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I have heard that 1 in every 4 people have undesirable and unhealthy parasites living off them, and creating a multitude of illnesses. How can these parasites be realiably detected and eliminated? Thanks<<<<      Ok — now that I have wasted a good ten minutes or so going through a number of useless posts making fun of this message, and/or making moronically oblique references to MLMs, I have some USEFUL information to offer to the person asking this question.      Wildman, I’m afraid that I don’t know about your statistics one way or another.  As a licensed health care professional (as well as someone who has also had the dubious benefit of suffering from chronic illness for over 13 years); I DO know, however, that intestinal parasites are indeed  FAR  MORE  of an occult problem than most conventional health care providers realize (or care to admit!).        If you would like to be tested for intestinal parasites, do NOT even bother with the standard "Stool Specimen for O & P" tests that are done in most laboratories.  Instead, there is a state-of-the-art test for intestinal parasites and enteric pathogens that uses specimens taken from the rectal mucosa, and uses special dyes for detecting any microorganisms.     This test is done through The Great Smokies Diagnostic Laboratory, 18-A Regent Park Boulevard, Asheville, NC  28806, Tel.:  (704) 253-0621.  Your physician will have to call this laboratory, and request their kit for a "Comprehensive Parasitology X 2 (Swab) Test".  When the kit is received by the physician, then you will need to go into the office for the doctor to perform the first part of the test, and to give you the remainder of the kit in order for you to be able to complete the rest of the test at home.      This test is Medicare approved, as is this laboratory (Medicare more or less being the "gold standard" as to whether or not something is acceptable conventional medicine, and not just a "quack" regimen).  I don’t know exactly what the test costs today, but it was somewhere around $90 about 6-7 years ago.      This test might not pick up a chronic case of Giardia lamblia, as that can often invade the jejunum and small intestine, which is much higher up in the gastrointestinal tract than what this test targets.  If there is a possibility that you might be suffering from chronic giardiasis, this lab has another test that targets that.  If you have problems with Irritable Bowel Syndrome, colitis, Crohn’s Disease, and/or many gastrointestinal complaints; then it would by all means be to your benefit to have this testing done (especially BEFORE they decide to do any cutting on you, and try to — probably unnecessarily — remove your colon).      If you have any of these tests done, and the results come back showing the presence of any intestinal parasites; the treatment for such is relatively inexpensive (such as a three day course of Vermox, repeated again six months later), or a course of metronidazole (generic Flagyl).  Personally, I have not found the so-called "natural" remedies (such as black walnut shells, pumpkin seeds, grapefruit seed extract, etc.) to be all that terribly helpful in ERADICATING intestinal parasites.  They may, however, be helpful in keeping intestinal parasites from recurring, though.      If you do test positive for any intestinal parasites, you should probably also have any family pets (cats or dogs) taken to the vet, and given a course of a broad-spectrum anti-parasitical.  Ask your vet to just treat the pet, and to not waste your money doing any questionably useful stool tests on the pet. Cats and dogs are NOTORIOUS carriers of various different parasites.      Also begin using scrupulously good handwashing technique (using hot water, liquid hand soap, and only paper towels) — FREQUENTLY.  Do not eat any raw fruits or vegetables that are  not peeled UNLESS they have first been washed carefully, and then soaked either in a solution of 1 cup of Clorox to 1 gallon of water, or sprayed heavily with hydrogen peroxide; and then rinsed thoroughly.      For any of you relentless cynics out there, I have absolutely NOTHING to gain from offering this advice/information (certainly nothing monetary, at any rate).  I found this regimen to put MY arthritis into extended remission (I wouldn’t presume to use the word "cure"), as well as to have helped other friends with various chronic health complaints.        I would love nothing more than to see some of the big corporate conglomerate drug manufacturers put out of business when they can no longer make enormous mega-bucks from the obscene prices charged for the various medications now commonly used to treat arthritis.  I would also like to see ruthless surgeons quit doing unnecessary colon removals on people, leaving them dependent upon the use of a colostomy bag for the rest of their lives.      So please — spare me from any sarcastic comments that you may be feeling inclined to make — chances are, I may very well already have heard them all anyway.    

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     Hunhhhh?????

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The most direct solution (blowing up Federal Buildings and the people in them) has been held to be extreme.  A better plan is for you to be more careful how you vote next time.                                             Best,                                             Steve     Hunhhhh?????

Gee, I’m glad you said Huh too! I just thought I was really tired cause I didn’t know what that meant either. Marleen – Lyme Warrior * Here’s an Interesting Site for Vitamins & Supplements: http://www.lifeplus.com/home.htm  Member ID – PIN #489265 Why don’t sheep shrink in the rain?   Why do people who know the least – know it the loudest?

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For any of you relentless cynics out there, I have absolutely NOTHING to gain from offering this advice/information (certainly nothing monetary, at any rate).  I found this regimen to put MY arthritis into extended remission (I wouldn’t presume to use the word "cure"), as well as to have helped other friends with various chronic health complaints.   No.  I’m not a cynical.  This was a great post.  I hear it’s a terrific lab doing great work.  I do have a question–re: your arthritis– did you also have gastrointestinal symptoms leading you to the decision to check for parasites?  Or just arthritis?  Just wondering.  Glad you feel better.  BL

     BL — why, thank you very much for the kind comment — SO refreshing to see!!        To answer your question; no, I didn’t have much in the way of gastrointestinal symptoms to any really significant degree.  I came across this theory through a somewhat roundabout means of personal research — and then decided that the logic was sound enough, and the treatment was reasonably innocuous enough, to at least give it a try.      Unfortunately, I didn’t learn about the Great Smokies Lab, and the testing that they do for intestinal parasites, until AFTER  I had tried the Vermox/metronidazole therapy, though   I did have a couple of friends, however, whose testing through that lab turned up some real stunners — such as Entameba histolytica  that hadn’t been picked up through the conventional (read: useless) "Stool Specimen for O & P" tests for that sort of thing.         Don’t you find it awfully interesting that one of the "big guns" treatment for arthritis is Plaquenil — an anti-MALARIAL drug?  And isn’t it interesting that minocycline (an antibiotic in the tetracycline class) is being found to be QUITE helpful in treating some cases of arthritis??      I would truly be thrilled if I ever see the day when it is revealed that most cases of arthritis are indeed caused by some sort of definitively treatable microorganism — much like the way that most gastric ulcers have been found to actually be caused by the microorganism, Helicobacter pylori.      Anyway, thank you again for the nice response!   Anne  ^  ^  {__}

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– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -(PISCESVGRI) writes: I have heard that 1 in every 4 people have undesirable and unhealthy parasites living off them, and creating a multitude of illnesses. How can these parasites be realiably detected and eliminated? The most direct solution (blowing up Federal Buildings and the people in them) has been held to be extreme.  A better plan is for you to be more careful how you vote next time.                                             Best,                                             Steve     Hunhhhh?????

It was a joke, son.

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Gee, I’m glad you said Huh too! I just thought I was really tired cause I didn’t know what that meant either. Libertarian Steve is voicing his dissatisfaction with the Federal Government.  He’d like there to be less of it.  It would seem that he considers those on the federal payroll to be parasites.

Oh, well then that makes sense. Marleen – Lyme Warrior * Here’s an Interesting Site for Vitamins & Supplements: http://www.lifeplus.com/home.htm  Member ID – PIN #489265 Why do people who know the least – know it the loudest?

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I agree.  As a card-carrying Libertarian the less government, the better. – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – The most direct solution (blowing up Federal Buildings and the people in them) has been held to be extreme.  A better plan is for you to be more careful how you vote next time.                                             Best,                                             Steve     Hunhhhh????? Gee, I’m glad you said Huh too! I just thought I was really tired cause I didn’t know what that meant either. Libertarian Steve is voicing his dissatisfaction with the Federal Government.  He’d like there to be less of it.  It would seem that he considers those on the federal payroll to be parasites.      These are my opinions only, but they’re almost always correct.      "After all, this is still the land of opportunity.  If you know       where to look."  – Jack Douglas

– A. Van Beveren, Ph.D., CNC 609-924-7337   |Au-d.l.r.u? Nutritional Biochemist and Physiologist   |

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– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – The most direct solution (blowing up Federal Buildings and the people in them) has been held to be extreme.  A better plan is for you to be more careful how you vote next time.                                             Best,                                             Steve     Hunhhhh????? Gee, I’m glad you said Huh too! I just thought I was really tired cause I didn’t know what that meant either. Libertarian Steve is voicing his dissatisfaction with the Federal Government.  He’d like there to be less of it.  It would seem that he considers those on the federal payroll to be parasites.

   Nah– just most of them.  90%, perhaps?

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 I would truly be thrilled if I ever see the day when it is revealed that most cases of arthritis are indeed caused by some sort of definitively treatable microorganism — much like the way that most gastric ulcers have been found to actually be caused by the microorganism, Helicobacter pylori.

Me too.  Actually there is a doctor at Vanderbilt that has identified a particular microorganism in every case of fibromyalgia and chronic fatigue that he sees– something like Chlamydiapnemonae Not sure if that is spelled correctly.  I’m not sure how he diagnoses and treats it though.  Does anyone know?  Some doctors use microscopy (live cell) to find parasites.  Parasites are really hard to find, apparently, even GSDL has trouble with this sometimes.     Anyway, thank you again for the nice response!  

Well, I’ve been flamed many times and I’m interested in parasites. Plus I’m a nice person of course.   And Dr. Harris definitely "writes" before he thinks! Steve, I knew that was some sort of weird libertarian joke, but it was in very poor taste!!  Of course, I will defend your right to post such stuff, but it certainly wouldn’t be funny to someone from Oklahoma City.  (and I have strong libertarian tendencies).  BL

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For any of you relentless cynics out there, I have absolutely NOTHING to gain from offering this advice/information (certainly nothing monetary, at any rate).  I found this regimen to put MY arthritis into extended remission (I wouldn’t presume to use the word "cure"), as well as to have helped other friends with various chronic health complaints.  

No.  I’m not a cynical.  This was a great post.  I hear it’s a terrific lab doing great work.  I do have a question–re: your arthritis– did you also have gastrointestinal symptoms leading you to the decision to check for parasites?  Or just arthritis?  Just wondering.  Glad you feel better.  BL

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The most direct solution (blowing up Federal Buildings and the people in them) has been held to be extreme.  A better plan is for you to be more careful how you vote next time.                                             Best,                                             Steve     Hunhhhh????? Gee, I’m glad you said Huh too! I just thought I was really tired cause I didn’t know what that meant either.

Libertarian Steve is voicing his dissatisfaction with the Federal Government.  He’d like there to be less of it.  It would seem that he considers those on the federal payroll to be parasites.      These are my opinions only, but they’re almost always correct.      "After all, this is still the land of opportunity.  If you know       where to look."  – Jack Douglas

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Nah, awhile ago, you did what you are so famous for. Putting you foot in that huge mouth. You did say that humans don’t have parasited, only MLM’s are trying to get people to worry and think about it.

LOL! I would never say that. I would say that MLMers are blowing the parasite problem all out of proportion, trying to get you to think that parasites are the casue of whatever ails you, in order to sell you some high-priced worthless crap that wouldn’t do anything about parasites anyway. Jet Silverman  To email me, remove the x.

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Nah, awhile ago, you did what you are so famous for. Putting you foot in that huge mouth. You did say that humans don’t have parasited, only MLM’s are trying to get people to worry and think about it. LOL! I would never say that. I would say that MLMers are blowing the parasite problem all out of proportion, trying to get you to think that parasites are the casue of whatever ails you, in order to sell you some high-priced worthless crap that wouldn’t do anything about parasites anyway.

Yes, I think most MLM products are over-priced. There are some good products I must say, but they can usually be found in retail stores for much less.

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(PISCESVGRI) writes: I have heard that 1 in every 4 people have undesirable and unhealthy parasites living off them, and creating a multitude of illnesses. How can these parasites be realiably detected and eliminated?

The most direct solution (blowing up Federal Buildings and the people in them) has been held to be extreme.  A better plan is for you to be more careful how you vote next time.                                              Best,                                              Steve

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I have heard that 1 in every 4 people have undesirable and unhealthy parasites living off them, and creating a multitude of illnesses. How can these parasites be realiably detected and eliminated? Thanks

Do a search on Yahoo, type in "round worm" and there are few good sites for information. There better one is at McGill U, Canada.

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Personally I don’t give a damn about parasites one way or the other. My reference was to her inferring as usual ….that parasites are a figment of the imagination of MLM. ie, they do not exist in humans. LOL. Marleen, you are so obsessed with "getting" me, that you have started to see things. I was inferring that MLM people ARE parasites. Jet Silverman  To email me, remove the x.

Nah, awhile ago, you did what you are so famous for. Putting you foot in that huge mouth. You did say that humans don’t have parasited, only MLM’s are trying to get people to worry and think about it. Who is obsessed with whom here??? Aren’t YOU posting to my Lyme Support ng? I think unless you have Lyme,  that would be considered trolling. You must be very bored to come over and read all the posts from people who have Lyme Disease looking for something to pounce on. Or have you suddenly realized what a terrible disease it actually  is, and you have come over to see what you can do to help, God, I couldn’t even type that with a straight face. Marleen – Lyme Warrior * Here’s an Interesting Site for Vitamins & Supplements: http://www.lifeplus.com/home.htm  Member ID – PIN #489265 Why don’t sheep shrink in the rain?   Why do people who know the least – know it the loudest?

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PA306: PARASITES OF MEDICAL IMPORTANCE Marleen, your references don’t address the question.

Personally I don’t give a damn about parasites one way or the other. My reference was to her inferring as usual ….that parasites are a figment of the imagination of MLM. ie, they do not exist in humans. That’s all. Marleen – Lyme Warrior * Here’s an Interesting Site for Vitamins & Supplements: http://www.lifeplus.com/home.htm  Member ID – PIN #489265 Why don’t sheep shrink in the rain?   Why do people who know the least – know it the loudest?

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I wouldn’t wish the parasites I’ve had on anyone–even a flamer!  I have had them many years, apparently, judging by their sizes and types.  I have identified tape worms, round worms, and flukes in quanity that I expelled over a six month period.  I’m afraid they are a very real and serious problem for many people.  They also worsen a person’s general health.  In my case, the disease of chronic hepatitis C  wasn’t about to improve before I won a few battles with the parasites.  The expensive laboratory tests I had  never did show ova, but I’ve heard that it is a common occurence.  I have used a couple of different  herbs (mostly black walnut extract) with consultation with an herbalist, an acupuncturist, and my internist.  I have nothing to sell.  I believe though that the marketing plans out there for various anti-parasite preparations could benefit many unsuspecting people along with those doing the selling.  I haven’t tried any of them, however.  DLou

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I have heard that 1 in every 4 people have undesirable and unhealthy parasites living off them, They are called MLM sales people. Or here is another place to check on parasites in humans: PA306: PARASITES OF MEDICAL IMPORTANCE

Marleen, your references don’t address the question. The question is:  do 1 out of 4 people have undesirable and unhealthy parasites living off them?  The fact that parasitic diseases exist, or that AIDS patients get parasitic diseases is indisputable. However, whether 25% of the population is being dragged down this way is a different matter entirely.  Frankly, I doubt it.  And at least some of these "parasite" postings are come-ons from the Scientologists, IIRC.      These are my opinions only, but they’re almost always correct.      "After all, this is still the land of opportunity.  If you know       where to look."  – Jack Douglas

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I have heard that 1 in every 4 people have undesirable and unhealthy parasites living off them, They are called MLM sales people.

Or here is another place to check on parasites in humans: PA306: PARASITES OF MEDICAL IMPORTANCE 10 credit points; 2nd semester; 2 lectures and one (3-hour) practical  class/week; compulsory prerequisites, PA200 or ZL222 or ZL224 Subject Coordinator: Assoc. Prof. Paul Prociv Contributors: Assoc. Prof. Paul Prociv; Mr. R. Luke (State Health Laboratory) Goal: To familiarise students with the broad range of parasites that infect humans, and the diseases they cause. Those species which are especially important, because of the numbers of people infected, or the severity of disease produced, will be considered in more detail. At the completion of the subject, students will know about: the structure of  the important parasites; and how they are related to each other; where they  occur and how they are transmitted between people and, in many cases, other  animals; how they move within the human body and interact with tissues to  cause disease; how these infections are diagnosed; how they may be treated,  controlled and prevented. Marleen – Lyme Warrior * Here’s an Interesting Site for Vitamins & Supplements: http://www.lifeplus.com/home.htm  Member ID – PIN #489265 Why don’t sheep shrink in the rain?   Why do people who know the least – know  it the loudest?

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I have heard that 1 in every 4 people have undesirable and unhealthy parasites living off them, and creating a multitude of illnesses. How can these parasites be realiably detected and eliminated? Thanks

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I have heard that 1 in every 4 people have undesirable and unhealthy parasites living off them,

They are called MLM sales people. Jet Silverman  To email me, remove the x.

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I have heard that 1 in every 4 people have undesirable and unhealthy parasites living off them, They are called MLM sales people.

You can take advice from Jet …. or you could actually check on the Medline  about information on parasites. It’s entirely up to you. Zoonoses in HIV-Infected Patients: Risk Factors and Prevention Part II. Gastrointestinal, Skin, and Other Diseases Authors: Thomas S. Pham, MD, DVM, Rock Island Arsenal US Army Health Clinic;  Linda S. Mansfield, MS, VMD, PhD, Michigan State University; George W.  Turiansky, MD, Walter Reed Army Medical Center Abstract: Zoonotic agents including bacteria, fungi, protozoa, and parasites  cause a number of illnesses in HIV-infected patients. We review most of the major zoonotic diseases commonly found in AIDS patients  and several other potentially important zoonoses associated with pets and farm  animals. Epidemiology and preventive measures are discussed particularly for  zoonoses acquired from the environment, food, and pets. Part I of this article  covered nervous-system and pulmonary diseases acquired from animals. Part II  focuses on animal-related gastrointestinal, skin, and other diseases. [The  AIDS Reader 7(2):41-52, 1997.

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(PISCESVGRI) writes: I have heard that 1 in every 4 people have undesirable and unhealthy parasites living off them, and creating a multitude of illnesses. How can these parasites be realiably detected and eliminated?

The most direct solution (blowing up Federal Buildings and the people in them) has been held to be extreme.  A better plan is for you to be more careful how you vote next time.                                              Best,                                              Steve

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For any of you relentless cynics out there, I have absolutely NOTHING to gain from offering this advice/information (certainly nothing monetary, at any rate).  I found this regimen to put MY arthritis into extended remission (I wouldn’t presume to use the word "cure"), as well as to have helped other friends with various chronic health complaints.  

No.  I’m not a cynical.  This was a great post.  I hear it’s a terrific lab doing great work.  I do have a question–re: your arthritis– did you also have gastrointestinal symptoms leading you to the decision to check for parasites?  Or just arthritis?  Just wondering.  Glad you feel better.  BL

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The most direct solution (blowing up Federal Buildings and the people in them) has been held to be extreme.  A better plan is for you to be more careful how you vote next time.                                             Best,                                             Steve     Hunhhhh????? Gee, I’m glad you said Huh too! I just thought I was really tired cause I didn’t know what that meant either.

Libertarian Steve is voicing his dissatisfaction with the Federal Government.  He’d like there to be less of it.  It would seem that he considers those on the federal payroll to be parasites.      These are my opinions only, but they’re almost always correct.      "After all, this is still the land of opportunity.  If you know       where to look."  – Jack Douglas

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     Hunhhhh?????

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The most direct solution (blowing up Federal Buildings and the people in them) has been held to be extreme.  A better plan is for you to be more careful how you vote next time.                                             Best,                                             Steve     Hunhhhh?????

Gee, I’m glad you said Huh too! I just thought I was really tired cause I didn’t know what that meant either. Marleen – Lyme Warrior * Here’s an Interesting Site for Vitamins & Supplements: http://www.lifeplus.com/home.htm  Member ID – PIN #489265 Why don’t sheep shrink in the rain?   Why do people who know the least – know it the loudest?

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For any of you relentless cynics out there, I have absolutely NOTHING to gain from offering this advice/information (certainly nothing monetary, at any rate).  I found this regimen to put MY arthritis into extended remission (I wouldn’t presume to use the word "cure"), as well as to have helped other friends with various chronic health complaints.   No.  I’m not a cynical.  This was a great post.  I hear it’s a terrific lab doing great work.  I do have a question–re: your arthritis– did you also have gastrointestinal symptoms leading you to the decision to check for parasites?  Or just arthritis?  Just wondering.  Glad you feel better.  BL

     BL — why, thank you very much for the kind comment — SO refreshing to see!!        To answer your question; no, I didn’t have much in the way of gastrointestinal symptoms to any really significant degree.  I came across this theory through a somewhat roundabout means of personal research — and then decided that the logic was sound enough, and the treatment was reasonably innocuous enough, to at least give it a try.      Unfortunately, I didn’t learn about the Great Smokies Lab, and the testing that they do for intestinal parasites, until AFTER  I had tried the Vermox/metronidazole therapy, though   I did have a couple of friends, however, whose testing through that lab turned up some real stunners — such as Entameba histolytica  that hadn’t been picked up through the conventional (read: useless) "Stool Specimen for O & P" tests for that sort of thing.         Don’t you find it awfully interesting that one of the "big guns" treatment for arthritis is Plaquenil — an anti-MALARIAL drug?  And isn’t it interesting that minocycline (an antibiotic in the tetracycline class) is being found to be QUITE helpful in treating some cases of arthritis??      I would truly be thrilled if I ever see the day when it is revealed that most cases of arthritis are indeed caused by some sort of definitively treatable microorganism — much like the way that most gastric ulcers have been found to actually be caused by the microorganism, Helicobacter pylori.      Anyway, thank you again for the nice response!   Anne  ^  ^  {__}

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It was a joke, son.

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– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – The most direct solution (blowing up Federal Buildings and the people in them) has been held to be extreme.  A better plan is for you to be more careful how you vote next time.                                             Best,                                             Steve     Hunhhhh????? Gee, I’m glad you said Huh too! I just thought I was really tired cause I didn’t know what that meant either. Libertarian Steve is voicing his dissatisfaction with the Federal Government.  He’d like there to be less of it.  It would seem that he considers those on the federal payroll to be parasites.

   Nah– just most of them.  90%, perhaps?

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PA306: PARASITES OF MEDICAL IMPORTANCE Marleen, your references don’t address the question.

Personally I don’t give a damn about parasites one way or the other. My reference was to her inferring as usual ….that parasites are a figment of the imagination of MLM. ie, they do not exist in humans. That’s all. Marleen – Lyme Warrior * Here’s an Interesting Site for Vitamins & Supplements: http://www.lifeplus.com/home.htm  Member ID – PIN #489265 Why don’t sheep shrink in the rain?   Why do people who know the least – know it the loudest?

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I have heard that 1 in every 4 people have undesirable and unhealthy parasites living off them, and creating a multitude of illnesses. How can these parasites be realiably detected and eliminated? Thanks

Do a search on Yahoo, type in "round worm" and there are few good sites for information. There better one is at McGill U, Canada.

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Personally I don’t give a damn about parasites one way or the other. My reference was to her inferring as usual ….that parasites are a figment of the imagination of MLM. ie, they do not exist in humans. LOL. Marleen, you are so obsessed with "getting" me, that you have started to see things. I was inferring that MLM people ARE parasites. Jet Silverman  To email me, remove the x.

Nah, awhile ago, you did what you are so famous for. Putting you foot in that huge mouth. You did say that humans don’t have parasited, only MLM’s are trying to get people to worry and think about it. Who is obsessed with whom here??? Aren’t YOU posting to my Lyme Support ng? I think unless you have Lyme,  that would be considered trolling. You must be very bored to come over and read all the posts from people who have Lyme Disease looking for something to pounce on. Or have you suddenly realized what a terrible disease it actually  is, and you have come over to see what you can do to help, God, I couldn’t even type that with a straight face. Marleen – Lyme Warrior * Here’s an Interesting Site for Vitamins & Supplements: http://www.lifeplus.com/home.htm  Member ID – PIN #489265 Why don’t sheep shrink in the rain?   Why do people who know the least – know it the loudest?

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Nah, awhile ago, you did what you are so famous for. Putting you foot in that huge mouth. You did say that humans don’t have parasited, only MLM’s are trying to get people to worry and think about it.

LOL! I would never say that. I would say that MLMers are blowing the parasite problem all out of proportion, trying to get you to think that parasites are the casue of whatever ails you, in order to sell you some high-priced worthless crap that wouldn’t do anything about parasites anyway. Jet Silverman  To email me, remove the x.

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Nah, awhile ago, you did what you are so famous for. Putting you foot in that huge mouth. You did say that humans don’t have parasited, only MLM’s are trying to get people to worry and think about it. LOL! I would never say that. I would say that MLMers are blowing the parasite problem all out of proportion, trying to get you to think that parasites are the casue of whatever ails you, in order to sell you some high-priced worthless crap that wouldn’t do anything about parasites anyway.

Yes, I think most MLM products are over-priced. There are some good products I must say, but they can usually be found in retail stores for much less.

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I have heard that 1 in every 4 people have undesirable and unhealthy parasites living off them, and creating a multitude of illnesses. How can these parasites be realiably detected and eliminated? Thanks<<<<      Ok — now that I have wasted a good ten minutes or so going through a number of useless posts making fun of this message, and/or making moronically oblique references to MLMs, I have some USEFUL information to offer to the person asking this question.      Wildman, I’m afraid that I don’t know about your statistics one way or another.  As a licensed health care professional (as well as someone who has also had the dubious benefit of suffering from chronic illness for over 13 years); I DO know, however, that intestinal parasites are indeed  FAR  MORE  of an occult problem than most conventional health care providers realize (or care to admit!).        If you would like to be tested for intestinal parasites, do NOT even bother with the standard "Stool Specimen for O & P" tests that are done in most laboratories.  Instead, there is a state-of-the-art test for intestinal parasites and enteric pathogens that uses specimens taken from the rectal mucosa, and uses special dyes for detecting any microorganisms.     This test is done through The Great Smokies Diagnostic Laboratory, 18-A Regent Park Boulevard, Asheville, NC  28806, Tel.:  (704) 253-0621.  Your physician will have to call this laboratory, and request their kit for a "Comprehensive Parasitology X 2 (Swab) Test".  When the kit is received by the physician, then you will need to go into the office for the doctor to perform the first part of the test, and to give you the remainder of the kit in order for you to be able to complete the rest of the test at home.      This test is Medicare approved, as is this laboratory (Medicare more or less being the "gold standard" as to whether or not something is acceptable conventional medicine, and not just a "quack" regimen).  I don’t know exactly what the test costs today, but it was somewhere around $90 about 6-7 years ago.      This test might not pick up a chronic case of Giardia lamblia, as that can often invade the jejunum and small intestine, which is much higher up in the gastrointestinal tract than what this test targets.  If there is a possibility that you might be suffering from chronic giardiasis, this lab has another test that targets that.  If you have problems with Irritable Bowel Syndrome, colitis, Crohn’s Disease, and/or many gastrointestinal complaints; then it would by all means be to your benefit to have this testing done (especially BEFORE they decide to do any cutting on you, and try to — probably unnecessarily — remove your colon).      If you have any of these tests done, and the results come back showing the presence of any intestinal parasites; the treatment for such is relatively inexpensive (such as a three day course of Vermox, repeated again six months later), or a course of metronidazole (generic Flagyl).  Personally, I have not found the so-called "natural" remedies (such as black walnut shells, pumpkin seeds, grapefruit seed extract, etc.) to be all that terribly helpful in ERADICATING intestinal parasites.  They may, however, be helpful in keeping intestinal parasites from recurring, though.      If you do test positive for any intestinal parasites, you should probably also have any family pets (cats or dogs) taken to the vet, and given a course of a broad-spectrum anti-parasitical.  Ask your vet to just treat the pet, and to not waste your money doing any questionably useful stool tests on the pet. Cats and dogs are NOTORIOUS carriers of various different parasites.      Also begin using scrupulously good handwashing technique (using hot water, liquid hand soap, and only paper towels) — FREQUENTLY.  Do not eat any raw fruits or vegetables that are  not peeled UNLESS they have first been washed carefully, and then soaked either in a solution of 1 cup of Clorox to 1 gallon of water, or sprayed heavily with hydrogen peroxide; and then rinsed thoroughly.      For any of you relentless cynics out there, I have absolutely NOTHING to gain from offering this advice/information (certainly nothing monetary, at any rate).  I found this regimen to put MY arthritis into extended remission (I wouldn’t presume to use the word "cure"), as well as to have helped other friends with various chronic health complaints.        I would love nothing more than to see some of the big corporate conglomerate drug manufacturers put out of business when they can no longer make enormous mega-bucks from the obscene prices charged for the various medications now commonly used to treat arthritis.  I would also like to see ruthless surgeons quit doing unnecessary colon removals on people, leaving them dependent upon the use of a colostomy bag for the rest of their lives.      So please — spare me from any sarcastic comments that you may be feeling inclined to make — chances are, I may very well already have heard them all anyway.    

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I agree.  As a card-carrying Libertarian the less government, the better. – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – The most direct solution (blowing up Federal Buildings and the people in them) has been held to be extreme.  A better plan is for you to be more careful how you vote next time.                                             Best,                                             Steve     Hunhhhh????? Gee, I’m glad you said Huh too! I just thought I was really tired cause I didn’t know what that meant either. Libertarian Steve is voicing his dissatisfaction with the Federal Government.  He’d like there to be less of it.  It would seem that he considers those on the federal payroll to be parasites.      These are my opinions only, but they’re almost always correct.      "After all, this is still the land of opportunity.  If you know       where to look."  – Jack Douglas

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Gee, I’m glad you said Huh too! I just thought I was really tired cause I didn’t know what that meant either. Libertarian Steve is voicing his dissatisfaction with the Federal Government.  He’d like there to be less of it.  It would seem that he considers those on the federal payroll to be parasites.

Oh, well then that makes sense. Marleen – Lyme Warrior * Here’s an Interesting Site for Vitamins & Supplements: http://www.lifeplus.com/home.htm  Member ID – PIN #489265 Why do people who know the least – know it the loudest?

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 I would truly be thrilled if I ever see the day when it is revealed that most cases of arthritis are indeed caused by some sort of definitively treatable microorganism — much like the way that most gastric ulcers have been found to actually be caused by the microorganism, Helicobacter pylori.

Me too.  Actually there is a doctor at Vanderbilt that has identified a particular microorganism in every case of fibromyalgia and chronic fatigue that he sees– something like Chlamydiapnemonae Not sure if that is spelled correctly.  I’m not sure how he diagnoses and treats it though.  Does anyone know?  Some doctors use microscopy (live cell) to find parasites.  Parasites are really hard to find, apparently, even GSDL has trouble with this sometimes.     Anyway, thank you again for the nice response!  

Well, I’ve been flamed many times and I’m interested in parasites. Plus I’m a nice person of course.   And Dr. Harris definitely "writes" before he thinks! Steve, I knew that was some sort of weird libertarian joke, but it was in very poor taste!!  Of course, I will defend your right to post such stuff, but it certainly wouldn’t be funny to someone from Oklahoma City.  (and I have strong libertarian tendencies).  BL

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I have heard that 1 in every 4 people have undesirable and unhealthy parasites living off them, They are called MLM sales people. Or here is another place to check on parasites in humans: PA306: PARASITES OF MEDICAL IMPORTANCE

Marleen, your references don’t address the question. The question is:  do 1 out of 4 people have undesirable and unhealthy parasites living off them?  The fact that parasitic diseases exist, or that AIDS patients get parasitic diseases is indisputable. However, whether 25% of the population is being dragged down this way is a different matter entirely.  Frankly, I doubt it.  And at least some of these "parasite" postings are come-ons from the Scientologists, IIRC.      These are my opinions only, but they’re almost always correct.      "After all, this is still the land of opportunity.  If you know       where to look."  – Jack Douglas

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I have heard that 1 in every 4 people have undesirable and unhealthy parasites living off them, They are called MLM sales people.

Or here is another place to check on parasites in humans: PA306: PARASITES OF MEDICAL IMPORTANCE 10 credit points; 2nd semester; 2 lectures and one (3-hour) practical  class/week; compulsory prerequisites, PA200 or ZL222 or ZL224 Subject Coordinator: Assoc. Prof. Paul Prociv Contributors: Assoc. Prof. Paul Prociv; Mr. R. Luke (State Health Laboratory) Goal: To familiarise students with the broad range of parasites that infect humans, and the diseases they cause. Those species which are especially important, because of the numbers of people infected, or the severity of disease produced, will be considered in more detail. At the completion of the subject, students will know about: the structure of  the important parasites; and how they are related to each other; where they  occur and how they are transmitted between people and, in many cases, other  animals; how they move within the human body and interact with tissues to  cause disease; how these infections are diagnosed; how they may be treated,  controlled and prevented. Marleen – Lyme Warrior * Here’s an Interesting Site for Vitamins & Supplements: http://www.lifeplus.com/home.htm  Member ID – PIN #489265 Why don’t sheep shrink in the rain?   Why do people who know the least – know  it the loudest?

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I wouldn’t wish the parasites I’ve had on anyone–even a flamer!  I have had them many years, apparently, judging by their sizes and types.  I have identified tape worms, round worms, and flukes in quanity that I expelled over a six month period.  I’m afraid they are a very real and serious problem for many people.  They also worsen a person’s general health.  In my case, the disease of chronic hepatitis C  wasn’t about to improve before I won a few battles with the parasites.  The expensive laboratory tests I had  never did show ova, but I’ve heard that it is a common occurence.  I have used a couple of different  herbs (mostly black walnut extract) with consultation with an herbalist, an acupuncturist, and my internist.  I have nothing to sell.  I believe though that the marketing plans out there for various anti-parasite preparations could benefit many unsuspecting people along with those doing the selling.  I haven’t tried any of them, however.  DLou

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I have heard that 1 in every 4 people have undesirable and unhealthy parasites living off them, and creating a multitude of illnesses. How can these parasites be realiably detected and eliminated? Thanks

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I have heard that 1 in every 4 people have undesirable and unhealthy parasites living off them,

They are called MLM sales people. Jet Silverman  To email me, remove the x.

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I have heard that 1 in every 4 people have undesirable and unhealthy parasites living off them, They are called MLM sales people.

You can take advice from Jet …. or you could actually check on the Medline  about information on parasites. It’s entirely up to you. Zoonoses in HIV-Infected Patients: Risk Factors and Prevention Part II. Gastrointestinal, Skin, and Other Diseases Authors: Thomas S. Pham, MD, DVM, Rock Island Arsenal US Army Health Clinic;  Linda S. Mansfield, MS, VMD, PhD, Michigan State University; George W.  Turiansky, MD, Walter Reed Army Medical Center Abstract: Zoonotic agents including bacteria, fungi, protozoa, and parasites  cause a number of illnesses in HIV-infected patients. We review most of the major zoonotic diseases commonly found in AIDS patients  and several other potentially important zoonoses associated with pets and farm  animals. Epidemiology and preventive measures are discussed particularly for  zoonoses acquired from the environment, food, and pets. Part I of this article  covered nervous-system and pulmonary diseases acquired from animals. Part II  focuses on animal-related gastrointestinal, skin, and other diseases. [The  AIDS Reader 7(2):41-52, 1997.