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Have You Ever Noticed
Question:
That smokers never seem to have a problem with second hand smoke and if they arew told about it they just scoff and call you a chronic complainer? I have a PLEASE DO NOT SMOKE sign posted on the wall by the kitchen table wher we allcongregate for meals, coffee, talk etc. Everyone laughs about ti and eventually it was covered with something else. I have never smoked yet I’m the ons cursed by this problem and the smokers are off scot free. Sorry if I sound a little bitter but I had to sound off and I thought I might find some sympathetic ears here. As it is now I just leave the room when someone lights up even if it’s company.
Response:
On Sat, 18 Nov 2000 04:28:31 -0800 (PST), CWBO…@webtv.net (Boots B) wrote:
That smokers never seem to have a problem with second hand smoke
Well, to smokers, second-hand smoke is just another source to feed their nicotine addiction.
I have a PLEASE DO NOT SMOKE sign posted on the wall by the kitchen table wher we allcongregate for meals, coffee, talk etc. Everyone laughs about ti
What you need is a medical-looking contraption (hey, even a CPAP mask might work) and a sign that says "OXYGEN IN USE – NO SMOKING."
I just leave the room when someone lights up even if it’s company.
I think all the smokers in the family have puffed themselves into an early grave…. or they got the message when the rest of the family generally lived until their 80’s except the smokers. — On CPAP @ 15 cm since August 1998. Sullivan V blower, MIRAGE mask
Response:
One interesting thing as a smoker for 35 years, that stopped about 8 years ago.— A smoker has no idea at all what you are talking about because they (we) cannot smell second hand smoke at all, when we are a smoker. It’s like trying to teach a deaf person the beauty of singing. There is no way smokers can relate to what you are talking about. Now, after the years of not smoking, I find it disgusting that I am breathing in and smelling the odor that smoking people continuously breathe out of the bottom of their lungs. I can’t believe my wife put up with my breath all those years. Like I said, I could not smell it. Having said all that, I decided when I quit that I would absolutely NOT become a "Born Again Non-Smoker". If people smoke around me, I may not care at all for it, but I don’t raise hell. I adapt. God, how I hated the rantings of the "Born Again Non-Smokers" who insisted on telling me how bad it was, I was degrading their lives, while they chugged their beer or gin, and ran around on their wives, etc. Hypocrites that wanted the world to fit into THEIR mold, by THEIR standards, and nothing less. However, if the doc said I had 2 months to live, I would go buy some cigarettes because it was a chemical/mental habit which calmed me and I enjoyed it very much. –An ex smoker that will not tell the world to change because I did— The Bible does not have the books of "Matthew, Mark, Luke and Ron", so until it does, I have to adapt to the real world around me. Best to all– Ron – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -Boots B wrote:
That smokers never seem to have a problem with second hand smoke and if they arew told about it they just scoff and call you a chronic complainer? I have a PLEASE DO NOT SMOKE sign posted on the wall by the kitchen table wher we allcongregate for meals, coffee, talk etc. Everyone laughs about ti and eventually it was covered with something else. I have never smoked yet I’m the ons cursed by this problem and the smokers are off scot free. Sorry if I sound a little bitter but I had to sound off and I thought I might find some sympathetic ears here. As it is now I just leave the room when someone lights up even if it’s company.
Response:
On Sun, 19 Nov 2000 11:13:25 -0600, Ron Gould <r…@gould.net
wrote: It’s a chemical/mental habit, some Board Certified Doctors say it is about as hard to stop as Heroin.
Some board-eligible doctors (the rest of them) probably say the same thing. Nicotine and opiates both fiddle with our old friends, the neurotransmiiters. — On CPAP @ 15 cm since August 1998. Sullivan V blower, MIRAGE mask
Response:
- Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -Ron Gould wrote:
One interesting thing as a smoker for 35 years, that stopped about 8 years ago.— A smoker has no idea at all what you are talking about because they (we) cannot smell second hand smoke at all, when we are a smoker. It’s like trying to teach a deaf person the beauty of singing. There is no way smokers can relate to what you are talking about. Now, after the years of not smoking, I find it disgusting that I am breathing in and smelling the odor that smoking people continuously breathe out of the bottom of their lungs. I can’t believe my wife put up with my breath all those years. Like I said, I could not smell it. Having said all that, I decided when I quit that I would absolutely NOT become a "Born Again Non-Smoker". If people smoke around me, I may not care at all for it, but I don’t raise hell. I adapt. God, how I hated the rantings of the "Born Again Non-Smokers" who insisted on telling me how bad it was, I was degrading their lives, while they chugged their beer or gin, and ran around on their wives, etc. Hypocrites that wanted the world to fit into THEIR mold, by THEIR standards, and nothing less. However, if the doc said I had 2 months to live, I would go buy some cigarettes because it was a chemical/mental habit which calmed me and I enjoyed it very much. –An ex smoker that will not tell the world to change because I did— The Bible does not have the books of "Matthew, Mark, Luke and Ron", so until it does, I have to adapt to the real world around me. Best to all– Ron Boots B wrote:
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Applause, applause. I quit 18 months ago, and am just starting to dislike the smell of second hand smoke. A number of my friends and family still smoke, and, when I was a smoker, one of the biggest irritations was not being able to smoke. As a result, I would be forced to step outside etc and, ultimately, the visits with those people became infrequent. Since I quit, I have told everyone who smokes to feel free. I’ll have to put up with it eventually, and I don’t want to chase friends and family away. The one thing one needs remember is that smoking (nicotine) is just about the most addictive substance known to man. It far outstrips heroin and the other normally "addictive drugs". It was a hell of a battle and 18 months later I still want to smoke, maybe not every day, but frequently enough to still make it a problem. I guess it boils down to whether or not you want friends and family to be comfortable visiting you if they are smokers. I know, I’ve heard it’s my house and they "should" show some respect, but "they" don’t have the vaguest idea what you are talking about and it makes a get-together far more trying for them. Just my $0.02. — "I do this really moronic thing that the government doesn’t want me to do. It is called thinking" – George Carlin Remove * * to reply.
Response:
Just a P.S.– I don’t mean my message to belittle those who complain about smoke—it is very real and repulsive. I simply meant to show the other half of the picture, to hopefully help others understand it some. It’s a chemical/mental habit, some Board Certified Doctors say it is about as hard to stop as Heroin. Oddly enough, there is a benifit to smoking. It helps minimize the effects of chron’s disease and ulcerative colitis. Many Gastroenterologists are now using the patch to help their patients. In the group I am in, about 20% had their intestinal surgery within 1-2 years after stopping smoking. But don’t use this as an excuse,as the doctors say. The patch helps just fine. If anyone wants the link to Gastro and smoking and IBD (Bowel), I will send it later on your request. Best to you—- Ron – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -Boots B wrote:
That smokers never seem to have a problem with second hand smoke and if they arew told about it they just scoff and call you a chronic complainer? I have a PLEASE DO NOT SMOKE sign posted on the wall by the kitchen table wher we allcongregate for meals, coffee, talk etc. Everyone laughs about ti and eventually it was covered with something else. I have never smoked yet I’m the ons cursed by this problem and the smokers are off scot free. Sorry if I sound a little bitter but I had to sound off and I thought I might find some sympathetic ears here. As it is now I just leave the room when someone lights up even if it’s company.
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