’s been under my bed and he didn’t eat (  I talked to my regular vet tonight and we decided to stop the Clavamox; I’m going to call her if he’s not eating tomorrow a.m.

Aww – poor Omar.  Those bites can really make them feel terrible. Does your vet think that Omar got enough antibiotics to prevent infection then?  Maybe wants to try a different one?  I’d just be concerned about that, given how sick and infected I know Chester became after one pretty serious bite.  Chester was dragging around with an infection and high fever and I managed to grab him just before he crawled into this hole in the ceiling to hide.  We’d have had to rip the house apart to get him out of there.  He healed up pretty quickly after he did his round of antibioitics. Healing purrs are coming to Omar tonight!  Keep us posted. Susan M Otis and Chester

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Get well purrs are on their way. Hugs, CatNipped

– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – If ya’ll could send some get well purrs for Omar; I think we’d both appreciate it.  On Monday night, he got bit on the foot in a spat with Tucker.  We spent several hours at the vet Monday night as a walk-in and he got put on Clavamox.  He’s been much less active although eating well until this afternoon and tonight he’s been under my bed and he didn’t eat (  I talked to my regular vet tonight and we decided to stop the Clavamox; I’m going to call her if he’s not eating tomorrow a.m. Thanks, guys. Christine

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If ya’ll could send some get well purrs for Omar; I think we’d both appreciate it.  On Monday night, he got bit on the foot in a spat with Tucker.  We spent several hours at the vet Monday night as a walk-in and he got put on Clavamox.  He’s been much less active although eating well until this afternoon and tonight he’s been under my bed and he didn’t eat (  I talked to my regular vet tonight and we decided to stop the Clavamox; I’m going to call her if he’s not eating tomorrow a.m. Thanks, guys. Christine

poor Omar, hope he feels much better soon! purrs from T&B — :: lewe lewemi at yahoo dot se || cat pics: photos.yahoo.com/lewemi

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He’s been much less active although eating well until this afternoon and tonight he’s been under my bed and he didn’t eat ( I talked to my regular vet tonight and we decided to stop the Clavamox; I’m going to call her if he’s not eating tomorrow a.m. Thanks, guys. Christine

Apetite and healing purrs for Omar. Suz  Macmoosette Thank Heavens There’s Only One =^..^=   =^..^=   =^..^=   =^..^=  =^..^=  =^..^= Waiting for inspiration. Please hold while I contemplate my navel. |__/| (=’:'=) (")_(")

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If ya’ll could send some get well purrs for Omar; I think we’d both appreciate it.  On Monday night, he got bit on the foot in a spat with Tucker.  We spent several hours at the vet Monday night as a walk-in and he got put on Clavamox.  He’s been much less active although eating well until this afternoon and tonight he’s been under my bed and he didn’t eat (  I talked to my regular vet tonight and we decided to stop the Clavamox; I’m going to call her if he’s not eating tomorrow a.m. Thanks, guys. Christine

Purrs on the way for Omar and Sam sends special headbutts. He had his second round of shots on Monday and on Tuesday he was acting the same way…wouldn’t eat, stayed in "his" room all day and night. Fortunately, Wednesday morning his appetite had returned and he’s doing much better.  But he certainly understands how Omar is feeling and sends extra special purrs and headbutts. Julie, Hobbes, Selena, Lacey and Sam

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purrs on the way Ann

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Get Well Soon, Omar Purrs & hoomin best wishes Gordon & the TT — Feline family viewable at: http://community.webshots.com/user/exocat – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – If ya’ll could send some get well purrs for Omar;

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If ya’ll could send some get well purrs for Omar; I think we’d both appreciate it.  On Monday night, he got bit on the foot in a spat with Tucker.

Aww, poor little boy!  We’ll be hoping and purring that it’s a minor ouchie and that it will heal quickly. Regards and Purrs, O J

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Lots of healing purrs for Omar. — Victor Martinez Owned and operated by the Fantastic Seven (TM)

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Purrs for Omar – and for you – are on their way. — Joy "You can never do a kindness too soon because you never know how soon it will be too late." – Ralph Waldo Emerson

– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – If ya’ll could send some get well purrs for Omar; I think we’d both appreciate it.  On Monday night, he got bit on the foot in a spat with Tucker.  We spent several hours at the vet Monday night as a walk-in and he got put on Clavamox.  He’s been much less active although eating well until this afternoon and tonight he’s been under my bed and he didn’t eat (  I talked to my regular vet tonight and we decided to stop the Clavamox; I’m going to call her if he’s not eating tomorrow a.m. Thanks, guys. Christine

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If ya’ll could send some get well purrs for Omar; I think we’d both appreciate it.  On Monday night, he got bit on the foot in a spat with Tucker.  We spent several hours at the vet Monday night as a walk-in and he got put on Clavamox.  He’s been much less active although eating well until this afternoon and tonight he’s been under my bed and he didn’t eat (  I talked to my regular vet tonight and we decided to stop the Clavamox; I’m going to call her if he’s not eating tomorrow a.m. Thanks, guys.

Aww, poor Omar. Antibiotics can make you feel terrible. I had to quit a course of penicillin half way, because it made me so sick. Many purrs coming over for Omar to feel better soon, and the bite to heal. — Marina, Frank and Nikki marina (dot) kurten (at) pp (dot) inet (dot) fi Pics at http://uk.pg.photos.yahoo.com/ph/frankiennikki/ and http://community.webshots.com/user/frankiennikki

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It is common knowledge among hypnotists that many food allergies are

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cured. I’ve cured a bunch of them.

Fuck off, you quack! You’re a killer waiting to strike!

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It is common knowledge among hypnotists that many food allergies are easily cured. I’ve cured a bunch of them.

Leaving aside for the moment the fact that you’re a murderous scumbag with a monstrous ego and zero sense of responsibility, there are two relevant points here. Hypnosis can do nothing to affect the basic immune responses of an allergy, but it can affect learned responses to an allergic reaction, and these can be quite serious.  In the case of terpene inhalant allergies, because the terrifying speed of the basic allergic process unmistakably tells you you could die and why, they can be so severe as to be life-threatening in their own right when you smell the allergen.  They don’t always go away if the underlying allergy is successfully treated by desensitization, so EPD therapists may recommend psychological treatment to get rid of them.  I haven’t seen hypnosis mentioned in this context, and obviously it would have to be by a hypnotherapist a lot more knowledgeable than you and in consultation with the doctor doing the desensitization, but it might just work. Secondly: some mild allergic reactions may well feature histamine responses mild enough that suggestion can get you to ignore them. (It’s fairly hard to ignore not being able to breathe or having large areas of skin slough off with bullous eruptions).  That does NOT mean that suggestion is an appropriate treatment.  Allergies change their manifestations with time; what starts out in childhood as a mild acute response in the form of asthma or eczema may first appear to go away, then over the years develop into irritable bowel disease or arthritis as you eat more and more of the allergen with no *immediate* feedback that it’s damaging you.  Best to treat an allergic reaction as a straightforward warning: "don’t eat that stuff". ========

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Loren <lpa…@toast.net

wrote: It is common knowledge among hypnotists that many food allergies are easily cured. I’ve cured a bunch of them.

Well, I’ll be sure to sit my 2 year old down and let him listen to your tapes…then I’ll feed him a peanut butter sandwich.  Yeah, since he’d be cured.  You wouldn’t mind me suing you afterward, would you?  I mean, I’d throw out the EpiPen cause we wouldn’t need it…he’d go ana, and then… You’re a horrid person, posting this and saying that you can cure food allergies.  It’s hard enough dealing with them, but then quacks say things like this….argh. — It’s Tis Herself

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It is common knowledge among hypnotists that many food allergies are easily cured. I’ve cured a bunch of them. I am now retired and have made experimental voice files for common food allergens. No trance is involved. Messages are about 2 to 3 minutes long. You just listen. I think they will work for many people. I have nothing to sell. I need feedback. Presently I have voice messsages for milk, egg and wheat allergies. When it works it usually works at once, but may need a repeat sometime later. Please check www.psychresearch.com/allergies.html Thanks, Loren Parks

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Listening to you talk will cure the soy allergy I’ve had ever since I was born? Right. I think not. Allergies are physical problems not psychological. Are you trying to say allergies are mental problems? Talking will not cure an allergy any more than it will cure a heart attack.

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I have been told that endometriosis can only be diagnosed with a lapascope which is evasive.  They will check on this Weds while they are in there.  UM MOM Susan During my menstrual cycle i experience stronger abdominal (intestinal)cramping and more bowel movements. I thought it was in my head but every doctor i have had has confirmed that the hormonal fluctuations do affect the degrees of discomfort i have during that time. in some ways it intensifies the existing problems and causes me more anemia as well.

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If I won the lottery I would be pregnant all the time. I absolutely love it! My 2 flares have both been when my kids were about 1, but I did breast feed until they were 9 months and that changes your hormones doesn’t it? But then both times were when I was extremely stressed aswell, so who knows. Mel

– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – If getting pregnant was the cure I’d have to think twice even if it was possible for me to do so. lol

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I think having to take care of a 1 year old may not have helped the stress situation  :-o Jeff 2

– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – If I won the lottery I would be pregnant all the time. I absolutely love it! My 2 flares have both been when my kids were about 1, but I did breast feed until they were 9 months and that changes your hormones doesn’t it? But then both times were when I was extremely stressed aswell, so who knows. Mel If getting pregnant was the cure I’d have to think twice even if it was possible for me to do so. lol

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I did go through the endoscopy procedure to check for endometriosis about 5 years ago (which established that I did not have endo and prompted my OB/GYN at the time to tell me that maybe my symptoms were "psychological"-very helpful!!)  But just because you have IBD doesn’t rule out endo so definitely follow your doctor’s advice about getting itt checked.  :)

Hi Mandy,Though I have cd I have also had a change of menstraul behavior with this disease.  The pain and bowels are magnified extremely.  I even went end up at The University of Miami Hospital to a specialist there for endometriosis (sp?) because it was so severe and they were concerned that this was my problem.  But it was less than a year from my resection and all agreed that evasive procedures was not a good idea to check and see if this was the case.  I am going in next week for my second surgery and they will check then while in there to see if this is a problem and clean it up too if it is.  This can only be checked by a lapascope which is going through the belly button with a scope to check for abnormalities of the uterus.  But you are not alone in this experience at all.  UM MOM Susan

– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Hi- I have had abdominal pain for many years and was just recently diagnosed with having Inflammatory bowel disease/UC.  Does anyone know of any studies (or has personal experience of) the disease being affected by hormones or mestrual cycles?  I always have incredible pain the week or so prior to my period and maybe one or two other "bad" days during the month.  So instead of being treated by a gastroenterologist, I was seeing OB/GYNs and pain control specialists to try and fix what was going on in my gut. Also, my doctor prescribed a 5-ASA for me that seemed to help for the first few weeks that I took it.  However, it does not seem to be working as well now.  I am also concerned about whether I should be taking this medication because I am allergic to sulfa drugs and don’t know if there is sulfa in the med I’m currently taking… Thank you for any information you might be able to provide. Mandy

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Thank you for all the information and support!  It was very much appreciated-I was worried that maybe I was crazy or imagining things.  While this doesn’t make the pain any better, it is still comforting to know that there may be an explanation for why the pain is worse at certain times. Much thanks, Mandy

– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Hi- I have had abdominal pain for many years and was just recently diagnosed with having Inflammatory bowel disease/UC.  Does anyone know of any studies (or has personal experience of) the disease being affected by hormones or mestrual cycles?  I always have incredible pain the week or so prior to my period and maybe one or two other "bad" days during the month.  So instead of being treated by a gastroenterologist, I was seeing OB/GYNs and pain control specialists to try and fix what was going on in my gut. Also, my doctor prescribed a 5-ASA for me that seemed to help for the first few weeks that I took it.  However, it does not seem to be working as well now.  I am also concerned about whether I should be taking this medication because I am allergic to sulfa drugs and don’t know if there is sulfa in the med I’m currently taking… Thank you for any information you might be able to provide. Mandy

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You also might want to try the google archives. This is a topic that comes up every so often and I remember several if not many women having problems at ‘that time of the month’. Debs – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Thank you for all the information and support!  It was very much appreciated-I was worried that maybe I was crazy or imagining things.  While this doesn’t make the pain any better, it is still comforting to know that there may be an explanation for why the pain is worse at certain times. Much thanks, Mandy Hi- I have had abdominal pain for many years and was just recently diagnosed with having Inflammatory bowel disease/UC.  Does anyone know of any studies (or has personal experience of) the disease being affected by hormones or mestrual cycles?  I always have incredible pain the week or so prior to my period and maybe one or two other "bad" days during the month.  So instead of being treated by a gastroenterologist, I was seeing OB/GYNs and pain control specialists to try and fix what was going on in my gut. Also, my doctor prescribed a 5-ASA for me that seemed to help for the first few weeks that I took it.  However, it does not seem to be working as well now.  I am also concerned about whether I should be taking this medication because I am allergic to sulfa drugs and don’t know if there is sulfa in the med I’m currently taking… Thank you for any information you might be able to provide. Mandy

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I just wanted to add that although it seems that for some women their menstrual cycles can have a negative effect on IBD symptoms, she still needs to address the her UC as a distinct issue. It sounds like her doctor was doing that with the 5-asa but if that’s not working then she should work with her doctor to continue to find out what the proper treatment for that is. Thanks, Jeff 2

– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – UC is a whole different thing then obgyn problems. The pain may be be in adjacent areas but affects completely different organs. UC is inflammation of the intestinal lining with the addition of ulcerations which often results in bleeding. This can be is seen in the stool and is usually accompanied by mucus. The intestinal wall sucretes  mucus in an attempt to sooth the lining. In any case this requires much different treatment then gyn issues. I’ve had UC for about 4 years. My first successful medication was an antibiotic. That was before my official diagnosis. After my confirmed dx I was prescribed asacol which seemed to clear it up for a while but then it came back. I finally realized that I need a combination approach. Many people find that certain foods should be avoided. And there are other foods that help heal the intestines. For me I had to limit acidic foods – spicy foods, tomato sauces, coffee, alcohol, chocolate, citrus fruits, even black pepper seemed to exascerbate my symptoms. Also I increased fresh vegetables, salads, and cut back on sugar and refined foods. Along with that I found some nutritional supplements that really help. Chlorophyll is excellent, antioxidants, food enzymes, calcium, folic acid and a good balanced multi-vitamin mineral complex. Also a good probiotic can really help. Probiotics are bacteria shown to have beneficial effects on the intestinal tract. You can get them at most health food stores but they need to be kept refridgerated. I also still take asacol and an antibiotic called Cipro which has been shown to be effective in a number of studies. There is a lot of evidence now that indicates that, for many people, intestinal problems are caused by an imbalance of bacteria. Basically there are good bacteria and bad or pathogenic bacteria in the gut. The methods that work for me do so because they help re-balance the intestinal flora so that the good bacteria can gain the upper hand. Hope that helps. Regards, Jeff 2 yes jeff…i agree with most of this..but the gyn issues and ibd are just too coincidental..even tho the uc/crohns affects one set of organs and gyn is obviously another..i think there is a hormonal interplay…i know my ibd symptoms..even before i was properly dx’d..were always much worse during my period..and often during ovulation too..it wasnt just the pain which feels to be in a similar area..something was going on…i used to think i had some kind of tummy flu every cycle..after i was dx i realized what it was..and now after a hyst its not nearly as predictable..but as i wrote to mandy..i am pretty sure there is still a hormonal thing going on…also..when i was pregnant..the ibd symptoms just about disappeared in the third month..came back around 2 months after i had each child…there has to be something there.. (maybe thats the "cure"? get pregnant? lol) take care annie

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- Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – UC is a whole different thing then obgyn problems. The pain may be be in adjacent areas but affects completely different organs. UC is inflammation of the intestinal lining with the addition of ulcerations which often results in bleeding. This can be is seen in the stool and is usually accompanied by mucus. The intestinal wall sucretes  mucus in an attempt to sooth the lining. In any case this requires much different treatment then gyn issues. I’ve had UC for about 4 years. My first successful medication was an antibiotic. That was before my official diagnosis. After my confirmed dx I was prescribed asacol which seemed to clear it up for a while but then it came back. I finally realized that I need a combination approach. Many people find that certain foods should be avoided. And there are other foods that help heal the intestines. For me I had to limit acidic foods – spicy foods, tomato sauces, coffee, alcohol, chocolate, citrus fruits, even black pepper seemed to exascerbate my symptoms. Also I increased fresh vegetables, salads, and cut back on sugar and refined foods. Along with that I found some nutritional supplements that really help. Chlorophyll is excellent, antioxidants, food enzymes, calcium, folic acid and a good balanced multi-vitamin mineral complex. Also a good probiotic can really help. Probiotics are bacteria shown to have beneficial effects on the intestinal tract. You can get them at most health food stores but they need to be kept refridgerated. I also still take asacol and an antibiotic called Cipro which has been shown to be effective in a number of studies. There is a lot of evidence now that indicates that, for many people, intestinal problems are caused by an imbalance of bacteria. Basically there are good bacteria and bad or pathogenic bacteria in the gut. The methods that work for me do so because they help re-balance the intestinal flora so that the good bacteria can gain the upper hand. Hope that helps. Regards, Jeff 2 yes jeff…i agree with most of this..but the gyn issues and ibd are

just too coincidental..even tho the uc/crohns affects one set of organs and gyn is obviously another..i think there is a hormonal interplay…i know my ibd symptoms..even before i was properly dx’d..were always much worse during my period..and often during ovulation too..it wasnt just the pain which feels to be in a similar area..something was going on…i used to think i had some kind of tummy flu every cycle..after i was dx i realized what it was..and now after a hyst its not nearly as predictable..but as i wrote to mandy..i am pretty sure there is still a hormonal thing going on…also..when i was pregnant..the ibd symptoms just about disappeared in the third month..came back around 2 months after i had each child…there has to be something there.. (maybe thats the "cure"? get pregnant? lol) take care annie

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<snip .also..when i was pregnant..the ibd symptoms just about disappeared in the third month..came back around 2 months after i had each child…there has to be something there.. (maybe thats the "cure"? get pregnant? lol) take care annie

This is from a post I made a little over a year ago, there is a known connection between pregnancy and the severity/activity of some autoimmune diseases, in this case Crohns. "In the US approximately 6.7 million of the 9 million with autoimmune diseases are women.  One possible explanation has been that the sex hormone estrogen may be immunostimulatory leading to greater and stronger immune responses in women.  Also prolactin which is produced in high levels by the anterior pituitary gland during pregnancy in response to estrogen is also believed to play a role. Estrogen and prolactin are both thought to play a role in Th-1(T- helper cell subset one) responses.  This is important because Crohn’s disease is believed to be more of a Th-1 response and ulcerative colitis more of a Th-2(T-helper cell subset 2) response, which may explain why more women might have Crohn’s than men. During pregnancy women usually mount more Th-2 responses than Th-1 responses.  Some other autoimmune diseases such as multiple sclerosis and rheumatoid arthritis which also have a th-1 profile are known to get better during pregnancy while other Th-2 response diseases such as systemic lupus erythmatosus are sometimes known to get worse during pregnancy."

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Hi- I have had abdominal pain for many years and was just recently diagnosed with having Inflammatory bowel disease/UC.  Does anyone know of any studies (or has personal experience of) the disease being affected by hormones or mestrual cycles?  I always have incredible pain the week or so prior to my period and maybe one or two other "bad" days during the month.  So instead of being treated by a gastroenterologist, I was seeing OB/GYNs and pain control specialists to try and fix what was going on in my gut.

<snip Here’s an abstract from a study that did demonstrate a correlation between menstrual activity and IBD symptoms.   OBJECTIVE: Female patients with bowel disease commonly report worsening symptoms in relation to the menstrual cycle. Our aim was to determine the nature of gastrointestinal symptoms correlating with the menstrual cycle in women with inflammatory and irritable bowel disease.  METHODS: This was a retrospective study involving 49 women with ulcerative colitis (UC), 49 women with Crohn’s disease (CD), 46 women with irritable bowel syndrome (IBS), and 90 healthy community controls. Participants were interviewed using a questionnaire including information regarding general health, medication history, pregnancy, as well as premenstrual and menstrual symptoms. Chi2 testing and logistic regression modeling were used to test for differences in frequencies between groups and for risk analysis. RESULTS: Premenstrual symptoms were reported by 93% of all women but statistically more often by patients with CD (p < 0.01). CD patients were also more likely to report increased gastrointestinal symptoms during menstruation ( < 0.01), diarrhea being the symptom reported most often. All disease groups had a cyclical pattern to their bowel habits significantly more than controls (p=0.01). Cyclical symptoms included diarrhea, abdominal pain, and constipation. Logistic regression revealed an odds ratio (OR) of 1.1 (95% CI 0.9-1.2) for experiencing bowel symptoms during the premenstrual and menstrual phases and an OR of 2.0 (95% CI 1.2-3.2) for experiencing a cyclical pattern in bowel habit changes in women with bowel disease. CONCLUSION: The prevalence of menstrually related symptoms is high, and appears to affect bowel patterns. The physiological and clinical effects of the menstrual cycle should be taken into consideration when assessing for disease activity.

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CONCLUSION: The prevalence of menstrually related symptoms is high, and appears to affect bowel patterns. The physiological and clinical effects of the menstrual cycle should be taken into consideration when assessing for disease activity.

citation: Am J Gastroenterol. 1998 Oct;93(10):1867-72.   The menstrual cycle and its effect on inflammatory bowel disease and irritable bowel syndrome: a prevalence study. Kane SV, Sable K, Hanauer SB. Department of Medicine, University of Chicago, Illinois 60637, USA.

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If getting pregnant was the cure I’d have to think twice even if it was possible for me to do so. lol But seriously, thanks, and I agree, hormones do play a big role in controlling organ functions, and it’s good to get the straight poop from someone who’s been there. And I Certainly don’t claim to be an expert on female issues. Interestingly enough however, Chinese Medicine does pay a lot of attention to menstral problems. Their approach is to strengthen the spleen, liver and kidneys. Or improve the energy to these organs. This, of course, may sound strange to western analysis, to say the least, but the intent (according to TCM) is to build better blood. According to their theories, there are different qualities to the blood and by improving the quality you can relieve many internal organ problems such as menstral disorders. I know this is not well understood by science but these techniques seem to work pretty well. I think improving circulation to the area can help too. The way I look at it is that the blood is one of the primary mediums by which healing (tissue regeneration) is made possible. Of course it’s much more complex then that but I thought I’d share this as I have seen efficacy of this approach. Regards, Jeff2

– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – UC is a whole different thing then obgyn problems. The pain may be be in adjacent areas but affects completely different organs. UC is inflammation of the intestinal lining with the addition of ulcerations which often results in bleeding. This can be is seen in the stool and is usually accompanied by mucus. The intestinal wall sucretes  mucus in an attempt to sooth the lining. In any case this requires much different treatment then gyn issues. I’ve had UC for about 4 years. My first successful medication was an antibiotic. That was before my official diagnosis. After my confirmed dx I was prescribed asacol which seemed to clear it up for a while but then it came back. I finally realized that I need a combination approach. Many people find that certain foods should be avoided. And there are other foods that help heal the intestines. For me I had to limit acidic foods – spicy foods, tomato sauces, coffee, alcohol, chocolate, citrus fruits, even black pepper seemed to exascerbate my symptoms. Also I increased fresh vegetables, salads, and cut back on sugar and refined foods. Along with that I found some nutritional supplements that really help. Chlorophyll is excellent, antioxidants, food enzymes, calcium, folic acid and a good balanced multi-vitamin mineral complex. Also a good probiotic can really help. Probiotics are bacteria shown to have beneficial effects on the intestinal tract. You can get them at most health food stores but they need to be kept refridgerated. I also still take asacol and an antibiotic called Cipro which has been shown to be effective in a number of studies. There is a lot of evidence now that indicates that, for many people, intestinal problems are caused by an imbalance of bacteria. Basically there are good bacteria and bad or pathogenic bacteria in the gut. The methods that work for me do so because they help re-balance the intestinal flora so that the good bacteria can gain the upper hand. Hope that helps. Regards, Jeff 2 yes jeff…i agree with most of this..but the gyn issues and ibd are just too coincidental..even tho the uc/crohns affects one set of organs and gyn is obviously another..i think there is a hormonal interplay…i know my ibd symptoms..even before i was properly dx’d..were always much worse during my period..and often during ovulation too..it wasnt just the pain which feels to be in a similar area..something was going on…i used to think i had some kind of tummy flu every cycle..after i was dx i realized what it was..and now after a hyst its not nearly as predictable..but as i wrote to mandy..i am pretty sure there is still a hormonal thing going on…also..when i was pregnant..the ibd symptoms just about disappeared in the third month..came back around 2 months after i had each child…there has to be something there.. (maybe thats the "cure"? get pregnant? lol) take care annie

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Welcome.  You are not alone, my UC symptoms get worse around my cycle.  About 2 weeks before it starts, I get really bloated, a week or so after that, my joints/muscles begin to ache and I get flu like symptoms.  When my cycle begins, these things go away but after I finish, I go through a bout with nausia that lasts days.  I have found nothing to help with the bloating, I take pain killers/go for a massage during times of joint/muscle pain, get lots of rest/relaxation for the flu like symptom and eat/drink very light during nausia with extra digestive enzymes to help things along.  I am 28 years old, it sucks!  I have tried Asacol and Salofalx but currently take Pentasa for my UC with great results.  Good luck to you.

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- Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Hi- I have had abdominal pain for many years and was just recently diagnosed with having Inflammatory bowel disease/UC.  Does anyone know of any studies (or has personal experience of) the disease being affected by hormones or mestrual cycles?  I always have incredible pain the week or so prior to my period and maybe one or two other "bad" days during the month.  So instead of being treated by a gastroenterologist, I was seeing OB/GYNs and pain control specialists to try and fix what was going on in my gut. Also, my doctor prescribed a 5-ASA for me that seemed to help for the first few weeks that I took it.  However, it does not seem to be working as well now.  I am also concerned about whether I should be taking this medication because I am allergic to sulfa drugs and don’t know if there is sulfa in the med I’m currently taking… Thank you for any information you might be able to provide. Mandy

hi mandy welcome to our group.. first question..i dont know scientifically..but i always had worse bouts of ibd with my menstual cycle..so i bet there IS a connection.(i have since had a hysterectomy so that problem is no longer there lol) second question..i too am allergic to sulfa..but i can tolerate the 5asa drugs and am and have been on asacol for a long time..9 a day..i have trouble with 12 a day..and less than 9 does nothing..i am also on 50mg 6mp and currently coming off of pred..on 5-10 daily now.. also relating to question one…when i am in a bad bout i get physically depressed..i am not just talking mood..or that i am upset about being so ill..i actually feel a hormonal change..like the pms kind of depression..i am on hrt anyway..and the blood level was fine..but something happens between the ibd and my hormones and i dont have a clue what or why.. give the 5asa a chance..i dont know which u are on..i didnt get any help from the others, pentasa or colazal..only asacol seems to work for me..but its different for everyone..also call your doctor if u dont think its working..u may need more..or to try a different one..always keep in touch with your doctor..either your gi preferably..or if u have a really great internist who can be a support and help…but someone u can ask anything of and get a decent answer..i found that my great doctors really have helped me a lot over the years..i am not better..in fact i have gone downhill in the last 20 years or so..but i am managing ok…take care….and know u will always have support and info from this group.. annie

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http://www.medscape.com/viewarticle/408847_2 I hope this link works.. i found some valuable information on this site.

– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Hi- I have had abdominal pain for many years and was just recently diagnosed with having Inflammatory bowel disease/UC.  Does anyone know of any studies (or has personal experience of) the disease being affected by hormones or mestrual cycles?  I always have incredible pain the week or so prior to my period and maybe one or two other "bad" days during the month.  So instead of being treated by a gastroenterologist, I was seeing OB/GYNs and pain control specialists to try and fix what was going on in my gut. Also, my doctor prescribed a 5-ASA for me that seemed to help for the first few weeks that I took it.  However, it does not seem to be working as well now.  I am also concerned about whether I should be taking this medication because I am allergic to sulfa drugs and don’t know if there is sulfa in the med I’m currently taking… Thank you for any information you might be able to provide. Mandy

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During my menstrual cycle i experience stronger abdominal (intestinal)cramping and more bowel movements. I thought it was in my head but every doctor i have had has confirmed that the hormonal fluctuations do affect the degrees of discomfort i have during that time. in some ways it intensifies the existing problems and causes me more anemia as well.

– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Hi- I have had abdominal pain for many years and was just recently diagnosed with having Inflammatory bowel disease/UC.  Does anyone know of any studies (or has personal experience of) the disease being affected by hormones or mestrual cycles?  I always have incredible pain the week or so prior to my period and maybe one or two other "bad" days during the month.  So instead of being treated by a gastroenterologist, I was seeing OB/GYNs and pain control specialists to try and fix what was going on in my gut. Also, my doctor prescribed a 5-ASA for me that seemed to help for the first few weeks that I took it.  However, it does not seem to be working as well now.  I am also concerned about whether I should be taking this medication because I am allergic to sulfa drugs and don’t know if there is sulfa in the med I’m currently taking… Thank you for any information you might be able to provide. Mandy

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Hi Mandy,Though I have cd I have also had a change of menstraul behavior with this disease.  The pain and bowels are magnified extremely.  I even went end up at The University of Miami Hospital to a specialist there for endometriosis (sp?) because it was so severe and they were concerned that this was my problem.  But it was less than a year from my resection and all agreed that evasive procedures was not a good idea to check and see if this was the case.  I am going in next week for my second surgery and they will check then while in there to see if this is a problem and clean it up too if it is.  This can only be checked by a lapascope which is going through the belly button with a scope to check for abnormalities of the uterus.  But you are not alone in this experience at all.  UM MOM Susan – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Hi- I have had abdominal pain for many years and was just recently diagnosed with having Inflammatory bowel disease/UC.  Does anyone know of any studies (or has personal experience of) the disease being affected by hormones or mestrual cycles?  I always have incredible pain the week or so prior to my period and maybe one or two other "bad" days during the month.  So instead of being treated by a gastroenterologist, I was seeing OB/GYNs and pain control specialists to try and fix what was going on in my gut. Also, my doctor prescribed a 5-ASA for me that seemed to help for the first few weeks that I took it.  However, it does not seem to be working as well now.  I am also concerned about whether I should be taking this medication because I am allergic to sulfa drugs and don’t know if there is sulfa in the med I’m currently taking… Thank you for any information you might be able to provide. Mandy

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Hi, before I was first diagnosed they thought that maybe it was a problem with my womb. And now just before and during my period I also experience more pain and diarrhoea. Mel

Hi Mandy and welcome.  I’m sorry to hear of your dx.  Yes, many women

experience an increase in symptoms around their menstrual cycles, you are not alone.  Most 5ASA medications contain no sulfur.  Check with your doctor and pharmacist who should both be aware of this allergy.  I, too, have a possible sulfur allergy and have safely taken Pentasa for over 4 years.  It can take several weeks to show an effect.  The first few weeks you may have experienced a placebo effect meaning you improved because your mind believed you would and not because of the medication.  This is a common phenomena, especially with IBD. – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Good luck!  mgbio Hi- I have had abdominal pain for many years and was just recently diagnosed with having Inflammatory bowel disease/UC.  Does anyone know of any studies (or has personal experience of) the disease being affected by hormones or mestrual cycles?  I always have incredible pain the week or so prior to my period and maybe one or two other "bad" days during the month.  So instead of being treated by a gastroenterologist, I was seeing OB/GYNs and pain control specialists to try and fix what was going on in my gut. Also, my doctor prescribed a 5-ASA for me that seemed to help for the first few weeks that I took it.  However, it does not seem to be working as well now.  I am also concerned about whether I should be taking this medication because I am allergic to sulfa drugs and don’t know if there is sulfa in the med I’m currently taking… Thank you for any information you might be able to provide. Mandy

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UC is a whole different thing then obgyn problems. The pain may be be in adjacent areas but affects completely different organs. UC is inflammation of the intestinal lining with the addition of ulcerations which often results in bleeding. This can be is seen in the stool and is usually accompanied by mucus. The intestinal wall sucretes  mucus in an attempt to sooth the lining. In any case this requires much different treatment then gyn issues. I’ve had UC for about 4 years. My first successful medication was an antibiotic. That was before my official diagnosis. After my confirmed dx I was prescribed asacol which seemed to clear it up for a while but then it came back. I finally realized that I need a combination approach. Many people find that certain foods should be avoided. And there are other foods that help heal the intestines. For me I had to limit acidic foods – spicy foods, tomato sauces, coffee, alcohol, chocolate, citrus fruits, even black pepper seemed to exascerbate my symptoms. Also I increased fresh vegetables, salads, and cut back on sugar and refined foods. Along with that I found some nutritional supplements that really help. Chlorophyll is excellent, antioxidants, food enzymes, calcium, folic acid and a good balanced multi-vitamin mineral complex. Also a good probiotic can really help. Probiotics are bacteria shown to have beneficial effects on the intestinal tract. You can get them at most health food stores but they need to be kept refridgerated. I also still take asacol and an antibiotic called Cipro which has been shown to be effective in a number of studies. There is a lot of evidence now that indicates that, for many people, intestinal problems are caused by an imbalance of bacteria. Basically there are good bacteria and bad or pathogenic bacteria in the gut. The methods that work for me do so because they help re-balance the intestinal flora so that the good bacteria can gain the upper hand. Hope that helps. Regards, Jeff 2

– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Hi- I have had abdominal pain for many years and was just recently diagnosed with having Inflammatory bowel disease/UC.  Does anyone know of any studies (or has personal experience of) the disease being affected by hormones or mestrual cycles?  I always have incredible pain the week or so prior to my period and maybe one or two other "bad" days during the month.  So instead of being treated by a gastroenterologist, I was seeing OB/GYNs and pain control specialists to try and fix what was going on in my gut. Also, my doctor prescribed a 5-ASA for me that seemed to help for the first few weeks that I took it.  However, it does not seem to be working as well now.  I am also concerned about whether I should be taking this medication because I am allergic to sulfa drugs and don’t know if there is sulfa in the med I’m currently taking… Thank you for any information you might be able to provide. Mandy

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Hi Mandy and welcome.  I’m sorry to hear of your dx.  Yes, many women experience an increase in symptoms around their menstrual cycles, you are not alone.  Most 5ASA medications contain no sulfur.  Check with your doctor and pharmacist who should both be aware of this allergy.  I, too, have a possible sulfur allergy and have safely taken Pentasa for over 4 years.  It can take several weeks to show an effect.  The first few weeks you may have experienced a placebo effect meaning you improved because your mind believed you would and not because of the medication.  This is a common phenomena, especially with IBD.   Good luck!  mgbio – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Hi- I have had abdominal pain for many years and was just recently diagnosed with having Inflammatory bowel disease/UC.  Does anyone know of any studies (or has personal experience of) the disease being affected by hormones or mestrual cycles?  I always have incredible pain the week or so prior to my period and maybe one or two other "bad" days during the month.  So instead of being treated by a gastroenterologist, I was seeing OB/GYNs and pain control specialists to try and fix what was going on in my gut. Also, my doctor prescribed a 5-ASA for me that seemed to help for the first few weeks that I took it.  However, it does not seem to be working as well now.  I am also concerned about whether I should be taking this medication because I am allergic to sulfa drugs and don’t know if there is sulfa in the med I’m currently taking… Thank you for any information you might be able to provide. Mandy

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Hi- I have had abdominal pain for many years and was just recently diagnosed with having Inflammatory bowel disease/UC.  Does anyone know of any studies (or has personal experience of) the disease being affected by hormones or mestrual cycles?  I always have incredible pain the week or so prior to my period and maybe one or two other "bad" days during the month.  So instead of being treated by a gastroenterologist, I was seeing OB/GYNs and pain control specialists to try and fix what was going on in my gut. Also, my doctor prescribed a 5-ASA for me that seemed to help for the first few weeks that I took it.  However, it does not seem to be working as well now.  I am also concerned about whether I should be taking this medication because I am allergic to sulfa drugs and don’t know if there is sulfa in the med I’m currently taking… Thank you for any information you might be able to provide. Mandy

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Nora – you poor thing, perhaps you can take some solice in the fact that you are not the only here who has had that happen, but I don’t burn my undies, just throw them out. Jeff 2

– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – This evening I was transporting a client in a state car, when I had sharp abdominal pains and nausea.  Very intense.  I started to break out in a sweat and I was shaking.  I was only a couple of minutes from a toilet.  I didn’t make it.  I was incontinent, WITH A CLIENT!!  I had to use her toilet to finish my diarrhea and then rushed out because I had "shit my pants".  As I hobbled out to the car, I couldn’t help but remember an old Irish great aunt who use to mock the way her husband walked, "He walks like he’s  got shit in his pants!" (We weren’t lace curtain Irish.)  Of course the doc says I have very mild Chrons with IBS, so mild I shit my pants.  I haven’t done that since I was four years old, (and of course five other previous episodes with this illness).  I had to rush home, shower, and change my clothes.  The underwear will be burned.  I’m taking immodium, and it’s not holding me.  Thanks for letting me share my (funny?) story. Nora

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Correct, resections make diarrhea worse, at least in my case.

– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – if it’s so bad that these don’t work then you can have a resection.  All these should help with the diarrhea. Resections make diarrhea worse, not better. You lose all that absorptive surface area; that’s especially bad when what you are trying to absorb is bile salts; if you can’t absorb them in the end of the small intestine, as normally happens, they move on into the colon, where they act like (unwanted) laxatives.

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as my flare worsened my GI gave me a sample of NuLev to lessen the cramping that went with the diarrhea. It helped the cramping symptoms a little, but the flare kept worsening. I felt so bad I ended up going the the ER on Aug 3, and spent 22 days in the hospital trying to get better. My symptoms are greatly lessened (no blood in stools, only mild abdominal pain, only 5-6 bowel movements/day), but I’m still not better. NuLev may help some of your symptoms, but it will not likely send your flare into remission. Good Luck! Doug

– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – I see him next Tuesday, and will ask for it.  I want it!!  Thank you very much for the recommendation.    Nora Correction – NuLev is for IBS (Irritable Bowel, not Inflammatory Bowel). I mis-typed.  My GI gave it to me for Crohn’s, however. Geo

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if it’s so bad that these don’t work then you can have a resection.  All these should help with the diarrhea.

Resections make diarrhea worse, not better. You lose all that absorptive surface area; that’s especially bad when what you are trying to absorb is bile salts; if you can’t absorb them in the end of the small intestine, as normally happens, they move on into the colon, where they act like (unwanted) laxatives.

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Before my second resection I was warned that the diarrhoea would be worse. And it is! As NA says it’s because of the bile salts. By the way, just noticed that UK ans US spelling of Diarrhoea seems to be different. Mel

– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – if it’s so bad that these don’t work then you can have a resection.  All these should help with the diarrhea. Resections make diarrhea worse, not better. You lose all that absorptive surface area; that’s especially bad when what you are trying to absorb is bile salts; if you can’t absorb them in the end of the small intestine, as normally happens, they move on into the colon, where they act like (unwanted) laxatives.

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I better pump myself up with tea and get it all out before work.  I work 2nd shift, so I’d have plenty of time.  I requested Lomotil, but the last couple of days, immodium has held me during work.  I’ve lost nine pounds and now weight 123.  I’m becoming nauseous when experiencing diarrhea cramps.  I’m 5′6" and 130 has always been a good weight for me.  I look at myself and see Maria Shriver, all big Irish jaw.  I see my collar bones sticking out and my wrist watch is rolling around on my wrist.  I guess I can really play it up at work.  The suffering martyr coming to work for the good of the clients she serves.  (Maybe I’ll get a better employee evaluation!!  :) – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -Nora- I’ve been there… although only with family and friends. Hang in there…. know that you are not alone.   We can sure relate!

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I see him next Tuesday, and will ask for it.  I want it!!  Thank you very much for the recommendation.    Nora – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -Correction – NuLev is for IBS (Irritable Bowel, not Inflammatory Bowel).  I mis-typed.  My GI gave it to me for Crohn’s, however. Geo

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Nora- I’ve been there… although only with family and friends. Hang in there…. know that you are not alone.   We can sure relate!

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Hey annie, That is oneof the ways that I manage to work while having Crohn’s as well. Isn’t it funny the survival mechanisms that we have to develop.  *LOL* Ann

– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – This evening I was transporting a client in a state car, when I had sharp abdominal pains and nausea.  Very intense.  I started to break out in a sweat and I was shaking.  I was only a couple of minutes from a toilet.  I didn’t make it.  I was incontinent, WITH A CLIENT!!  I had to use her toilet to finish my diarrhea and then rushed out because I had "shit my pants".  As I hobbled out to the car, I couldn’t help but remember an old Irish great aunt who use to mock the way her husband walked, "He walks like he’s  got shit in his pants!" (We weren’t lace curtain Irish.)  Of course the doc says I have very mild Chrons with IBS, so mild I shit my pants.  I haven’t done that since I was four years old, (and of course five other previous episodes with this illness).  I had to rush home, shower, and change my clothes.  The underwear will be burned.  I’m taking immodium, and it’s not holding me.  Thanks for letting me share my (funny?) story. Nora hi nora you poor thing..it must have been horrid..am glad u can see the humor? in it lol i have only shit in my pants once recently and that was last week when i went into a flare….immodium didnt hold me either…its gotta be ther worst feeling..but luckily i was home…just with my husband who totally understands..and could shower and change and wash my stuff in the machine.. all i can suggest..is what i used ot do when i used ot work…i would get the shits in the early morning..so i drank coffee..lots of it..well before i left for work..spent lotsa time in the john..and went on to work basically empty..by the time lunchtime came my tummy had settled down..(i rarely get the craps later than noon..tho last week it was evening lol)…but this cleaning out with coffee seemed to get me thru several years of working with ibd.. take care annie

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Hi Geo!  I use NuLev for general or mild cramping and bloating, and Levbid for more severe problems.  They’re both the same main ingredient (hyoscyamine) just different strengths, and work wonders for me.   Hope it works for you when necessary. Christine CD

– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Has anyone tried NuLev?  I saw my GI a few days ago and she gave me free samples of it to try.  When you feel pain, bloating and diarrhea coming on you disolve a tablet under your tongue (takes just a few seconds) and it is supposed to provide immediate relief.  Says on the package it is for diarrhea associated with IBS (inflammatory bowel) but I have mild Crohn’s and it was reccomended to me.  I havn’t tried it yet because I don’t have that problem very often. Geo

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- Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – This evening I was transporting a client in a state car, when I had sharp abdominal pains and nausea.  Very intense.  I started to break out in a sweat and I was shaking.  I was only a couple of minutes from a toilet.  I didn’t make it.  I was incontinent, WITH A CLIENT!!  I had to use her toilet to finish my diarrhea and then rushed out because I had "shit my pants".  As I hobbled out to the car, I couldn’t help but remember an old Irish great aunt who use to mock the way her husband walked, "He walks like he’s  got shit in his pants!" (We weren’t lace curtain Irish.)  Of course the doc says I have very mild Chrons with IBS, so mild I shit my pants.  I haven’t done that since I was four years old, (and of course five other previous episodes with this illness).  I had to rush home, shower, and change my clothes.  The underwear will be burned.  I’m taking immodium, and it’s not holding me.  Thanks for letting me share my (funny?) story. Nora

hi nora you poor thing..it must have been horrid..am glad u can see the humor? in it lol i have only shit in my pants once recently and that was last week when i went into a flare….immodium didnt hold me either…its gotta be ther worst feeling..but luckily i was home…just with my husband who totally understands..and could shower and change and wash my stuff in the machine.. all i can suggest..is what i used ot do when i used ot work…i would get the shits in the early morning..so i drank coffee..lots of it..well before i left for work..spent lotsa time in the john..and went on to work basically empty..by the time lunchtime came my tummy had settled down..(i rarely get the craps later than noon..tho last week it was evening lol)…but this cleaning out with coffee seemed to get me thru several years of working with ibd.. take care annie

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These are good suggestions but you most find the cause of the diarrhea and treat the cause not the symptoms.  If you’re not on a steroid you could start that right away.  6MP is good for the long term.  And if it’s so bad that these don’t work then you can have a resection.  All these should help with the diarrhea.  If you just try to stop the diarrhea itself, the CD could just get worse and worse.

– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Thank you all for your great responses.  I had a colonoscopy six weeks ago, and I seem to have become sicker since then.  I was put on Clinidian and Immodium, but am going to ask for Lomotil tomorrow.  I will take Ann’s suggestion of extra panty liners and personal wipes. That is a great idea and I will persue this immediately.  Thank you everyone.   Nora This evening I was transporting a client in a state car, when I had sharp abdominal pains and nausea.  Very intense.  I started to break out in a sweat and I was shaking.  I was only a couple of minutes from a toilet.  I didn’t make it.  I was incontinent, WITH A CLIENT!!  I had to use her toilet to finish my diarrhea and then rushed out because I had "shit my pants".  As I hobbled out to the car, I couldn’t help but remember an old Irish great aunt who use to mock the way her husband walked, "He walks like he’s  got shit in his pants!" (We weren’t lace curtain Irish.)  Of course the doc says I have very mild Chrons with IBS, so mild I shit my pants.  I haven’t done that since I was four years old, (and of course five other previous episodes with this illness).  I had to rush home, shower, and change my clothes.  The underwear will be burned.  I’m taking immodium, and it’s not holding me.  Thanks for letting me share my (funny?) story. Nora

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Thank you all for your great responses.  I had a colonoscopy six weeks ago, and I seem to have become sicker since then.  I was put on Clinidian and Immodium, but am going to ask for Lomotil tomorrow.  I will take Ann’s suggestion of extra panty liners and personal wipes. That is a great idea and I will persue this immediately.  Thank you everyone.   Nora – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – This evening I was transporting a client in a state car, when I had sharp abdominal pains and nausea.  Very intense.  I started to break out in a sweat and I was shaking.  I was only a couple of minutes from a toilet.  I didn’t make it.  I was incontinent, WITH A CLIENT!!  I had to use her toilet to finish my diarrhea and then rushed out because I had "shit my pants".  As I hobbled out to the car, I couldn’t help but remember an old Irish great aunt who use to mock the way her husband walked, "He walks like he’s  got shit in his pants!" (We weren’t lace curtain Irish.)  Of course the doc says I have very mild Chrons with IBS, so mild I shit my pants.  I haven’t done that since I was four years old, (and of course five other previous episodes with this illness).  I had to rush home, shower, and change my clothes.  The underwear will be burned.  I’m taking immodium, and it’s not holding me.  Thanks for letting me share my (funny?) story. Nora

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Has anyone tried NuLev?  I saw my GI a few days ago and she gave me free samples of it to try.  When you feel pain, bloating and diarrhea coming on you disolve a tablet under your tongue (takes just a few seconds) and it is supposed to provide immediate relief.  Says on the package it is for diarrhea associated with IBS (inflammatory bowel) but I have mild Crohn’s and it was reccomended to me.  I havn’t tried it yet because I don’t have that problem very often. Geo

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Correction – NuLev is for IBS (Irritable Bowel, not Inflammatory Bowel).  I mis-typed.  My GI gave it to me for Crohn’s, however. Geo

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Never tried it so let us know how it works when you need to take it.  Just so you know IBS is irritable syndrome not irritable bowel disease.  UM MOM Susan

– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Has anyone tried NuLev?  I saw my GI a few days ago and she gave me free samples of it to try.  When you feel pain, bloating and diarrhea coming on you disolve a tablet under your tongue (takes just a few seconds) and it is supposed to provide immediate relief.  Says on the package it is for diarrhea associated with IBS (inflammatory bowel) but I have mild Crohn’s and it was reccomended to me.  I havn’t tried it yet because I don’t have that problem very often. Geo

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ann, you are a very sweet person with great ideas. thank you for contributing. -mari – Path: tor-nn1.netcom.ca!tor-nx1.netcom.ca!newspeer.radix.net!news- spur1.maxwell.syr.edu!news.maxwell.syr.edu!nntp.abs.net! newsfeed2.telusplanet.net!newsfeed.telus.net!edtnps84.POSTED!not-for-mail – Newsgroups: alt.support.crohns-colitis – Lines: 49 – X-Priority: 3 – X-MSMail-Priority: Normal – X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1158 – X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1165 – NNTP-Posting-Host: 161.184.180.65 – Xref: tor-nx1.netcom.ca alt.support.crohns-colitis:279552 – – Nora, – – That really sucks.  I know that I have had many very close calls in similar – situations, but it has never happened when I was with a client.  It has when – I have been by myself though…I have been lucky. – – I think that it is a good idea to look at a more effective antidiareal (sp?) – medication.  I also always use extra coverage panty liners, so if it is a – mild accident, I can run to a bathroom and get rid of the evidence before it – becomes an issue.  I carry extra panty liners and moist flushable wipes in – my purse at all times.  That way, I can also clean myself up. – – By the way, it doesn’t sound to me as if your Crohn’s is all that mild. – Perhaps you need to talk to your Doc about this.  When is the last time that – you had a colonoscopy? – – I noticed that your post was called "My worst fear happened!"  Isn’t it – amazing how we can survive what we are most scared of?  I put experiences – like that under the that which does not kill you makes you stronger – category.  That is probably why people with IBD are so strong! – – *HUGS* – – Ann – – – – – –

– This evening I was transporting a client in a state car, when I had – sharp abdominal pains and nausea.  Very intense.  I started to break – out in a sweat and I was shaking.  I was only a couple of minutes from – a toilet.  I didn’t make it.  I was incontinent, WITH A CLIENT!!  I – had to use her toilet to finish my diarrhea and then rushed out – because I had "shit my pants".  As I hobbled out to the car, I – couldn’t help but remember an old Irish great aunt who use to mock the – way her husband walked, "He walks like he’s  got shit in his pants!" – (We weren’t lace curtain Irish.)  Of course the doc says I have very – mild Chrons with IBS, so mild I shit my pants.  I haven’t done that – since I was four years old, (and of course five other previous – episodes with this illness).  I had to rush home, shower, and change – my clothes.  The underwear will be burned.  I’m taking immodium, and – it’s not holding me.  Thanks for letting me share my (funny?) story. – Nora – –

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Yep. Been there. Done that. As it were.

– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – This evening I was transporting a client in a state car, when I had sharp abdominal pains and nausea.  Very intense.  I started to break out in a sweat and I was shaking.  I was only a couple of minutes from a toilet.  I didn’t make it.  I was incontinent, WITH A CLIENT!!  I had to use her toilet to finish my diarrhea and then rushed out because I had "shit my pants".  As I hobbled out to the car, I couldn’t help but remember an old Irish great aunt who use to mock the way her husband walked, "He walks like he’s  got shit in his pants!" (We weren’t lace curtain Irish.)  Of course the doc says I have very mild Chrons with IBS, so mild I shit my pants.  I haven’t done that since I was four years old, (and of course five other previous episodes with this illness).  I had to rush home, shower, and change my clothes.  The underwear will be burned.  I’m taking immodium, and it’s not holding me.  Thanks for letting me share my (funny?) story. Nora

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that happened to me once when i was sightseeing with a boyfriend. i wasnt anywhere near home and i was totally miserable. it really is the worst nightmare isnt it? -mari – Path: tor-nn1.netcom.ca!tor-nx1.netcom.ca!priapus.visi.com!news- out.visi.com!green.readfreenews.net!news.readfreenews.net!cox.net!news- xfer.cox.net!in.100proofnews.com!in.100proofnews.com!prodigy.com! newsmst01.news.prodigy.com!prodigy.com!postmaster.news.prodigy.com! newssvr31.news.prodigy.com.POSTED!e526535b!not-for-mail – Newsgroups: alt.support.crohns-colitis – X-Newsreader: Forte Agent 1.91/32.564 – MIME-Version: 1.0 – Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii – Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit – Lines: 15 – NNTP-Posting-Host: 64.252.96.189 – X-Trace: newssvr31.news.prodigy.com 1062389702 ST000 64.252.96.189 (Mon, 01 Sep 2003 00:15:02 EDT) – Organization: SBC http://yahoo.sbc.com – X-UserInfo1: [[^D^JVUC[[LJKD]_LAPJYZTBMV [0;1;40;36mLWQHBATBTSUBYFWEAE – Xref: tor-nx1.netcom.ca alt.support.crohns-colitis:279531 – – This evening I was transporting a client in a state car, when I had – sharp abdominal pains and nausea.  Very intense.  I started to break – out in a sweat and I was shaking.  I was only a couple of minutes from – a toilet.  I didn’t make it.  I was incontinent, WITH A CLIENT!!  I – had to use her toilet to finish my diarrhea and then rushed out – because I had "shit my pants".  As I hobbled out to the car, I – couldn’t help but remember an old Irish great aunt who use to mock the – way her husband walked, "He walks like he’s  got shit in his pants!" – (We weren’t lace curtain Irish.)  Of course the doc says I have very – mild Chrons with IBS, so mild I shit my pants.  I haven’t done that – since I was four years old, (and of course five other previous – episodes with this illness).  I had to rush home, shower, and change – my clothes.  The underwear will be burned.  I’m taking immodium, and – it’s not holding me.  Thanks for letting me share my (funny?) story. – Nora

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Hi Nora!  I’m so sorry that happened to you!  That must have been horrible!  Take care!!!! Marlena – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – This evening I was transporting a client in a state car, when I had sharp abdominal pains and nausea.  Very intense.  I started to break out in a sweat and I was shaking.  I was only a couple of minutes from a toilet.  I didn’t make it.  I was incontinent, WITH A CLIENT!!  I had to use her toilet to finish my diarrhea and then rushed out because I had "shit my pants".  As I hobbled out to the car, I couldn’t help but remember an old Irish great aunt who use to mock the way her husband walked, "He walks like he’s  got shit in his pants!" (We weren’t lace curtain Irish.)  Of course the doc says I have very mild Chrons with IBS, so mild I shit my pants.  I haven’t done that since I was four years old, (and of course five other previous episodes with this illness).  I had to rush home, shower, and change my clothes.  The underwear will be burned.  I’m taking immodium, and it’s not holding me.  Thanks for letting me share my (funny?) story. Nora

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Nora, That really sucks.  I know that I have had many very close calls in similar situations, but it has never happened when I was with a client.  It has when I have been by myself though…I have been lucky. I think that it is a good idea to look at a more effective antidiareal (sp?) medication.  I also always use extra coverage panty liners, so if it is a mild accident, I can run to a bathroom and get rid of the evidence before it becomes an issue.  I carry extra panty liners and moist flushable wipes in my purse at all times.  That way, I can also clean myself up. By the way, it doesn’t sound to me as if your Crohn’s is all that mild. Perhaps you need to talk to your Doc about this.  When is the last time that you had a colonoscopy? I noticed that your post was called "My worst fear happened!"  Isn’t it amazing how we can survive what we are most scared of?  I put experiences like that under the that which does not kill you makes you stronger category.  That is probably why people with IBD are so strong! *HUGS* Ann

– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – This evening I was transporting a client in a state car, when I had sharp abdominal pains and nausea.  Very intense.  I started to break out in a sweat and I was shaking.  I was only a couple of minutes from a toilet.  I didn’t make it.  I was incontinent, WITH A CLIENT!!  I had to use her toilet to finish my diarrhea and then rushed out because I had "shit my pants".  As I hobbled out to the car, I couldn’t help but remember an old Irish great aunt who use to mock the way her husband walked, "He walks like he’s  got shit in his pants!" (We weren’t lace curtain Irish.)  Of course the doc says I have very mild Chrons with IBS, so mild I shit my pants.  I haven’t done that since I was four years old, (and of course five other previous episodes with this illness).  I had to rush home, shower, and change my clothes.  The underwear will be burned.  I’m taking immodium, and it’s not holding me.  Thanks for letting me share my (funny?) story. Nora

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I took Lomotil for years. It is effective, but the body builds a tolerance to it, and I had to keep taking larger and larger doses to achieve the same effect. But it’s a logical place to start, in an attempt to control your diarrhea. However, I think incontinence is a good indication of your need for the gold standard of antidiarrheals: deodorized tincture of opium, or DTO. My doc gave me a prescription for it years ago, after a couple incidents like yours. It genuinely improved my life. The correct dose will give me four or more hours of no trips to the toilet, with 90% to 95% reliability. Its additional benefit is that it’s by far the cheapest antidiarrheal per dose, even if your health insurance won’t pay for it (and it probably won’t). The down side is that it is an opiate, and subject to abuse by people who tend to abuse those sorts of things. But I notice no "mental" effects at all with my normal dose, and I drive all the time with it on board, so to speak. I accidentally took a double dose one time, and it just made me sleepy for a few hours. Wayne Marsh       Minneapolis, Minnesota, USA

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Nora, are you taking anything for this D?  Immodium, cholestrymine?

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I take two colestid per day (two sachets I use the powder form) and it really helps.  What medicines are you on?  There’s lots you can do for the big D.

– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – This evening I was transporting a client in a state car, when I had sharp abdominal pains and nausea.  Very intense.  I started to break out in a sweat and I was shaking.  I was only a couple of minutes from a toilet.  I didn’t make it.  I was incontinent, WITH A CLIENT!!  I had to use her toilet to finish my diarrhea and then rushed out because I had "shit my pants".  As I hobbled out to the car, I couldn’t help but remember an old Irish great aunt who use to mock the way her husband walked, "He walks like he’s  got shit in his pants!" (We weren’t lace curtain Irish.)  Of course the doc says I have very mild Chrons with IBS, so mild I shit my pants.  I haven’t done that since I was four years old, (and of course five other previous episodes with this illness).  I had to rush home, shower, and change my clothes.  The underwear will be burned.  I’m taking immodium, and it’s not holding me.  Thanks for letting me share my (funny?) story. Nora

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This evening I was transporting a client in a state car, when I had sharp abdominal pains and nausea.  Very intense.  I started to break out in a sweat and I was shaking.  I was only a couple of minutes from a toilet.  I didn’t make it.  I was incontinent, WITH A CLIENT!!  I had to use her toilet to finish my diarrhea and then rushed out because I had "shit my pants".  As I hobbled out to the car, I couldn’t help but remember an old Irish great aunt who use to mock the way her husband walked, "He walks like he’s  got shit in his pants!" (We weren’t lace curtain Irish.)  Of course the doc says I have very mild Chrons with IBS, so mild I shit my pants.  I haven’t done that since I was four years old, (and of course five other previous episodes with this illness).  I had to rush home, shower, and change my clothes.  The underwear will be burned.  I’m taking immodium, and it’s not holding me.  Thanks for letting me share my (funny?) story. Nora

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I mean is it one of the good carbs like whole wheat and oatmeal, or bad carbs like white bread? Probably obvious considering the name, but they always tell you you can’t trust it just because it says wheat.

Horrible unadultrated carbs blowin’ out yr ass! tom

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I guess what I’m trying to say is that I’m losing weight (averaging 1-2 pounds/week) in spite of many obstacles.  If I can lose weight, anyone can. Yvonne 287/252/130 – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -Anyway my low carb story is boring.

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Hiya back! Sorry about the e-mail.  It’s not munged.  Shouldn’t have had a problem.   Anyway my low carb story is boring.  But I’ll go back 6-7 years ago. I weighed 300 pounds then.  Went low fat (always hungry).  And exercised 2 1/2 hours a day.  Alternating step aerobics, walking, swimming, weightlifting.  I lost 100 pounds.  Suddenly, I couldn’t exercise anymore.  Too exhausted, out of breath.  Without exercising, it was easy to quit my diet. I gained most of my weight back.  Then I started losing again.  72 pounds in 6 weeks.  Ended up in the hospital.  I had Graves Disease (hyperthyroidism).  I ended up swallowing radioactive iodine to slow (damage) my thyroid.  Some cure huh?  And now I am hypothyroid.  I gained all that weight back plus. I also became ill with Fibromyalgia, Myofascial Pain Disease, and Irritable Bowel Disease-Constipation. A friend of mine started Atkins last year.  She lost 40 pounds in 4 months.  I was impressed with her weight loss but not the diet.  I figured Dr. Atkins was another scam artist who just wanted my money. Until I saw him on Phil Donahue.  I was impressed with his answers and the Duke University study.  I bought his books.  Mom and I started Atkins that week (2-7-03).  The first week of Induction was hell for me.  But I stuck with it.  Probably never would have if I had been going it alone.  It does get easier as time goes by.  Don’t miss sugar, flour. ect.  We indulge, but it’s fruit, not sweets.  This past month, I’ve stopped looking at it as a diet and more as a way of life. My daily carb intake is 30-35 grams. Exercise is another matter.  For me exercise = pain.  So I’ve been going slow and easy.  3 pound dumbells when I watch tv.  And swims/walks in the Bay.  One day, I hope to use my Pilates DVD. How’s that?  I’ll bet it’s more information than you wanted. Nice to meet you. Yvonne 287/252/130 – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Hi Yvonne, Sent you an e-mail yesterday but it was returned so I am glad I’ve found you again here. Just wanted to thank you for the info from yesterday. From your stats I would love to here your story of weight loss. Thanks again.

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    I mean is it one of the good carbs like whole wheat and oatmeal, or bad carbs like white bread? Probably obvious considering the name, but they always tell you you can’t trust it just because it says wheat. — I Am An Egotist, But I Compensate For It By Being Great

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Try make a low carb version: Dream of Wheat 1 T flax seed, ground to meal 2 T whey protein powder (plain is fine) 1 T unprocessed wheat bran 2 T Splenda 1/4 t salt 2/3 cup water 1.) Mix it, removing any lumps. 2.) Nuke it a minute. 3.) Stir. 4.) Nuke it another minute (watch for boilovers). 5.) Stir. 6.) Add 2 T coconut milk.* 7.) Stir. 8.) Nuke another 20 or 30 seconds, watching for boilovers. 9.) Eat. *If you don’t have or like coconut milk, use heavy cream, and add flavoring like vanilla extract, cinnamon, or whatever you desire. This tastes very good. Yvonne 287/252/130 – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text –    I mean is it one of the good carbs like whole wheat and oatmeal, or bad carbs like white bread? Probably obvious considering the name, but they always tell you you can’t trust it just because it says wheat. — I Am An Egotist, But I Compensate For It By Being Great

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how about instead of lumping foods into "good" or "bad" categories, you read the label and see if it can fit into your plan. Ellen – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text –     I mean is it one of the good carbs like whole wheat and oatmeal, or bad carbs like white bread? Probably obvious considering the name, but they always tell you you can’t trust it just because it says wheat.

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It is high-glycemic like white bread. Cookie – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text –     I mean is it one of the good carbs like whole wheat and oatmeal, or bad carbs like white bread? Probably obvious considering the name, but they always tell you you can’t trust it just because it says wheat.

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Hi Yvonne, Sent you an e-mail yesterday but it was returned so I am glad I’ve found you again here. Just wanted to thank you for the info from yesterday. From your stats I would love to here your story of weight loss. Thanks again.

– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Try make a low carb version: Dream of Wheat 1 T flax seed, ground to meal 2 T whey protein powder (plain is fine) 1 T unprocessed wheat bran 2 T Splenda 1/4 t salt 2/3 cup water 1.) Mix it, removing any lumps. 2.) Nuke it a minute. 3.) Stir. 4.) Nuke it another minute (watch for boilovers). 5.) Stir. 6.) Add 2 T coconut milk.* 7.) Stir. 8.) Nuke another 20 or 30 seconds, watching for boilovers. 9.) Eat. *If you don’t have or like coconut milk, use heavy cream, and add flavoring like vanilla extract, cinnamon, or whatever you desire. This tastes very good. Yvonne 287/252/130    I mean is it one of the good carbs like whole wheat and oatmeal, or bad carbs like white bread? Probably obvious considering the name, but they always tell you you can’t trust it just because it says wheat. — I Am An Egotist, But I Compensate For It By Being Great

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Hi, I am in desparate need of advice. I am 31, male with no other real health problems than the bloating and constipation that began a year ago. I have seen a GI doctor who tried Zelnorm and other things which did not work. I had a normal barium enema. I get smelly gas if I go a

Drink milk?  Caffeine?  Balanced diet, with fresh fruit and veggies?  Get your problem checked out thoroughly, then work on lifestyle changes if there is a need.  Regular exercise, plenty of fluids, stress reduction if indicated.  All can affect how your bod works.

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– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -Hi, I am in desparate need of advice. I am 31, male with no other real health problems than the bloating and constipation that began a year ago. I have seen a GI doctor who tried Zelnorm and other things which did not work. I had a normal barium enema. I get smelly gas if I go a few days without a b/m. (Sorry so graphic). I get really bloated. Stool is soft but sometimes ribbon shapped. Bloodwork normal, normal thyroid, etc. When I get bloated I generally feel very bad and almost like I am depressed. It seems worse after I eat but never really leaves, even when I wake up fist thing in the morning. No blood in stool or anything. This is really starting to get to me and affect my family life. If I have gas I have to run to the bathroom to let it out. I am really afraid of a colonoscopy and have never been given sedation by IV. Needles terrify me but is a colonoscopy needed? Could this be an upper GI problem? If so how would they check that? Should I have both checked? I really need some advice on this. Any help would be greatly appreciated! P.S. This problem stays with me no matter how I change my diet. and I had a sigmoisoscopy six years ago for something else. It was normal. I had 2 transit studies in January which were normal.

Don, First, I’d get another specialist to look at you. So often it’s a matter of just finding the right doctor to help you. Believe me, they are NOT all created equal! What advice did your previous doctor give you regarding getting a colonoscopy or upper GI problem? Did he have any diagnosis? If needles bother you, just close your eyes, or look away. Don’t let a needle fear stop you from getting proper medical care! It’s reasonable that there is a problem. If they don’t find the problem with the colonoscopy or other lower GI tests, then they’ll have to keep testing. Don’t waste a minute more writing to the ng. Get to the doctor’s and find out what’s going on, for sure. Time is of the essence, here! Hang in there, darrz

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– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Hi, I am in desparate need of advice. I am 31, male with no other real health problems than the bloating and constipation that began a year ago. I have seen a GI doctor who tried Zelnorm and other things which did not work. I had a normal barium enema. I get smelly gas if I go a few days without a b/m. (Sorry so graphic). I get really bloated. Stool is soft but sometimes ribbon shapped. Bloodwork normal, normal thyroid, etc. When I get bloated I generally feel very bad and almost like I am depressed. It seems worse after I eat but never really leaves, even when I wake up fist thing in the morning. No blood in stool or anything. This is really starting to get to me and affect my family life. If I have gas I have to run to the bathroom to let it out. I am really afraid of a colonoscopy and have never been given sedation by IV. Needles terrify me but is a colonoscopy needed? Could this be an upper GI problem? If so how would they check that? Should I have both checked? I really need some advice on this. Any help would be greatly appreciated! P.S. This problem stays with me no matter how I change my diet. and I had a sigmoisoscopy six years ago for something else. It was normal. I had 2 transit studies in January which were normal. Don, First, I’d get another specialist to look at you. So often it’s a matter of just finding the right doctor to help you. Believe me, they are NOT all created equal! What advice did your previous doctor give you regarding getting a colonoscopy or upper GI problem? Did he have any diagnosis? If needles bother you, just close your eyes, or look away. Don’t let a needle fear stop you from getting proper medical care! It’s reasonable that there is a problem. If they don’t find the problem with the colonoscopy or other lower GI tests, then they’ll have to keep testing. Don’t waste a minute more writing to the ng. Get to the doctor’s and find out what’s going on, for sure. Time is of the essence, here! Hang in there, darrz

If, "time is of the essence here" The conventional doctor has had a year. Seems that it might be a good time to look into ways to correct it yourself.Or, go to some Non- conventional Medicine.

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- Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – You can be "’scoped" with an MRI which is non invasive, expensive, noisy, and if you’re claustrophobic, it’s hell. Of course, there are "open" MRIs, that make things easier for the claustrophobics among us. Why don’t you just go ahead and have the exam.  It isn’t going to do you in.  Your doctor will have a diagnosis, and be more able to help you.  Remember, these colonoscopies are done daily throughout the world by thousands of people, so one more (you), is no big deal.  I’ve had two, and get one every five years. Lastly, you very likely won’t remember the actual procedure due to the drugs used that erases a brief portion of your memory for that small time period. Good luck. Will, crna

I’ve had some of the same problems the original poster was complaining of, with a different aversion to a colonoscopy. Some five years ago or so, I got tagged for a civil case jury, where a woman was bringing suit against a laundry list of doctors and providers, after a lousy experience with a "routine" colonoscopy. In her situation, it was really a nut case/neurotic patient problem, but over three weeks of dueling experts’ testimonies gave me the willies… She was less than thoroughly mentally prepared by her primary care MD, possibly overmedicated with a relaxant/paralytic, under medicated with anaesthetic, and possibly not at all dosed with the amnesiac drug. It didn’t help that when she asked her MD if it woudl be painful, he quipped, "No worse than giving birth, heh, heh!" Too bad she had previously undergone a seriously traumatic birth, including a cracked pelvis! In the end, the jury (I was the last standing alternate) took about twenty minutes to throw the case out. Still, the descriptions of the big-time "discomfort", combined with what seemed to me the cavalier attitude of the doctors that the anmesiac would make it all OK, left me reluctant to talk about any kind of ’scope. Dave

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This is very basic, but I would rethink about: Diet Fluid intake exercise All of the above play a part in your problem. If you’re not getting enough fluid, if you’re eating the wrong diet, and if you’re a couch potato, no wonder you’re having problems. You can be "’scoped" with an MRI which is non invasive, expensive, noisy, and if you’re claustrophobic, it’s hell. Of course, there are "open" MRIs, that make things easier for the claustrophobics among us. Why don’t you just go ahead and have the exam.  It isn’t going to do you in.  Your doctor will have a diagnosis, and be more able to help you.  Remember, these colonoscopies are done daily throughout the world by thousands of people, so one more (you), is no big deal.  I’ve had two, and get one every five years. Lastly, you very likely won’t remember the actual procedure due to the drugs used that erases a brief portion of your memory for that small time period. Good luck. Will, crna

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Colonoscopy is very similar to sigmoidoscopy, as far as what to expect. Unfortunately, it’s the best way to see what is really going on.  Nothing replaces direct visual examination of the GI tract. Gas comes from fermentation in the GI tract.  The longer food remains in the intestines, the more it ferments and produces gas.  Intestinal microflora have an influence, as does the presence of constrictions or diverticula that might retain food or slow its transit.  Smelly gas usual contains thiols (similar to alcohols, except they contain sulfer instead of carbon, whence the smell), and is most common on a diet with significant amounts of meat–but much depends on the type of smell.  Ribbon-shaped stool may simply be molded by the configuration of the anus during a bowel movement, so that may not be significant. The GI tract normally functions in a fairly delicate equilibrium; if it gets messed up, lots of unpleasantness can ensue.  Doctors typically worry about neoplasms first, since those are potentially grave, but zillions of other things can go wrong, and your tests to date don’t sound much like a neoplasm, although colonoscopy will confirm this once and for all. Anyway, given that so much else has been tried without effect, it’s understandable that your physician wants to actually take a look.  If he can’t see anything wrong, it might still be difficult to treat, but at least a great many problems will have been conclusively ruled out. – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Hi, I am in desparate need of advice. I am 31, male with no other real health problems than the bloating and constipation that began a year ago. I have seen a GI doctor who tried Zelnorm and other things which did not work. I had a normal barium enema. I get smelly gas if I go a few days without a b/m. (Sorry so graphic). I get really bloated. Stool is soft but sometimes ribbon shapped. Bloodwork normal, normal thyroid, etc. When I get bloated I generally feel very bad and almost like I am depressed. It seems worse after I eat but never really leaves, even when I wake up fist thing in the morning. No blood in stool or anything. This is really starting to get to me and affect my family life. If I have gas I have to run to the bathroom to let it out. I am really afraid of a colonoscopy and have never been given sedation by IV. Needles terrify me but is a colonoscopy needed? Could this be an upper GI problem? If so how would they check that? Should I have both checked? I really need some advice on this. Any help would be greatly appreciated! P.S. This problem stays with me no matter how I change my diet. and I had a sigmoisoscopy six years ago for something else. It was normal. I had 2 transit studies in January which were normal.

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In article I’ve had some of the same problems the original poster was complaining of, with a different aversion to a colonoscopy.

Colonoscopies and sigmoidoscopies are usually very painful for patients with IBS, according to the gastroenterologists who have performed mine. They’re even worse if you have the ‘paradoxic’ response to Versed, and instead of falling asleep or becoming amnesic, it actually keeps you awake. This response is rather rare, making me ’special’ in a really unpleasant way!

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Your symptoms could be Irritable Bowel Syndrome or Irritable Bowel Disease.

There is no such thing as "Irritable Bowel Disease." Irritable Bowel Syndrome is not a disease, though it can feel as though it is killing you. Inflammatory Bowel Disease is the name given to a group of diseases such as Crohn’s Disease and ulcerative colitis, and are unrelated to IBS, though a person can have both. IBS does not cause IBD. IBS can be very painful but is never life-threatening; IBD can be life-threatening as well as painful. IBDs in general are characterized more by chronic diarrhea rather than constipation, though of course individuals can and do vary.

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– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Hi, I am in desparate need of advice. I am 31, male with no other real health problems than the bloating and constipation that began a year ago. I have seen a GI doctor who tried Zelnorm and other things which did not work. I had a normal barium enema. I get smelly gas if I go a few days without a b/m. (Sorry so graphic). I get really bloated. Stool is soft but sometimes ribbon shapped. Bloodwork normal, normal thyroid, etc. When I get bloated I generally feel very bad and almost like I am depressed. It seems worse after I eat but never really leaves, even when I wake up fist thing in the morning. No blood in stool or anything. This is really starting to get to me and affect my family life. If I have gas I have to run to the bathroom to let it out. I am really afraid of a colonoscopy and have never been given sedation by IV. Needles terrify me but is a colonoscopy needed? Could this be an upper GI problem? If so how would they check that? Should I have both checked? I really need some advice on this. Any help would be greatly appreciated! P.S. This problem stays with me no matter how I change my diet. and I had a sigmoisoscopy six years ago for something else. It was normal. I had 2 transit studies in January which were normal. don’t ask for any advice….all you will get is told to talk to your doctor. forget that news groups like this was made for people to get together and offer support and experience. <rant off

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don’t ask for any advice….all you will get is told to talk to your doctor. forget that news groups like this was made for people to get together and offer support and experience. <rant off

It’s amazing how many people seek health care advice from strangers on the internet and are willing to give that advice more credence that the advice the get from their own physician  It is dangerous and irresponsible for a doctor to give specific advice on an internet newsgroup to someone they have never examined. It’s even more dangerous for someone to accept health care advice from someone on the internet about whose credentials they have no clue. HMc

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- Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Hi, I am in desparate need of advice. I am 31, male with no other real health problems than the bloating and constipation that began a year ago. I have seen a GI doctor who tried Zelnorm and other things which did not work. I had a normal barium enema. I get smelly gas if I go a few days without a b/m. (Sorry so graphic). I get really bloated. Stool is soft but sometimes ribbon shapped. Bloodwork normal, normal thyroid, etc. When I get bloated I generally feel very bad and almost like I am depressed. It seems worse after I eat but never really leaves, even when I wake up fist thing in the morning. No blood in stool or anything. This is really starting to get to me and affect my family life. If I have gas I have to run to the bathroom to let it out. I am really afraid of a colonoscopy and have never been given sedation by IV. Needles terrify me but is a colonoscopy needed? Could this be an upper GI problem? If so how would they check that? Should I have both checked? I really need some advice on this. Any help would be greatly appreciated! P.S. This problem stays with me no matter how I change my diet. and I had a sigmoisoscopy six years ago for something else. It was normal. I had 2 transit studies in January which were normal.

don’t ask for any advice….all you will get is told to talk to your doctor. forget that news groups like this was made for people to get together and offer support and experience.

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My sis was just diagnosed with irritable bowel syndrome.  She has gained 25 lbs since Christmas.  The doctor contributes the weight gain to the IBS. She only has bm’s about once every 8-9 days…  She’s been really suffering with this, feeling very sick to her stomach, acid reflux, etc for a long time.  It’s hard for me to believe that IBS could cause such a huge weight gain, but I know how she eats, and she doesn’t eat very much, and what she does it is pretty healthy. Does anyone have first hand experience with this problem?  I’ve been researching, but if you guys have anything you could share, that would be great. det

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– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – My sis was just diagnosed with irritable bowel syndrome.  She has gained 25 lbs since Christmas.  The doctor contributes the weight gain to the IBS. She only has bm’s about once every 8-9 days…  She’s been really suffering with this, feeling very sick to her stomach, acid reflux, etc for a long time.  It’s hard for me to believe that IBS could cause such a huge weight gain, but I know how she eats, and she doesn’t eat very much, and what she does it is pretty healthy. Does anyone have first hand experience with this problem?  I’ve been researching, but if you guys have anything you could share, that would be great. det

There is a difference between Irritable Bowel Syndrome and Irritable Bowel Disease. The first is not as serious as the second. No single cause or cure has been found but control through diet can sometimes help. I have IBS and am having a very bad flare up following a month long bout of flu. I also found coffee and dried fruit were aggravating it. Several foods I have tolerated on the SCD diet for gastro instestinal problems suddenly began to bother me. What I am doing until my system calms down is using animal protein, many fresh cooked vegetables, salad, and a little fruit. I have eliminated much dairy until I feel better. I did experience an almost immediate weight loss and reduction in bloat as a secondary side benefit.  The problem is getting enough calories. (This is not a diet specifically written put by a doctor, but it has worked for me before without medication.  Many allergists suggest similar simplified food plans under the heading of "exclusion diets.") I also did a lot of research on the Internet under "Irritable Bowel Syndrome" but would not venture to speculate on the cause of the weight gain without knowing what ypur sister has been eating or how much. Here is today’s menu: Breakfast; poached egg on whipped cauliflower, pat of butter, asparagus, 1 tbsp. grated Parmesan cheese. diluted orange juice, mint tea. Lunch: Spaghetti sqaush, minced turkey cooked with garlic, onion, mushroom and tomato juice on the squash with a tbsp. grated parmesan cheese, raspberries Dinner: Dry pan grilled King Salmon, butternut squash, green beans, salad, blueberries It means shopping often for fresh fruit and vegetables.  After a week of this, if I feel better I will carefully introduce excluded foods one at a time. She may wish to check out the SCD diet which has helped many. http://www.breakingtheviciouscycle.org/community/communitytoc.html — Diva The Best Man for the Job is a Woman

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My sis was just diagnosed with irritable bowel syndrome.  She has gained 25 lbs since Christmas.  The doctor contributes the weight gain to the IBS. She only has bm’s about once every 8-9 days…  She’s been really suffering with this, feeling very sick to her stomach, acid reflux, etc for a long time.  It’s hard for me to believe that IBS could cause such a huge weight gain, but I know how she eats, and she doesn’t eat very much, and what she does it is pretty healthy. Does anyone have first hand experience with this problem?  I’ve been researching, but if you guys have anything you could share, that would be great. det

my ex has IBS.   ANd part of his prescription is a high fiber diet, and fiber substitutes to help move things along. Also – after years of the problem, they finally put him on anti-anxiety drugs and that has helped ease up the symptoms.   IBS is a stress related illness.   Begin with handling the stress and getting the body to cope better, and you can then work on the other symptoms

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Did you find this site during your research?  Seems to have quite a bit of info but I didn’t see anything that related weight gain to IBS. http://content.health.msn.com/content/healthwise/68/16947

– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – My sis was just diagnosed with irritable bowel syndrome.  She has gained 25 lbs since Christmas.  The doctor contributes the weight gain to the IBS. She only has bm’s about once every 8-9 days…  She’s been really suffering with this, feeling very sick to her stomach, acid reflux, etc for a long time.  It’s hard for me to believe that IBS could cause such a huge weight gain, but I know how she eats, and she doesn’t eat very much, and what she does it is pretty healthy. Does anyone have first hand experience with this problem?  I’ve been researching, but if you guys have anything you could share, that would be great. det

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  HELLO THERE! — read and post daily, it works! rosie I’m tired of all this nonsense about beauty being only skin-deep. That’s deep enough. What do you want, an adorable pancreas? Jean Kerr – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text –

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– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – My sis was just diagnosed with irritable bowel syndrome.  She has gained 25 lbs since Christmas.  The doctor contributes the weight gain to the IBS. She only has bm’s about once every 8-9 days…  She’s been really suffering with this, feeling very sick to her stomach, acid reflux, etc for a long time.  It’s hard for me to believe that IBS could cause such a huge weight gain, but I know how she eats, and she doesn’t eat very much, and what she does it is pretty healthy. Does anyone have first hand experience with this problem?  I’ve been researching, but if you guys have anything you could share, that would be great. det my ex has IBS.   ANd part of his prescription is a high fiber diet, and fiber substitutes to help move things along. Also – after years of the problem, they finally put him on anti-anxiety drugs and that has helped ease up the symptoms.   IBS is a stress related illness.   Begin with handling the stress and getting the body to cope better, and you can then work on the other symptoms

Stress seems to be the root of MANY evils…

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Glad to see you’re still reading us.  Don’t be such a stranger. Beverly

– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – My sis was just diagnosed with irritable bowel syndrome.  She has gained 25 lbs since Christmas.  The doctor contributes the weight gain to the IBS. She only has bm’s about once every 8-9 days…  She’s been really suffering with this, feeling very sick to her stomach, acid reflux, etc for a long time.  It’s hard for me to believe that IBS could cause such a huge weight gain, but I know how she eats, and she doesn’t eat very much, and what she does it is pretty healthy. Does anyone have first hand experience with this problem?  I’ve been researching, but if you guys have anything you could share, that would be great. det There is a difference between Irritable Bowel Syndrome and Irritable Bowel Disease. The first is not as serious as the second. No single cause or cure has been found but control through diet can sometimes help. I have IBS and am having a very bad flare up following a month long bout of flu. I also found coffee and dried fruit were aggravating it. Several foods I have tolerated on the SCD diet for gastro instestinal problems suddenly began to bother me. What I am doing until my system calms down is using animal protein, many fresh cooked vegetables, salad, and a little fruit. I have eliminated much dairy until I feel better. I did experience an almost immediate weight loss and reduction in bloat as a secondary side benefit.  The problem is getting enough calories. (This is not a diet specifically written put by a doctor, but it has worked for me before without medication.  Many allergists suggest similar simplified food plans under the heading of "exclusion diets.") I also did a lot of research on the Internet under "Irritable Bowel Syndrome" but would not venture to speculate on the cause of the weight gain without knowing what ypur sister has been eating or how much. Here is today’s menu: Breakfast; poached egg on whipped cauliflower, pat of butter, asparagus, 1 tbsp. grated Parmesan cheese. diluted orange juice, mint tea. Lunch: Spaghetti sqaush, minced turkey cooked with garlic, onion, mushroom and tomato juice on the squash with a tbsp. grated parmesan cheese, raspberries Dinner: Dry pan grilled King Salmon, butternut squash, green beans, salad, blueberries It means shopping often for fresh fruit and vegetables.  After a week of this, if I feel better I will carefully introduce excluded foods one at a time. She may wish to check out the SCD diet which has helped many. http://www.breakingtheviciouscycle.org/community/communitytoc.html — Diva The Best Man for the Job is a Woman

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Stress seems to be the root of MANY evils…

YES it is! One of the best courses I took in school was a stress management course.   Yeah, it was a blow off, easy A, way to get the credit I needed to graduate.   But it was great to learn alot of stress trigors, reactions as well as ways to deal with it.   Now, that was taken over 10 yrs ago, so now I can’t remember half of what was learned.   But still.  I do recall that stress causes a great deal of health problems.  

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– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Did you find this site during your research?  Seems to have quite a bit of info but I didn’t see anything that related weight gain to IBS. http://content.health.msn.com/content/healthwise/68/16947 My sis was just diagnosed with irritable bowel syndrome.  She has gained 25 lbs since Christmas.  The doctor contributes the weight gain to the IBS. She only has bm’s about once every 8-9 days…  She’s been really suffering with this, feeling very sick to her stomach, acid reflux, etc for a long time.  It’s hard for me to believe that IBS could cause such a huge weight gain, but I know how she eats, and she doesn’t eat very much, and what she does it is pretty healthy. Does anyone have first hand experience with this problem?  I’ve been researching, but if you guys have anything you could share, that would be great. det

Wouldn’t you think it difficult to evaluate the weight gain without an exact record of what was eaten and how much, how often? perhaps the best idea is to try a beneficial diet and see if there is weight loss. — Diva The Best Man for the Job is a Woman

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– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – My sis was just diagnosed with irritable bowel syndrome.  She has gained 25 lbs since Christmas.  The doctor contributes the weight gain to the IBS. She only has bm’s about once every 8-9 days…  She’s been really suffering with this, feeling very sick to her stomach, acid reflux, etc for a long time.  It’s hard for me to believe that IBS could cause such a huge weight gain, but I know how she eats, and she doesn’t eat very much, and what she does it is pretty healthy. Does anyone have first hand experience with this problem?  I’ve been researching, but if you guys have anything you could share, that would be great. det There is a difference between Irritable Bowel Syndrome and Irritable Bowel Disease. The first is not as serious as the second. No single cause or cure has been found but control through diet can sometimes help. I have IBS and am having a very bad flare up following a month long bout of flu. I also found coffee and dried fruit were aggravating it. Several foods I have tolerated on the SCD diet for gastro instestinal problems suddenly began to bother me. What I am doing until my system calms down is using animal protein, many fresh cooked vegetables, salad, and a little fruit. I have eliminated much dairy until I feel better. I did experience an almost immediate weight loss and reduction in bloat as a secondary side benefit.  The problem is getting enough calories. (This is not a diet specifically written put by a doctor, but it has worked for me before without medication.  Many allergists suggest similar simplified food plans under the heading of "exclusion diets.") I also did a lot of research on the Internet under "Irritable Bowel Syndrome" but would not venture to speculate on the cause of the weight gain without knowing what ypur sister has been eating or how much. Here is today’s menu: Breakfast; poached egg on whipped cauliflower, pat of butter, asparagus, 1 tbsp. grated Parmesan cheese. diluted orange juice, mint tea. Lunch: Spaghetti sqaush, minced turkey cooked with garlic, onion, mushroom and tomato juice on the squash with a tbsp. grated parmesan cheese, raspberries Dinner: Dry pan grilled King Salmon, butternut squash, green beans, salad, blueberries It means shopping often for fresh fruit and vegetables.  After a week of this, if I feel better I will carefully introduce excluded foods one at a time. She may wish to check out the SCD diet which has helped many.

We have always eaten a tremendous amount of dairy.  I personally drink about a quart of milk or more per day, plus yogurt, ice cream, cottage cheese, cheddar, etc.  I believe my sister has said that when she started drinking the lactaid ultra milk, her symptoms decreased, so she may have to give up or at least limit dairy intake.  Maybe those lactaid tablets would help her. Thanks Carol! det

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One exercise I was assigned in nursing school when doing an oncology rotation was to find out if my patients had any major stressors in the year prior to being diagnosed with CA.  The vast majority had lost a job, divorced, suffered a death in the family, etc.  It is notable that many people in the same age group as my patients (60+) would have suffered similar stresses but it was a very powerful learning exercise. j

– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Stress seems to be the root of MANY evils… YES it is! One of the best courses I took in school was a stress management course.   Yeah, it was a blow off, easy A, way to get the credit I needed to graduate.   But it was great to learn alot of stress trigors, reactions as well as ways to deal with it.   Now, that was taken over 10 yrs ago, so now I can’t remember half of what was learned.   But still.  I do recall that stress causes a great deal of health problems.

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CAROL !!!! Glad to see you here. Missed you MUCH! Warmly, glo

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hi i not know what is going on here ok but back last web on 17 i went back see my doctor here he has up my pill i am take from 3 a day to 4 a day now ok and when i eat diff thing run through me i not know what is going on and thing.befor i was bleed some show my doctor on my camcroder how thing was doing.so end of this month he want to re check my colon see what is going on and thing.like sat evening here i eat thing kind brother me i could feel it down at my left lowe side where my colon gose over to your rear and thing not know something else could cause thing brother me like that or what.but thing been brother me ever since back on feb the 7.what dose that mean or anyone know what could be going on here what make thing brother me like they are same like when you take your pill they would help some.could it be what i am eating and thing.just not know what to do .thank you anyone can help me any.David

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hi i not know what is going on here ok but back last web on 17 i went back see my doctor here he has up my pill i am take from 3 a day to 4 a day now ok and when i eat diff thing run through me i not know what is going on and thing.befor i was bleed some show my doctor on my camcroder how thing was doing.so end of this month he want to re check my colon see what is going on and thing.like sat evening here i eat thing kind brother me i could feel it down at my left lowe side where my colon gose over to your rear and thing not know something else could cause thing brother me like that or what.but thing been brother me ever since back on feb the 7.what dose that mean or anyone know what could be going on here what make thing brother me like they are same like when you take your pill they would help some.could it be what i am eating and thing.just not know what to do .thank you anyone can help me any.David

David, I am glad you went back to the doctor.  Here is a list of some things that can cause diarrhea. Parasites – too numerous to list Bacteria – too numerous to list Viruses – numerous Pancreas – insufficiency, chronic pancreatitis, cystic fibrosis, other pancreatic problems Hyperthyroidism (note: may increase frequency of bowel movements but not necessarily create a diarrheal stool). Vitamin C (calcium ascorbate) – in excessive amounts Vitamin C – deficiency, scurvy Calcium deficiency – severe deficiency may affect muscles. Magnesium – in excessive amounts (found in chocolate and other foods). Iron toxicity (toxicity means side effects, it does not mean death from). Sugars – lack of tolerance to fructose, sorbitol, or lactose (found in milk). Colon polyps. Crohn’s disease. Diabetes. Celiac disease (gluten intolerance). Gallbladder dysfunction. Some cancers. Multiple sclerosis (although constipation is more common than diarrhea). Lumbar spine nerve problems (can affect both bladder and bowel function) Certain gastric medical procedures (such as truncal vagotomy and gastric drainage procedures). Some surgical procedures involving the abdominal cavity (limited-term diarrhea). Alcohol. Coffee Nicotine may increase diarrhea because of its effects upon the central nervous system. Irritable Bowel Disease. Ulcerative colitis Laxatives Some medications – example, antibiotics OTC drugs – example:  antacids containing magnesium Formula (enteral) tube feeding. Phosphorus – in high doses Malabsorption problems (see also pancreatic insufficiency) post-gastrectomy surgery cholera dysentery Zinc deficiency diverticulosis Constipation – fecal impaction in colon prevents absorption of fluids. Loose stools may give false impression of diarrhea. Medullary Thyroid Cancer Monosodium glutamate (MSG) Food intolerance – spices. Bleeding could be a result of just the physical demands of constipation or diarrhea because straining is common in both.  So hemorrhoids and fissures as a result of constipation or diarrhea could be a cause of minor rectal bleeding.  Of course, polyps, cancer, ulcerations, etc. can cause bleeding too. I don’t know if anyone else has noticed this, but if I can improve the consistency of the stool, it reduces some of the hemorrhoid problems although it doesn’t have an impact on urgency or frequency.  When I get really desperate, I only eat things that I know my guts can deal with such as cooked oatmeal and white rice.  My body seems to tolerate the 7-grain bread sold in our local supermarket pretty well too. Calcium tablets seem to help pretty much.  I’ve used plenty of Immodium in my lifetime with some success but eventually that stopped working (but it took years for that to happen).  Sometimes I take a child’s chewable multi-vitamin because it has a little extra calcium and vitamin C, which I just don’t get enough of anyway. Some of the forms of sugar like sorbitol and mannitol are not digested properly in some people and can give a person diarrhea.  There are a lot of hidden sources of these sugars such as in gum. Hope some of this information helps you, David. Barb – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -

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I’d like to pretend I’m on Wendie’s Plan just for today. Once or twice a year, the local folks in Southern Ontario who follow the SCD diet get together for a Potluck lunch. All the recipes must conform to the SCD diet as our members have Crohn’s Disease, Ulcerative Colitis, Irritable Bowel Disease or Celiac Dusease. Today, in spite of a virtual blizzard, about 20 of us made it to the event, toting the results of our favorite recipes. i started gearing up mentally for this feast a week ago, agonizing about what to bring and how to limit my food intake. I did make it count as lunch and dinner and was reasonably restrained in sampling the main courses but went to hell on the desserts. SCD desserts are rich, made with almond flour and sweetened with honey. I don’t bake for myself and would suffer actual pain if I tried most conventional baked goods.  The ones the others made for SCD were fantastic and I had a small helping of each plus a small second helping of my favorites. I always think something like this is the beginning of the end and I will gain all my weight back so get very strict the following week and especially after a glimpse of Aretha at the Grammys. as she makes Star Jones look like calista Flockhart. The good news was those that never met me guessed my age at about 50. Goldie Hawn is in her fifties so that wasn’t too shabby. We all brought home leftovers and they would have gone down the hatch too and you know it, but my granddaughter dropped by and I gave it all to her for dinner. Sigh, –no wonder i hang out at home on the computer a lot. It keeps me from overeating. – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – What’s the Wendie’s Plan? Chris A "discovery" made by a Weight Watchers member named Wendie, of and about the thermogenetic effects of food. As old as the hills.  And to Wendie’s credit, probably presented in far less effective forms 20 years ago as Hilton Head Metabolism and Rotation diets. (And my quack nutritionist.) Wendie relates that there were some weeks when she lost more than her regular weight loss rate of a pound per week. The weeks that she had her biggest losses were weeks in which she overate! Thanksgiving, Christmas and New Years! Christmas Day found her eating 43 points! [In regular human-speak, this is approximately 2,600 calories of a balanced low-fat diet.]  She had lost 4.75 pounds that week.  She then ran the numbers over a number of weeks and discovered something else. Every week that she overate one day, she had larger than average losses!  So she devised a plan that had a weekly rhythm to it: low calorie day /high calorie day /low calorie day/very high calorie day/very low calorie day /high calorie day/med. high calorie day. How could that possibly work? It can for *some*.  Thermogenetic effects of variations in food intake differ from dieter to dieter.  Dieters with large or nearly intractable weight problems would not tap into their fat stores for energy.  Exercising would not really fit into this equation unless it were of boot camp intensity. The effects of exercise in retaining muscle lost through dieting and on thermogenesis are also negligible.  These effects are even less pronounced in the trained athlete. Which is why you relate that you can’t lose too much weight without losing the muscle you need for powerlifting or weight lifting.  Fully understandable. Anyway, Wendie was not that much of an exerciser–maybe doing 20 minutes each day on a regular basis.  She reaped the benefits of the diet-induced thermogenesis, by synthesizing fat stores and then dieting them off.  She saved the boot camp stuff for her food-stuffing day. The reason exercise works at all in facilitating weight loss may have more to do with aerobic burn-off and inch loss, working synergistically with behavioral modifications. Anyway, you can’t really have too much information. I need to know how the noisy one-third plurality who don’t have too many fat cells live their lives, in order to better live mine! Tina

– Diva  Why does "fat chance" and "slim chance" mean the same thing?

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http://home.mindspring.com/~cjplan/ — SuzyQ 141 / 129.8 / 132 125 NAFC and personal goal WW 11/7/2002

– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Might want to try the CJ plan, similar to Wendie’s but more for those that exercise. And what is that? Chris

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http://home.mindspring.com/~cjplan/

Interesting — thanks! Chris

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Might want to try the CJ plan, similar to Wendie’s but more for those that exercise.

And what is that? Chris

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Might want to try the CJ plan, similar to Wendie’s but more for those that exercise. — SuzyQ 141 / 129.8 / 132 125 NAFC and personal goal WW 11/7/2002

– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – 1. If a dieter who has lost weight before had relatively little trouble maintaining or losing weight on their usual maintenance plan when they had reached goal weight, 2. Can horse around in the kitchen trying out new things, 3. Is not too financially strapped even for #2 above, 4. Is not under too much stress and so can plan out what amounts to heavily controlled bulimic dieting, in my book, Go ahead and Bust your next Plateau with the Wendie’s Plan [The above not intended for Low-Carbers] Tina 197/182/152

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What’s the Wendie’s Plan? So she devised a plan that had a weekly rhythm to it: low calorie day /high calorie day /low calorie day/very high calorie day/very low calorie day /high calorie day/med. high calorie day.

sounds a bit like the zig-zag diet Adrianna (sp?) was on. Gayle

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What’s the Wendie’s Plan? Chris

A "discovery" made by a Weight Watchers member named Wendie, of and about the thermogenetic effects of food. As old as the hills.  And to Wendie’s credit, probably presented in far less effective forms 20 years ago as Hilton Head Metabolism and Rotation diets. (And my quack nutritionist.) Wendie relates that there were some weeks when she lost more than her regular weight loss rate of a pound per week. The weeks that she had her biggest losses were weeks in which she overate! Thanksgiving, Christmas and New Years! Christmas Day found her eating 43 points! [In regular human-speak, this is approximately 2,600 calories of a balanced low-fat diet.]  She had lost 4.75 pounds that week.  She then ran the numbers over a number of weeks and discovered something else. Every week that she overate one day, she had larger than average losses!  So she devised a plan that had a weekly rhythm to it: low calorie day /high calorie day /low calorie day/very high calorie day/very low calorie day /high calorie day/med. high calorie day. How could that possibly work? It can for *some*.  Thermogenetic effects of variations in food intake differ from dieter to dieter.  Dieters with large or nearly intractable weight problems would not tap into their fat stores for energy.  Exercising would not really fit into this equation unless it were of boot camp intensity. The effects of exercise in retaining muscle lost through dieting and on thermogenesis are also negligible.  These effects are even less pronounced in the trained athlete. Which is why you relate that you can’t lose too much weight without losing the muscle you need for powerlifting or weight lifting.  Fully understandable. Anyway, Wendie was not that much of an exerciser–maybe doing 20 minutes each day on a regular basis.  She reaped the benefits of the diet-induced thermogenesis, by synthesizing fat stores and then dieting them off.  She saved the boot camp stuff for her food-stuffing day. The reason exercise works at all in facilitating weight loss may have more to do with aerobic burn-off and inch loss, working synergistically with behavioral modifications. Anyway, you can’t really have too much information. I need to know how the noisy one-third plurality who don’t have too many fat cells live their lives, in order to better live mine! Tina

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– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -1. If a dieter who has lost weight before had relatively little trouble maintaining or losing weight on their usual maintenance plan when they had reached goal weight, 2. Can horse around in the kitchen trying out new things, 3. Is not too financially strapped even for #2 above, 4. Is not under too much stress and so can plan out what amounts to heavily controlled bulimic dieting, in my book, Go ahead and Bust your next Plateau with the Wendie’s Plan [The above not intended for Low-Carbers] Tina 197/182/152

What’s the Wendie’s Plan? Chris

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1. If a dieter who has lost weight before had relatively little trouble maintaining or losing weight on their usual maintenance plan when they had reached goal weight, 2. Can horse around in the kitchen trying out new things, 3. Is not too financially strapped even for #2 above, 4. Is not under too much stress and so can plan out what amounts to heavily controlled bulimic dieting, in my book, Go ahead and Bust your next Plateau with the Wendie’s Plan [The above not intended for Low-Carbers] Tina 197/182/152

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