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Also read the post below : Iron and Colitis (Ken. W) A study confirms David Greggs theory that iron activates the Haber-Weiss reaction in the intestines ! Read the story (Iron and Colitis) and read the following link… http://www.krysalis-sparx.com/crohn.htm Thanks, Ed
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There are several references, I’ll look for them to post, that MSM (Methyl Sulfonyl Methane. MSM is also called "organic sulfur." ) is the beneficial ingredient in DMSO.
Not exactly an ingredient– MSM is one of the things your body metabosizes DMSO into…the stuff that has the beneficial effects…. Anti inflammatory, reduces pain, etc, amazing stuff, said to be safer than aspirin, etc. I do not have Crohns. My interest here is because a good friend of mine has CD. I use MSM for back and joint pain and find it very effective. MSM is also DMSO2…one Oxygen added to DMSO….DMSO is a powerful antioxident whereas it is uncertain if MSM is an antioxident. I have read that MSM does enhance the effects of steroids, which might mean that less of the steroid might be needed or perhaps that the steroid just works better. Recently read a study done of the effects of adding DMSO to prednisone and it looked promising. I think it was a link posted here by Member4165 http://www.dmso.org/articles/intestinal/colitis1.htm http://www.dmso.org/articles/intestinal/colitis2.htm Please go to the above sites and read. Your doctors might find this study interesting. excerpt below: "The remission rate after 2 weeks of active treatment was significantly (p < 0.01) higher in the allopurinol (40 patients, 87%) and DMSO (38 patients, 84%) groups than that in the sulfasalazine and prednisolone group (23 patients, 51%). In the remaining cases orally administered prenisolone was increased to 15 mg four times a day. All patients in the allopurinol and DMSO groups became free of symptoms with 3 weeks of treatment, a result that was superior (p < 0.01) to that of the sulfasalazine and prednisolone group in which only 66% of patients were free of symptoms at this stage. Remission in all members of the latter group was achieved after 4 weeks of treatment. In every patient the clinical recovery from an attack was associated with sigmoidoscopic appearances of remission and the histologic observation of an inflammatory bowel disease in an inactive phase. Thus the remission rate on the basis of symptoms coincided with that which was determined histologically. During prophylactic treatment, 10 patients (25%) in the sulfasalazine alone group and two patients (5%) in each of the other groups had recurrent attacks of moderate proctosigmoiditis. All of these relapses were symptomatic and were confirmed histologically. There were no cases of histologically active disease in a patient who was free of symptoms (i.e., silent relapses). The results illustrate that addition of allopurinol of DMSO to sulfasalazine significantly (p < 0.5) enhances its protective effects. The colonoscopies and barium enema, which were performed during the maintenance therapy year, demonstrated no change in the extent of the disease. A series of Cox proportional hazard models was fitted with all factors other than treatment with radical scavengers as covariates to obtain a group of patients and conditions that independently and significantly influence the rate of disease relapse and remission. Allopurinol or DMSO was then added to treatment as separate covariates. Increasing duration of symptoms, anemia, constitutional disturbances, and increasing number of daily bowel movements all had a significantly (p < 0,001) detrimental effect on the rate of disease relapse and remission at the 5% level. When these and all the other nonsignificant variables were allowed for, treatment with allopurinol or DMSO continued to exert a significant beneficial effect on the rate of remission after an acute attack (p < 0.01) and on reducing the maintance treatment (p < 0.05)."
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Julie There are several references, I’ll look for them to post, that MSM (Methyl Sulfonyl Methane. MSM is also called "organic sulfur." ) is the beneficial ingredient in DMSO. Here’s a link someone sent me in this thread http://www.msm.com/book/msm-part1.html Nick
– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – what is MSM? Kim After 9 months of active crohns, I did several things, stopped eating salad, stopped drinking my one cup of coffee, stopped drinking my one glass of wine and started taking 1 3mg Melatonin every night & two Glucosomine and MSM capsules (500mg each) every other day. I felt better within a couple of days. Now the problem is I don’t know why. Though I suspect a Dr. or most folks in this newsgroup would say I simply went into a partial remission. Maybe so. Maybe not. Since Nov 7 when I started I’ve introduced and occasional cup of coffee and wine, but kept out the salad and increased the G & MSM. No change, still feel good! Is the MSM helping? Well it sure as heck isn’t hurting! At considerable risk (since I’ll have to feel bad again to find it) I plan on trying to target which of these factors has the biggest bang. I’ll let you know. Try what you can that is within the limits of "safe" and see what works for you. Keep us posted. Nick I’ve read that Pure DMSO is not absorbed as readily as DMSO that is diluted. Also remember seeing something about different dilutions being more effective for different things. Sorry I can’t be more specific but you may want to look into it. Most of the over the counter or over the internet DMSO is available diluted with 30% water or aloe vera. The aloe is supposed to help minimize the itching, but my experience is that it still itches a little. I have used DMSO several times over the last 10 years or so and have never noticed any ill effects or anything I can attribute to it carrying stuff with it through the skin BUT it is a possibility. Normal hygiene and rinse well, plane ol’ soap, no deodorant or anything that implies that it ‘leaves’ protection on you. Also it is likely that you clothing may have a dye in it so be careful. If you must keep moving, I have heard that some people wrap the application site with Saran Wrap. Very glad to hear that it seems to be working for you Ed. I am still wondering if MSM would be of use for Crohn’s. Anybody tried it? Kim I’m also trying DMSO.. I’m doing really fine now… I’ve gained 2,5 – 3 kilos in about a week since first applying DMSO ! I went down from 72 to 65 and after using DMSO I’m 67,5 – 68 again ! My energy level is a lot higher.. I use pure DMSO (99% pure) and I’ve also dissolved B12 in it… What helps the itching is mixing the DMSO, with 30% water… I clean my stumach using water only (also wash your hands carefully).. Also, when the DMSO has entered your body, apply some water on the places that itch.. The itching is primarily caused by the dehydration.. I also feel like going back to playing tennis and soccer ! I quit doing that some time ago.. As i said before, I’ve also run the stairs like I haven’t done in some time… I’m glad you’ve also used, so I’m not the only person anymore… Thanks, Greetings from the Netherlands, Ed Sources for information : Treating Crohns Disease with DMSO / B12 / Folic Accid http://www.krysalis-sparx.com/crohn.htm Testiomials http://www.krysalis-sparx.com/crohntest.htm Info on DMSO http://www.medical-library.net/sites/_dmso_(dimethylsulfoxide).html Double blind medical study about treating Crohns with DMSO http://www.dmso.org/articles/intestinal/colitis1.htm A study confirming the B12 deficiency in Crohns patients : Study of nutritional status in recently diagnosed patients with inflammatory bowel disease Patients with inflammatory bowel disease (IBD) often have malnutrition, although little is known regarding the nutritional status in patients with recently diagnosed IBD. This investigation aimed to study the nutritional status of this population, and included 69 IBD patients (23 with Crohn_s disease [CD] and 46 with ulcerative colitis [UC]) and 69 age- and sex-matched population controls. The following parameters were used to assess their nutritional status: (1) body composition (anthropometry and dual-energy X-ray absorptiometry); (2) dietary intake (dietary history); (3) biochemical indexes of nutrition; and (4) muscle strength (isokinetic dynamometer). The results showed that UC patients had lower body weight and body mass index than controls; the mean daily intake of carbohydrates was higher in CD patients than controls, and the intake of protein, calcium, phosphorus and riboflavin was lower in UC patients than controls. When looking at serum concentrations of nutrients such as beta-carotene, magnesium, selenium and zinc, they were significantly lower in UC patients compared with controls. CD patients had significantly lower serum vitamin B12 concentration. Regarding muscle strength, it did not differ between IBD patients and controls. In conclusion, when IBD is diagnosed, the nutritional status is already affected negatively. These results suggest that nutritional supplementation could play a role regarding the clinical course of the disease in recently diagnosed IBD patients. (Geerling, B.J. et al. Eur J Clin Nutr 2000; 54(6): 514-521.)
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Ed, thanks for the link to the MSM stuff! Good health to you Nick
– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – I’ve read that Pure DMSO is not absorbed as readily as DMSO that is diluted. Also remember seeing something about different dilutions being more effective for different things. Sorry I can’t be more specific but you may want to look into it. Most of the over the counter or over the internet DMSO is available diluted with 30% water or aloe vera. The aloe is supposed to help minimize the itching, but my experience is that it still itches a little. I have used DMSO several times over the last 10 years or so and have never noticed any ill effects or anything I can attribute to it carrying stuff with it through the skin BUT it is a possibility. Normal hygiene and rinse well, plane ol’ soap, no deodorant or anything that implies that it ‘leaves’ protection on you. Also it is likely that you clothing may have a dye in it so be careful. If you must keep moving, I have heard that some people wrap the application site with Saran Wrap. Very glad to hear that it seems to be working for you Ed. I am still wondering if MSM would be of use for Crohn’s. Anybody tried it? Kim Hi Kim, Thanks for your info.. I’ve used MSM for three weeks orso. I think it did help a bit (but I’m not sure because I also used melatonin at that time)… My big intestines started to work a lot better, they dehydrated the residue much better. I didn’t help for my anemia or my general feeling.. I also didn’t gain weight… A quote from : http://www.msm.com/book/msm-part1.html (The Miracle of MSM by S.W. Jacob M.D.) 77 MSM and Inflammation Oral MSM helps relieve inflammatory bowel conditions such as Crohn’s
disease and ulcerative colitis. Crohns usually affects the lower segment of the small intestine, causing both severe pain and diarrhea. The diarrhea, in turn, leads to painful irritation and inflammation in the perineal area between the anus and the genitals. MSM helps reduce the inflammation in the gut, which will lessen pain and diarrhea. This in turn reduces inflammation of the perineal tissue. Ulcerative colitis involves inflammation of the inner lining of the colon
and rectum. The effect of MSM here is the same as it is with Crohn’s. Patients report a lessening of symptoms and a more normal stool size, color, and frequency. Ulcerative colitis is associated with an increased risk of colon cancer. Both of these conditions often generate secondary inflammation in the
joints. MSM helps reduce the inflammation in the joints as well as the intestines – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Thanks, Ed
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Kim After 9 months of active crohns, I did several things, stopped eating salad, stopped drinking my one cup of coffee, stopped drinking my one glass of wine and started taking 1 3mg Melatonin every night & two Glucosomine and MSM capsules (500mg each) every other day. I felt better within a couple of days. Now the problem is I don’t know why. Though I suspect a Dr. or most folks in this newsgroup would say I simply went into a partial remission. Maybe so. Maybe not. Since Nov 7 when I started I’ve introduced and occasional cup of coffee and wine, but kept out the salad and increased the G & MSM. No change, still feel good! Is the MSM helping? Well it sure as heck isn’t hurting! At considerable risk (since I’ll have to feel bad again to find it) I plan on trying to target which of these factors has the biggest bang. I’ll let you know. Try what you can that is within the limits of "safe" and see what works for you. Keep us posted. Nick
– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – I’ve read that Pure DMSO is not absorbed as readily as DMSO that is diluted. Also remember seeing something about different dilutions being more effective for different things. Sorry I can’t be more specific but you may want to look into it. Most of the over the counter or over the internet DMSO is available diluted with 30% water or aloe vera. The aloe is supposed to help minimize the itching, but my experience is that it still itches a little. I have used DMSO several times over the last 10 years or so and have never noticed any ill effects or anything I can attribute to it carrying stuff with it through the skin BUT it is a possibility. Normal hygiene and rinse well, plane ol’ soap, no deodorant or anything that implies that it ‘leaves’ protection on you. Also it is likely that you clothing may have a dye in it so be careful. If you must keep moving, I have heard that some people wrap the application site with Saran Wrap. Very glad to hear that it seems to be working for you Ed. I am still wondering if MSM would be of use for Crohn’s. Anybody tried it? Kim I’m also trying DMSO.. I’m doing really fine now… I’ve gained 2,5 – 3 kilos in about a week since first applying DMSO ! I went down from 72 to 65 and after using DMSO I’m 67,5 – 68 again ! My energy level is a lot higher.. I use pure DMSO (99% pure) and I’ve also dissolved B12 in it… What helps the itching is mixing the DMSO, with 30% water… I clean my stumach using water only (also wash your hands carefully).. Also, when the DMSO has entered your body, apply some water on the places that itch.. The itching is primarily caused by the dehydration.. I also feel like going back to playing tennis and soccer ! I quit doing that some time ago.. As i said before, I’ve also run the stairs like I haven’t done in some time… I’m glad you’ve also used, so I’m not the only person anymore… Thanks, Greetings from the Netherlands, Ed Sources for information : Treating Crohns Disease with DMSO / B12 / Folic Accid http://www.krysalis-sparx.com/crohn.htm Testiomials http://www.krysalis-sparx.com/crohntest.htm Info on DMSO http://www.medical-library.net/sites/_dmso_(dimethylsulfoxide).html Double blind medical study about treating Crohns with DMSO http://www.dmso.org/articles/intestinal/colitis1.htm A study confirming the B12 deficiency in Crohns patients : Study of nutritional status in recently diagnosed patients with inflammatory bowel disease Patients with inflammatory bowel disease (IBD) often have malnutrition, although little is known regarding the nutritional status in patients with recently diagnosed IBD. This investigation aimed to study the nutritional status of this population, and included 69 IBD patients (23 with Crohn_s disease [CD] and 46 with ulcerative colitis [UC]) and 69 age- and sex-matched population controls. The following parameters were used to assess their nutritional status: (1) body composition (anthropometry and dual-energy X-ray absorptiometry); (2) dietary intake (dietary history); (3) biochemical indexes of nutrition; and (4) muscle strength (isokinetic dynamometer). The results showed that UC patients had lower body weight and body mass index than controls; the mean daily intake of carbohydrates was higher in CD patients than controls, and the intake of protein, calcium, phosphorus and riboflavin was lower in UC patients than controls. When looking at serum concentrations of nutrients such as beta-carotene, magnesium, selenium and zinc, they were significantly lower in UC patients compared with controls. CD patients had significantly lower serum vitamin B12 concentration. Regarding muscle strength, it did not differ between IBD patients and controls. In conclusion, when IBD is diagnosed, the nutritional status is already affected negatively. These results suggest that nutritional supplementation could play a role regarding the clinical course of the disease in recently diagnosed IBD patients. (Geerling, B.J. et al. Eur J Clin Nutr 2000; 54(6): 514-521.)
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what is MSM? – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Kim After 9 months of active crohns, I did several things, stopped eating salad, stopped drinking my one cup of coffee, stopped drinking my one glass of wine and started taking 1 3mg Melatonin every night & two Glucosomine and MSM capsules (500mg each) every other day. I felt better within a couple of days. Now the problem is I don’t know why. Though I suspect a Dr. or most folks in this newsgroup would say I simply went into a partial remission. Maybe so. Maybe not. Since Nov 7 when I started I’ve introduced and occasional cup of coffee and wine, but kept out the salad and increased the G & MSM. No change, still feel good! Is the MSM helping? Well it sure as heck isn’t hurting! At considerable risk (since I’ll have to feel bad again to find it) I plan on trying to target which of these factors has the biggest bang. I’ll let you know. Try what you can that is within the limits of "safe" and see what works for you. Keep us posted. Nick I’ve read that Pure DMSO is not absorbed as readily as DMSO that is diluted. Also remember seeing something about different dilutions being more effective for different things. Sorry I can’t be more specific but you may want to look into it. Most of the over the counter or over the internet DMSO is available diluted with 30% water or aloe vera. The aloe is supposed to help minimize the itching, but my experience is that it still itches a little. I have used DMSO several times over the last 10 years or so and have never noticed any ill effects or anything I can attribute to it carrying stuff with it through the skin BUT it is a possibility. Normal hygiene and rinse well, plane ol’ soap, no deodorant or anything that implies that it ‘leaves’ protection on you. Also it is likely that you clothing may have a dye in it so be careful. If you must keep moving, I have heard that some people wrap the application site with Saran Wrap. Very glad to hear that it seems to be working for you Ed. I am still wondering if MSM would be of use for Crohn’s. Anybody tried it? Kim I’m also trying DMSO.. I’m doing really fine now… I’ve gained 2,5 – 3 kilos in about a week since first applying DMSO ! I went down from 72 to 65 and after using DMSO I’m 67,5 – 68 again ! My energy level is a lot higher.. I use pure DMSO (99% pure) and I’ve also dissolved B12 in it… What helps the itching is mixing the DMSO, with 30% water… I clean my stumach using water only (also wash your hands carefully).. Also, when the DMSO has entered your body, apply some water on the places that itch.. The itching is primarily caused by the dehydration.. I also feel like going back to playing tennis and soccer ! I quit doing that some time ago.. As i said before, I’ve also run the stairs like I haven’t done in some time… I’m glad you’ve also used, so I’m not the only person anymore… Thanks, Greetings from the Netherlands, Ed Sources for information : Treating Crohns Disease with DMSO / B12 / Folic Accid http://www.krysalis-sparx.com/crohn.htm Testiomials http://www.krysalis-sparx.com/crohntest.htm Info on DMSO http://www.medical-library.net/sites/_dmso_(dimethylsulfoxide).html Double blind medical study about treating Crohns with DMSO http://www.dmso.org/articles/intestinal/colitis1.htm A study confirming the B12 deficiency in Crohns patients : Study of nutritional status in recently diagnosed patients with inflammatory bowel disease Patients with inflammatory bowel disease (IBD) often have malnutrition, although little is known regarding the nutritional status in patients with recently diagnosed IBD. This investigation aimed to study the nutritional status of this population, and included 69 IBD patients (23 with Crohn_s disease [CD] and 46 with ulcerative colitis [UC]) and 69 age- and sex-matched population controls. The following parameters were used to assess their nutritional status: (1) body composition (anthropometry and dual-energy X-ray absorptiometry); (2) dietary intake (dietary history); (3) biochemical indexes of nutrition; and (4) muscle strength (isokinetic dynamometer). The results showed that UC patients had lower body weight and body mass index than controls; the mean daily intake of carbohydrates was higher in CD patients than controls, and the intake of protein, calcium, phosphorus and riboflavin was lower in UC patients than controls. When looking at serum concentrations of nutrients such as beta-carotene, magnesium, selenium and zinc, they were significantly lower in UC patients compared with controls. CD patients had significantly lower serum vitamin B12 concentration. Regarding muscle strength, it did not differ between IBD patients and controls. In conclusion, when IBD is diagnosed, the nutritional status is already affected negatively. These results suggest that nutritional supplementation could play a role regarding the clinical course of the disease in recently diagnosed IBD patients. (Geerling, B.J. et al. Eur J Clin Nutr 2000; 54(6): 514-521.)
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- Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – I’ve read that Pure DMSO is not absorbed as readily as DMSO that is diluted. Also remember seeing something about different dilutions being more effective for different things. Sorry I can’t be more specific but you may want to look into it. Most of the over the counter or over the internet DMSO is available diluted with 30% water or aloe vera. The aloe is supposed to help minimize the itching, but my experience is that it still itches a little. I have used DMSO several times over the last 10 years or so and have never noticed any ill effects or anything I can attribute to it carrying stuff with it through the skin BUT it is a possibility. Normal hygiene and rinse well, plane ol’ soap, no deodorant or anything that implies that it ‘leaves’ protection on you. Also it is likely that you clothing may have a dye in it so be careful. If you must keep moving, I have heard that some people wrap the application site with Saran Wrap. Very glad to hear that it seems to be working for you Ed. I am still wondering if MSM would be of use for Crohn’s. Anybody tried it? Kim
Hi Kim, Thanks for your info.. I’ve used MSM for three weeks orso. I think it did help a bit (but I’m not sure because I also used melatonin at that time)… My big intestines started to work a lot better, they dehydrated the residue much better. I didn’t help for my anemia or my general feeling.. I also didn’t gain weight… A quote from : http://www.msm.com/book/msm-part1.html (The Miracle of MSM by S.W. Jacob M.D.) 77 MSM and Inflammation Oral MSM helps relieve inflammatory bowel conditions such as Crohn’s disease and ulcerative colitis. Crohns usually affects the lower segment of the small intestine, causing both severe pain and diarrhea. The diarrhea, in turn, leads to painful irritation and inflammation in the perineal area between the anus and the genitals. MSM helps reduce the inflammation in the gut, which will lessen pain and diarrhea. This in turn reduces inflammation of the perineal tissue. Ulcerative colitis involves inflammation of the inner lining of the colon and rectum. The effect of MSM here is the same as it is with Crohn’s. Patients report a lessening of symptoms and a more normal stool size, color, and frequency. Ulcerative colitis is associated with an increased risk of colon cancer. Both of these conditions often generate secondary inflammation in the joints. MSM helps reduce the inflammation in the joints as well as the intestines
Thanks, Ed
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What type of health food store? I can’t find it anywhere. Are you in the US? Nick
Hi Nick, I’ve bought my DMSO here : http://store.yahoo.com/dmso1/index.html They also send the DMSO to almost every country ! Also try this one : http://www.dmso.net/pricelist.htm Please note : I’m not spamming, and I’m in no way connected to any of the above stores… I’m just trying to help someone… Thanks, Greetings from the Netherlands, Ed
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I’ve read that Pure DMSO is not absorbed as readily as DMSO that is diluted. Also remember seeing something about different dilutions being more effective for different things. Sorry I can’t be more specific but you may want to look into it. Most of the over the counter or over the internet DMSO is available diluted with 30% water or aloe vera. The aloe is supposed to help minimize the itching, but my experience is that it still itches a little. I have used DMSO several times over the last 10 years or so and have never noticed any ill effects or anything I can attribute to it carrying stuff with it through the skin BUT it is a possibility. Normal hygiene and rinse well, plane ol’ soap, no deodorant or anything that implies that it ‘leaves’ protection on you. Also it is likely that you clothing may have a dye in it so be careful. If you must keep moving, I have heard that some people wrap the application site with Saran Wrap. Very glad to hear that it seems to be working for you Ed. I am still wondering if MSM would be of use for Crohn’s. Anybody tried it? Kim – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – I’m also trying DMSO.. I’m doing really fine now… I’ve gained 2,5 – 3 kilos in about a week since first applying DMSO ! I went down from 72 to 65 and after using DMSO I’m 67,5 – 68 again ! My energy level is a lot higher.. I use pure DMSO (99% pure) and I’ve also dissolved B12 in it… What helps the itching is mixing the DMSO, with 30% water… I clean my stumach using water only (also wash your hands carefully).. Also, when the DMSO has entered your body, apply some water on the places that itch.. The itching is primarily caused by the dehydration.. I also feel like going back to playing tennis and soccer ! I quit doing that some time ago.. As i said before, I’ve also run the stairs like I haven’t done in some time… I’m glad you’ve also used, so I’m not the only person anymore… Thanks, Greetings from the Netherlands, Ed Sources for information : Treating Crohns Disease with DMSO / B12 / Folic Accid http://www.krysalis-sparx.com/crohn.htm Testiomials http://www.krysalis-sparx.com/crohntest.htm Info on DMSO http://www.medical-library.net/sites/_dmso_(dimethylsulfoxide).html Double blind medical study about treating Crohns with DMSO http://www.dmso.org/articles/intestinal/colitis1.htm A study confirming the B12 deficiency in Crohns patients : Study of nutritional status in recently diagnosed patients with inflammatory bowel disease Patients with inflammatory bowel disease (IBD) often have malnutrition, although little is known regarding the nutritional status in patients with recently diagnosed IBD. This investigation aimed to study the nutritional status of this population, and included 69 IBD patients (23 with Crohn_s disease [CD] and 46 with ulcerative colitis [UC]) and 69 age- and sex-matched population controls. The following parameters were used to assess their nutritional status: (1) body composition (anthropometry and dual-energy X-ray absorptiometry); (2) dietary intake (dietary history); (3) biochemical indexes of nutrition; and (4) muscle strength (isokinetic dynamometer). The results showed that UC patients had lower body weight and body mass index than controls; the mean daily intake of carbohydrates was higher in CD patients than controls, and the intake of protein, calcium, phosphorus and riboflavin was lower in UC patients than controls. When looking at serum concentrations of nutrients such as beta-carotene, magnesium, selenium and zinc, they were significantly lower in UC patients compared with controls. CD patients had significantly lower serum vitamin B12 concentration. Regarding muscle strength, it did not differ between IBD patients and controls. In conclusion, when IBD is diagnosed, the nutritional status is already affected negatively. These results suggest that nutritional supplementation could play a role regarding the clinical course of the disease in recently diagnosed IBD patients. (Geerling, B.J. et al. Eur J Clin Nutr 2000; 54(6): 514-521.)
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I’m still really new to this group so I don’t know if I’m just repeating things that everybody else has been through. But after finding several interesting articles on DSMO and Crohns/Colitis. I really thought I should try it. After the first three days, my flare up has calmed down a whole bunch ( I mean alot!) and I’ve also elliminated a back pain that I’ve dealt with for the past year. Although I have to admit.. the gel does burn a little. Am I missing something here because there’s only a few messages even mentioning it?
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Hi–glad to hear you’re feeling better. Where did you get the DSMO and did you add anything to it? The theory sounds weird but , if it works, the theory will sound much better. Thanx and stay well! Mel – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -I’m still really new to this group so I don’t know if I’m just repeating things that everybody else has been through. But after finding several interesting articles on DSMO and Crohns/Colitis. I really thought I should try it. After the first three days, my flare up has calmed down a whole bunch ( I mean alot!) and I’ve also elliminated a back pain that I’ve dealt with for the past year. Although I have to admit.. the gel does burn a little. Am I missing something here because there’s only a few messages even mentioning it?
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I grabbed a jar of the DSMO at the health food store. It was around the MSM. And it’s pretty cheap. It looks like it can be ordered through animal supply catologues because they use it for horses as a muscle ointment. It’s interesting. I keep finding more articles on it. I decided to do the vit B12 and folic acid combo but I’m not doing that topically like the cream. I have a history of fitness training and massage therapy and it sort of makes sense the more I look into it. In fact, this morning I went to the gym and was doing leg squats which puts alot of stress in that region and I came through it excellent.
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Even washing the skin prior to DMSO application can cause problems, because (guess what) soap residue can be carried into the body with the DMSO. If anyone plans on using DMSO as a ‘therapy’, keep in mind that what it can bring ‘into’ the body along with it, can kill you (and that is anything on the skin), or at least make you very very sick. I dont know the odds, but I know it can (and does) happen. I’m not going to preach, just warn anyone who may not be aware. Andy
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I grabbed a jar of the DSMO at the health food store. It was around the MSM. And it’s pretty cheap. It looks like it can be ordered through animal supply catologues because they use it for horses as a muscle ointment. It’s interesting. I keep finding more articles on it. I decided to do the vit B12 and folic acid combo but I’m not doing that topically like the cream. I have a history of fitness training and massage therapy and it sort of makes sense the more I look into it. In fact, this morning I went to the gym and was doing leg squats which puts alot of stress in that region and I came through it excellent.
Hi, I’m also trying DMSO.. I’m doing really fine now… I’ve gained 2,5 – 3 kilos in about a week since first applying DMSO ! I went down from 72 to 65 and after using DMSO I’m 67,5 – 68 again ! My energy level is a lot higher.. I use pure DMSO (99% pure) and I’ve also dissolved B12 in it… What helps the itching is mixing the DMSO, with 30% water… I clean my stumach using water only (also wash your hands carefully).. Also, when the DMSO has entered your body, apply some water on the places that itch.. The itching is primarily caused by the dehydration.. I also feel like going back to playing tennis and soccer ! I quit doing that some time ago.. As i said before, I’ve also run the stairs like I haven’t done in some time… I’m glad you’ve also used, so I’m not the only person anymore… Thanks, Greetings from the Netherlands, Ed Sources for information : Treating Crohns Disease with DMSO / B12 / Folic Accid http://www.krysalis-sparx.com/crohn.htm Testiomials http://www.krysalis-sparx.com/crohntest.htm Info on DMSO http://www.medical-library.net/sites/_dmso_(dimethylsulfoxide).html Double blind medical study about treating Crohns with DMSO http://www.dmso.org/articles/intestinal/colitis1.htm A study confirming the B12 deficiency in Crohns patients : Study of nutritional status in recently diagnosed patients with inflammatory bowel disease Patients with inflammatory bowel disease (IBD) often have malnutrition, although little is known regarding the nutritional status in patients with recently diagnosed IBD. This investigation aimed to study the nutritional status of this population, and included 69 IBD patients (23 with Crohn_s disease [CD] and 46 with ulcerative colitis [UC]) and 69 age- and sex-matched population controls. The following parameters were used to assess their nutritional status: (1) body composition (anthropometry and dual-energy X-ray absorptiometry); (2) dietary intake (dietary history); (3) biochemical indexes of nutrition; and (4) muscle strength (isokinetic dynamometer). The results showed that UC patients had lower body weight and body mass index than controls; the mean daily intake of carbohydrates was higher in CD patients than controls, and the intake of protein, calcium, phosphorus and riboflavin was lower in UC patients than controls. When looking at serum concentrations of nutrients such as beta-carotene, magnesium, selenium and zinc, they were significantly lower in UC patients compared with controls. CD patients had significantly lower serum vitamin B12 concentration. Regarding muscle strength, it did not differ between IBD patients and controls. In conclusion, when IBD is diagnosed, the nutritional status is already affected negatively. These results suggest that nutritional supplementation could play a role regarding the clinical course of the disease in recently diagnosed IBD patients. (Geerling, B.J. et al. Eur J Clin Nutr 2000; 54(6): 514-521.)
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Have you read this medical study on DMSO and colitis. Mike F http://www.dmso.org/articles/intestinal/colitis1.htm
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What type of health food store? I can’t find it anywhere. Are you in the US? Nick
– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – I grabbed a jar of the DSMO at the health food store. It was around the MSM. And it’s pretty cheap. It looks like it can be ordered through animal supply catologues because they use it for horses as a muscle ointment. It’s interesting. I keep finding more articles on it. I decided to do the vit B12 and folic acid combo but I’m not doing that topically like the cream. I have a history of fitness training and massage therapy and it sort of makes sense the more I look into it. In fact, this morning I went to the gym and was doing leg squats which puts alot of stress in that region and I came through it excellent.
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From what I’ve read, DSMO can be used by itself or be used as a vehicle for getting other substances through the skin and into the system. But I’ve also read that for this reason, there is the potential for it to introduce undesirable foreign substances (ie. bacteria). My warning would be to carefully wash the skin prior to applying the DSMO. I tried it years ago but the irritation was too much. Diana CD ‘81
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This time I asked for it though and he agreed. Can’t take a chance of this inflamation getting out of control on islands that I can’t even drink the water. No way I will have medical there!! 
) UM MOM Susan 
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My doc said something about mexathtrate*spelling* for the arthritis ..Whats that like??? I was on 6 mp for colitis for a couple of months and I had to come off that because it was to strong for me and kept me nausiated all the time.Is this mexathratate that strong?? Also, I have searched the net for some sites that tells about arthritis from colitis, and have come up empty handed. Is there such a site? Any suggestions as to wher to get infor about this?? Tina UC 95 
/ What a nasty booboo they leave