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Hi all, I have Crohn’s-Colitis, which affects both my large and small intestines. I also have ankylosing spondalitis, a type of arthritis which can attack any or all of my joints at once. I have pain of one type or another every day. I want to try and figure out a type of pain med that can help me without killing my stomach. I just had a bad arthritis incident and the Doc prescribed me Vioxx. I had to stop taking it after two days as I developed a low grade fever, had persistent heartburn and some major abdominal pain. Hopefully it didn’t give me an ulcer. Today I can barely get out of bed and I am just weak. I have a temp. of 100 today. Any advice? Thanks, Ann
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Sorry I can’t help you but just wanted you to know that you are not alone.. Ronnie An Antique *Girl*
– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Hi all, I have Crohn’s-Colitis, which affects both my large and small intestines. I also have ankylosing spondalitis, a type of arthritis which can attack any or all of my joints at once. I have pain of one type or another every day. I want to try and figure out a type of pain med that can help me without killing my stomach. I just had a bad arthritis incident and the Doc prescribed me Vioxx. I had to stop taking it after two days as I developed a low grade fever, had persistent heartburn and some major abdominal pain. Hopefully it didn’t give me an ulcer. Today I can barely get out of bed and I am just weak. I have a temp. of 100 today. Any advice? Thanks, Ann
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Hello Ann, You certainly have your share of pain to deal with – and then some! It sounds as though the anti-inflamitories are out of the question for you. It’s been said before, but they are dangerous to many people, not only for the side effects you just experienced, but also for causing bleeding. Have you ever tried opiates of any kind? While they might not directly treat the inflamation of the spondalitis, they might well help your pain level in general. I have Chrohns’, and oxycontin seems to have a calming effect on it that none of the other meds designed specifically for intestinal problems does. Best to you, codeee – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -Hi all, I have Crohn’s-Colitis, which affects both my large and small intestines. I also have ankylosing spondalitis, a type of arthritis which can attack any or all of my joints at once. I have pain of one type or another every day. I want to try and figure out a type of pain med that can help me without killing my stomach. I just had a bad arthritis incident and the Doc prescribed me Vioxx. I had to stop taking it after two days as I developed a low grade fever, had persistent heartburn and some major abdominal pain. Hopefully it didn’t give me an ulcer. Today I can barely get out of bed and I am just weak. I have a temp. of 100 today. Any advice? Thanks, Ann
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How about the Cox-II inhibitor class of anti-inflammatories? Are they helpful for Chrohns? — Katharine S. Design is the art of effectively communicating a message while making the communication medium invisible.
– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Hello Ann, You certainly have your share of pain to deal with – and then some! It sounds as though the anti-inflamitories are out of the question for you. It’s been said before, but they are dangerous to many people, not only for the side effects you just experienced, but also for causing bleeding. Have you ever tried opiates of any kind? While they might not directly treat the inflamation of the spondalitis, they might well help your pain level in general. I have Chrohns’, and oxycontin seems to have a calming effect on it that none of the other meds designed specifically for intestinal problems does. Best to you, codeee Hi all, I have Crohn’s-Colitis, which affects both my large and small intestines. I also have ankylosing spondalitis, a type of arthritis which can attack any or all of my joints at once. I have pain of one type or another every day. I want to try and figure out a type of pain med that can help me without killing my stomach. I just had a bad arthritis incident and the Doc prescribed me Vioxx. I had to stop taking it after two days as I developed a low grade fever, had persistent heartburn and some major abdominal pain. Hopefully it didn’t give me an ulcer. Today I can barely get out of bed and I am just weak. I have a temp. of 100 today. Any advice? Thanks, Ann
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: How about the Cox-II inhibitor class of anti-inflammatories? Are they : helpful for Chrohns? Katharine: Vioxx is one of the COX-IIs. — Mouse <:3)))))~~ "This invisible man has a place for you full of fire, smoke, burning and torture and he will send you there to choke, scream, die, suffer and burn for the end of time. But he *loves* you!" ~George Carlin : : : — : Katharine S. : Design is the art of effectively communicating a message while making the : communication medium invisible. : : :
: Hello Ann, : : You certainly have your share of pain to deal with – and then : some! It sounds as though the anti-inflamitories are out of the : question for you. It’s been said before, but they are dangerous to : many people, not only for the side effects you just experienced, but : also for causing bleeding. : : Have you ever tried opiates of any kind? While they might not : directly treat the inflamation of the spondalitis, they might well : help your pain level in general. I have Chrohns’, and oxycontin seems : to have a calming effect on it that none of the other meds designed : specifically for intestinal problems does. : : Best to you, : codeee : : Hi all, : : I have Crohn’s-Colitis, which affects both my large and small intestines. : I : also have ankylosing spondalitis, a type of arthritis which can attack : any : or all of my joints at once. I have pain of one type or another every : day. : I want to try and figure out a type of pain med that can help me without : killing my stomach. : : I just had a bad arthritis incident and the Doc prescribed me Vioxx. I : had : to stop taking it after two days as I developed a low grade fever, had : persistent heartburn and some major abdominal pain. Hopefully it didn’t : give me an ulcer. Today I can barely get out of bed and I am just weak. : I : have a temp. of 100 today. Any advice? : : Thanks, : : : Ann : : : :
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: How about the Cox-II inhibitor class of anti-inflammatories? Are they : helpful for Chrohns? Katharine: Vioxx is one of the COX-IIs.
Oh, ok 
Weird that it’s giving Ann stomach problems, that’s what it’s designed to avoid! Mind you, there’s still some questions about how effective they are in that regard. Ann, I wonder whether it’s actually not that, but something else causing your symptoms, not the Vioxx? — Katharine S. Put "eat chocolate" at the top of your list of things to do today. That way, at least you’ll get one thing done.
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Katharine: : How about the Cox-II inhibitor class of anti-inflammatories? Are they : helpful for Chrohns?
Mouse: Katharine: Vioxx is one of the COX-IIs.
Katharine: Oh, ok Weird that it’s giving Ann stomach problems, that’s what it’s designed to avoid! Mind you, there’s still some questions about how effective they are in that regard. Ann, I wonder whether it’s actually not that, but something else causing your symptoms, not the Vioxx?
The Cox-II inhibitors still cause stomach problems, they are just LESS likely to cause fatal ulcers than aspirin or older anti-inflammatories. Unfortunately, the manufacturers (who have an obvious reason to want everyone to think of these pills as safer than candy) have published some very misleading articles in medical journals. When the drugs first came out, they published a report of a big study – they reported it as a 6-month study with very good results, no deaths, very few serious ulcers. This was quoted in all the advertising. It came out later that it had really been a year-long study, with most of the ulcers and all the deaths happening in the second half of the year…the medical journal was very embarrassed. They are supposed to only publish good articles, with honest and well-done science. They are not supposed to accept implicit bribes from companies that buy lots and lots of advertising. The reports saying Cox-II inhibitors are perfectly safe got a lot of publicity from the medical journals, and they are quoted in all the product advertising. Doctors remember them. The later reports saying they’re more dangerous than they seem were embarrassing to both the drug companies and the medical journals. Doctors are much less likely to remember them in enough detail to use the information, though they might vaguely recall there was a scandal about a medical journal publishing a misleading study. It’s possible that Ann just came down with a viral infection when she started taking the Vioxx. But stomach irritation is a known side effect of Vioxx. It doesn’t happen to everyone, but it’s very real to the people it does happen to.
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I do have a friend who took Vioxx with no problem, then tried switching over to Celebrex (another Cox-II, if I am not mistaken) and Celebrex caused him bad stomach problems (he already had an irritable GI tract). If you have the patience, it may be worth your while to try out Celebrex, as you may have the opposite problem of my friend. If not, opiates may be the big bandaid for the situation; they do not get to the root, but they can be a lifesaver if nothing else works. –On Monday, February 11, 2002 5:51 AM -0800 Adrian – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Katharine: : How about the Cox-II inhibitor class of anti-inflammatories? Are they : helpful for Chrohns? Mouse: Katharine: Vioxx is one of the COX-IIs. Katharine: Oh, ok Weird that it’s giving Ann stomach problems, that’s what it’s designed to avoid! Mind you, there’s still some questions about how effective they are in that regard. Ann, I wonder whether it’s actually not that, but something else causing your symptoms, not the Vioxx? The Cox-II inhibitors still cause stomach problems, they are just LESS likely to cause fatal ulcers than aspirin or older anti-inflammatories. Unfortunately, the manufacturers (who have an obvious reason to want everyone to think of these pills as safer than candy) have published some very misleading articles in medical journals. When the drugs first came out, they published a report of a big study – they reported it as a 6-month study with very good results, no deaths, very few serious ulcers. This was quoted in all the advertising. It came out later that it had really been a year-long study, with most of the ulcers and all the deaths happening in the second half of the year…the medical journal was very embarrassed. They are supposed to only publish good articles, with honest and well-done science. They are not supposed to accept implicit bribes from companies that buy lots and lots of advertising. The reports saying Cox-II inhibitors are perfectly safe got a lot of publicity from the medical journals, and they are quoted in all the product advertising. Doctors remember them. The later reports saying they’re more dangerous than they seem were embarrassing to both the drug companies and the medical journals. Doctors are much less likely to remember them in enough detail to use the information, though they might vaguely recall there was a scandal about a medical journal publishing a misleading study. It’s possible that Ann just came down with a viral infection when she started taking the Vioxx. But stomach irritation is a known side effect of Vioxx. It doesn’t happen to everyone, but it’s very real to the people it does happen to.
Clara Bittner-Rossmiller Carnegie Mellon University MCS, SHS "I hope life isn’t just a big joke, because I don’t get it." -Jack Handey
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I have to take a Prevacid or Nexium - or some type of stomach-acid reducer – every morning and night, since I have been taking oxycodone. It seems to help some. I also have Tums on hand for quick relief. good luck, kim
– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Hi all, I have Crohn’s-Colitis, which affects both my large and small intestines. I also have ankylosing spondalitis, a type of arthritis which can attack any or all of my joints at once. I have pain of one type or another every day. I want to try and figure out a type of pain med that can help me without killing my stomach. I just had a bad arthritis incident and the Doc prescribed me Vioxx. I had to stop taking it after two days as I developed a low grade fever, had persistent heartburn and some major abdominal pain. Hopefully it didn’t give me an ulcer. Today I can barely get out of bed and I am just weak. I have a temp. of 100 today. Any advice? Thanks, Ann
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– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – : How about the Cox-II inhibitor class of anti-inflammatories? Are they : helpful for Chrohns? Katharine: Vioxx is one of the COX-IIs. Oh, ok Weird that it’s giving Ann stomach problems, that’s what it’s designed to avoid! Mind you, there’s still some questions about how effective they are in that regard. Ann, I wonder whether it’s actually not that, but something else causing your symptoms, not the Vioxx?
Within 1-0 days I was puking blood again taking Vioxx. The first NSAID I had tried in 10 years. I have had the super surgery they used to do for ulcers. The one where they remove most of the stomach and sever the vegus nerve. They also had to do a pyloraplasty because I had so much scarring from ulcers the pylorus was completely blocked. Vioxx is still an NSAID – no matter what they claim.
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: I have to take a Prevacid or Nexium - or some type : of stomach-acid reducer – every morning and night, : since I have been taking oxycodone. : It seems to help some. I also have Tums on hand for : quick relief. Me too! I’ve been taking something like Prevacid, Aciphex or Protonix since I was put on MSContin. Fortunately it does the job completely; I don’t need a Tums chaser. Mouse <:3)))))~~ "This invisible man has a place for you full of fire, smoke, burning and torture and he will send you there to choke, scream, die, suffer and burn for the end of time. But he *loves* you!" ~George Carlin : : good luck, : kim : :
: Hi all, : : I have Crohn’s-Colitis, which affects both my large and small intestines. : I : also have ankylosing spondalitis, a type of arthritis which can attack any : or all of my joints at once. I have pain of one type or another every : day. : I want to try and figure out a type of pain med that can help me without : killing my stomach. : : I just had a bad arthritis incident and the Doc prescribed me Vioxx. I : had : to stop taking it after two days as I developed a low grade fever, had : persistent heartburn and some major abdominal pain. Hopefully it didn’t : give me an ulcer. Today I can barely get out of bed and I am just weak. : I : have a temp. of 100 today. Any advice? : : Thanks, : : : Ann : : : :
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I have used codeine i.e. Tylenol 3’s after surgery and stuff. I don’t like to feel out of it though. I will only use it when I pretty much can’t handle the pain. Ann
– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Hello Ann, You certainly have your share of pain to deal with – and then some! It sounds as though the anti-inflamitories are out of the question for you. It’s been said before, but they are dangerous to many people, not only for the side effects you just experienced, but also for causing bleeding. Have you ever tried opiates of any kind? While they might not directly treat the inflamation of the spondalitis, they might well help your pain level in general. I have Chrohns’, and oxycontin seems to have a calming effect on it that none of the other meds designed specifically for intestinal problems does. Best to you, codeee Hi all, I have Crohn’s-Colitis, which affects both my large and small intestines. I also have ankylosing spondalitis, a type of arthritis which can attack any or all of my joints at once. I have pain of one type or another every day. I want to try and figure out a type of pain med that can help me without killing my stomach. I just had a bad arthritis incident and the Doc prescribed me Vioxx. I had to stop taking it after two days as I developed a low grade fever, had persistent heartburn and some major abdominal pain. Hopefully it didn’t give me an ulcer. Today I can barely get out of bed and I am just weak. I have a temp. of 100 today. Any advice? Thanks, Ann
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I would if I could…unfortunately I am severely allergic to sulpha drugs so I wouldn’t be able to take it. Ann
– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – I do have a friend who took Vioxx with no problem, then tried switching over to Celebrex (another Cox-II, if I am not mistaken) and Celebrex caused him bad stomach problems (he already had an irritable GI tract). If you have the patience, it may be worth your while to try out Celebrex, as you may have the opposite problem of my friend. If not, opiates may be the big bandaid for the situation; they do not get to the root, but they can be a lifesaver if nothing else works. –On Monday, February 11, 2002 5:51 AM -0800 Adrian Katharine: : How about the Cox-II inhibitor class of anti-inflammatories? Are they : helpful for Chrohns? Mouse: Katharine: Vioxx is one of the COX-IIs. Katharine: Oh, ok Weird that it’s giving Ann stomach problems, that’s what it’s designed to avoid! Mind you, there’s still some questions about how effective they are in that regard. Ann, I wonder whether it’s actually not that, but something else causing your symptoms, not the Vioxx? The Cox-II inhibitors still cause stomach problems, they are just LESS likely to cause fatal ulcers than aspirin or older anti-inflammatories. Unfortunately, the manufacturers (who have an obvious reason to want everyone to think of these pills as safer than candy) have published some very misleading articles in medical journals. When the drugs first came out, they published a report of a big study – they reported it as a 6-month study with very good results, no deaths, very few serious ulcers. This was quoted in all the advertising. It came out later that it had really been a year-long study, with most of the ulcers and all the deaths happening in the second half of the year…the medical journal was very embarrassed. They are supposed to only publish good articles, with honest and well-done science. They are not supposed to accept implicit bribes from companies that buy lots and lots of advertising. The reports saying Cox-II inhibitors are perfectly safe got a lot of publicity from the medical journals, and they are quoted in all the product advertising. Doctors remember them. The later reports saying they’re more dangerous than they seem were embarrassing to both the drug companies and the medical journals. Doctors are much less likely to remember them in enough detail to use the information, though they might vaguely recall there was a scandal about a medical journal publishing a misleading study. It’s possible that Ann just came down with a viral infection when she started taking the Vioxx. But stomach irritation is a known side effect of Vioxx. It doesn’t happen to everyone, but it’s very real to the people it does happen to. Clara Bittner-Rossmiller Carnegie Mellon University MCS, SHS "I hope life isn’t just a big joke, because I don’t get it." -Jack Handey
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I just had a bad arthritis incident and the Doc prescribed me Vioxx. I had to stop taking it after two days as I developed a low grade fever, had persistent heartburn and some major abdominal pain. Hopefully it didn’t give me an ulcer. Today I can barely get out of bed and I am just weak. I have a temp. of 100 today. Any advice?
I was given Vioxx to try for cramps (menstrual), and I too had a terrible time with abdominal pain. It caused a flare of my Pancreatitis! I won’t touch the stuff again. I hope you can find a medication that works for your pain and allows you to live a "normal" life. Robin Path: lobby!ngtf-m01.news.aol.com!portc03.blue.aol.com!newsfeed.cwix.com!wn2fee
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I am *not* a Medical Doctor (MD) or *any* other type of Medical Professional. PLEASE consult your own Dr. for medical advice. The information posted is information I have learned from researching or learning from my own disease.
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How about the Cox-II inhibitor class of anti-inflammatories? Are they helpful for Chrohns
Katharine, Ann said she had tried the Vioxx, but it caused her a lot of problems. Vioxx is one of the two Cox-II Inhibitors on the market…Celebrex is the other. Robin Path: lobby!ngtf-m01.news.aol.com!portc03.blue.aol.com!newsfeed.cwix.com!news.m
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Katharine, I too had a problem with stomach pain after taking Vioxx. For me it was my Pancreas in particular. Even though it is touted as being a drug that won’t have the same side effects as NSAID’s, it can still do it…. Robin Path: lobby!ngtf-m01.news.aol.com!portc01.blue.aol.com!news.maxwell.syr.edu!new
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I am *not* a Medical Doctor (MD) or *any* other type of Medical Professional. PLEASE consult your own Dr. for medical advice. The information posted is information I have learned from researching or learning from my own disease.
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Robin, as someone who has problems with anti-inflamitories and sulfa drugs, I was given a real sales job about Cox-11 meds. I was not surprised when they were worse – if anything than the anti-inflamitories. I then learned they were not for those with sulfa sensitivity either. I’d certainly advise anyone to be cautious with them. codeee – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -Katharine, I too had a problem with stomach pain after taking Vioxx. For me it was my Pancreas in particular. Even though it is touted as being a drug that won’t have the same side effects as NSAID’s, it can still do it…. Robin Path: lobby!ngtf-m01.news.aol.com!portc01.blue.aol.com!news.maxwell.syr.edu!new sfeed.dacom.co.kr!intgwlon.nntp.telstra.net!news.telstra.net!news1.optus.n et.au!optus!spool01.syd.optusnet.com.au!spool.optusnet.com.au!210.49.20.11 9.MISMATCH!not-for-mail Newsgroups: alt.support.chronic-pain X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4133.2400 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4133.2400 Lines: 28 NNTP-Posting-Host: 203.164.208.135 X-Trace: 1013428734 6127 203.164.208.135 : How about the Cox-II inhibitor class of anti-inflammatories? Are they : helpful for Chrohns? Katharine: Vioxx is one of the COX-IIs. Oh, ok Weird that it’s giving Ann stomach problems, that’s what it’s designed to avoid! Mind you, there’s still some questions about how effective they are in that regard. Ann, I wonder whether it’s actually not that, but something else causing your symptoms, not the Vioxx? — Katharine S. I am *not* a Medical Doctor (MD) or *any* other type of Medical Professional. PLEASE consult your own Dr. for medical advice. The information posted is information I have learned from researching or learning from my own disease.
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Go for the herbs right away, find them and other healthy information at your local co-op/health food store. Focus on good digestion and elimination. Lots of water, good, your already smart, continue the process of taking charge of your own treatment. Sweating, hot baths, exercise if you can until you sweat, follow w/ cold shower (the colder the better if you can stand it) they all generate endorphins = pain relief. It worked for me. Good Luck, let me know what works. Bob
That’s awfully general, and doesn’t take into account the differences in ‘types’ of RA, nor the differences in physical condition and circumstances of the individual. Sweating and hot baths might have been fine for you, but could be quite dangerous for some others. Hot baths followed by the coldest shower you can stand is a very, very bad for some people. There is no evidence that I know of that all (some but not all) of the things you mention have any appreciable effect upon endorphin production. Besides, heightened endorphin production does not necessarily relieve pain. I am glad it worked for you. But sometimes, nothing is needed, as the mere passage of time will produce the benefits. There is spontaneous remission in many cases. If that was your case, I am glad you were the lucky one. Not everybody is so lucky. When simple self-care doesn’t work, it is just goofy to let the disease progress when there are good treatments available. Best of luck to you. I hope that simple measures continue to be of benefit to you. But please, don’t assume that this is true for everyone. It is downright insulting and demeaning to those of use who need more, much more.
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Go for the herbs right away, find them and other healthy information at your local co-op/health food store. Focus on good digestion and elimination. Lots of water, good, your already smart, continue the process of taking charge of your own treatment. Sweating, hot baths, exercise if you can until you sweat, follow w/ cold shower (the colder the better if you can stand it) they all generate endorphins = pain relief. It worked for me. Good Luck, let me know what works. Bob
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Go for the herbs right away, find them and other healthy information at your local co-op/health food store. Focus on good digestion and elimination. Lots of water, good, your already smart, continue the process of taking charge of your own treatment. Sweating, hot baths, exercise if you can until you sweat, follow w/ cold shower (the colder the better if you can stand it) they all generate endorphins = pain relief. It worked for me. Good Luck, let me know what works. Bob
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Go for the herbs right away, find them and other healthy information at your local co-op/health food store. Focus on good digestion and elimination. Lots of water, good, your already smart, continue the process of taking charge of your own treatment. Sweating, hot baths, exercise if you can until you sweat, follow w/ cold shower (the colder the better if you can stand it) they all generate endorphins = pain relief. It worked for me. Good Luck, let me know what works. Bob
That’s awfully general, and doesn’t take into account the differences in ‘types’ of RA, nor the differences in physical condition and circumstances of the individual. Sweating and hot baths might have been fine for you, but could be quite dangerous for some others. Hot baths followed by the coldest shower you can stand is a very, very bad for some people. There is no evidence that I know of that all (some but not all) of the things you mention have any appreciable effect upon endorphin production. Besides, heightened endorphin production does not necessarily relieve pain. I am glad it worked for you. But sometimes, nothing is needed, as the mere passage of time will produce the benefits. There is spontaneous remission in many cases. If that was your case, I am glad you were the lucky one. Not everybody is so lucky. When simple self-care doesn’t work, it is just goofy to let the disease progress when there are good treatments available. Best of luck to you. I hope that simple measures continue to be of benefit to you. But please, don’t assume that this is true for everyone. It is downright insulting and demeaning to those of use who need more, much more.
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Go for the herbs right away, find them and other healthy information at your local co-op/health food store. Focus on good digestion and elimination. Lots of water, good, your already smart, continue the process of taking charge of your own treatment. Sweating, hot baths, exercise if you can until you sweat, follow w/ cold shower (the colder the better if you can stand it) they all generate endorphins = pain relief. It worked for me. Good Luck, let me know what works. Bob
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Go for the herbs right away, find them and other healthy information at your local co-op/health food store. Focus on good digestion and elimination. Lots of water, good, your already smart, continue the process of taking charge of your own treatment. Sweating, hot baths, exercise if you can until you sweat, follow w/ cold shower (the colder the better if you can stand it) they all generate endorphins = pain relief. It worked for me. Good Luck, let me know what works. Bob
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