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Deviated Septum
Question:
Bruce I had a deviated septum and had it corrected with a septoplasty that I think is the name of the procedure. It certainly helped use of CPAP, however CPAP doesn’t do much for me but that is a long story. If you get relief with CPAP correction of your deviated septum will help. Kind regards John BAM514 <bam…@aol.com
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Over the years and especially since my diagnosis of OSA seven months ago
I
seem to have developed a dependence on Afrin (sinus). Came clean with my doctor two weeks ago and haven’t used it since. He gave me Allegra D to
try
and except for one night has worked. He also sent me to an ENT doctor.
Had
the appointment today and found out I have a deviated septum. The ENT
gave me
some Nasacort to try for a month and see if that helps. ENT says after a
month
I need the surgery for deviated septum I would probably miss one week of
work.
This is new to me. I’m sure I’ve seen talk of deviated septum’s on this
NG
before. Any advise on how to make the right decision on this will be appreciated. Thank you in advance. Regards, Bruce
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bam…@aol.com (BAM514) wrote:
Over the years and especially since my diagnosis of OSA seven months ago I seem to have developed a dependence on Afrin (sinus). Came clean with my doctor two weeks ago and haven’t used it since. He gave me Allegra D to try and except for one night has worked. He also sent me to an ENT doctor. Had the appointment today and found out I have a deviated septum. The ENT gave
me
some Nasacort to try for a month and see if that helps. ENT says after a
month
I need the surgery for deviated septum I would probably miss one week of
work.
This is new to me. I’m sure I’ve seen talk of deviated septum’s on this NG before. Any advise on how to make the right decision on this will be appreciated. Thank you in advance. Regards, Bruce
I would get at least two opinions, and ask each of the docs what percentage of nasal area can be opened up with septoplasty. Also, I would like you to know that the Afrin likely left some permanent membraneous inflammation, so see if an ENT can spray an antiinflammatory in your nose for just a moment; if it opens up significantly, then membraneous inflammation is likely the culprit; if it doesn’t, then septal deviations. Afrin should be banned due to its rebound effect, and its manufacturer should be sued. Doug —–== Posted via Deja News, The Leader in Internet Discussion ==—– http://www.dejanews.com/ Now offering spam-free web-based newsreading
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Found this posting interesting personally. I am 25, and was diagnosed with Restless Legs Syndrome about 6 months ago, after taking a sleep test. I’ve been taking a medicine that hasn’t helped, and my doctor doesn’t know what else to do, although I belong to medical group that is teaching new physicians and has a sleep disorders lab! ENT found that I have "Chronic Postnasal Drip", gave me Vancanase Nasal Spray to reduce dry/sore throat (which has helped), Have a septoplatsy planned soon to correct my way twisted nasal septum (Nope, never broke it in a fight or anything, just grew all funky I guess). Like to get info about new medicines/treatments and clinical trials for RLS, hope that the septo will correct this a bit.
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Fixing a deviated septum is the ONE thing I can recommend. I managed to mangle mine twice now, and fixed twice too. It will make a big difference. Best of luck. — Peter, member CAUCE, www.cauce.org If you want complaints to your provider – go ahead and SPAM me. I actively boycott SPAM advertisers and recommend such action to everyone I know.
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I had a deviated septum corrected surgically several years ago. Best decision I ever made. Loki – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -BAM514 wrote:
Over the years and especially since my diagnosis of OSA seven months ago I seem to have developed a dependence on Afrin (sinus). Came clean with my doctor two weeks ago and haven’t used it since. He gave me Allegra D to try and except for one night has worked. He also sent me to an ENT doctor. Had the appointment today and found out I have a deviated septum. The ENT gave me some Nasacort to try for a month and see if that helps. ENT says after a month I need the surgery for deviated septum I would probably miss one week of work. This is new to me. I’m sure I’ve seen talk of deviated septum’s on this NG before. Any advise on how to make the right decision on this will be appreciated. Thank you in advance. Regards, Bruce
Response:
Over the years and especially since my diagnosis of OSA seven months ago I seem to have developed a dependence on Afrin (sinus). Came clean with my doctor two weeks ago and haven’t used it since. He gave me Allegra D to try and except for one night has worked. He also sent me to an ENT doctor. Had the appointment today and found out I have a deviated septum. The ENT gave me some Nasacort to try for a month and see if that helps. ENT says after a month I need the surgery for deviated septum I would probably miss one week of work. This is new to me. I’m sure I’ve seen talk of deviated septum’s on this NG before. Any advise on how to make the right decision on this will be appreciated. Thank you in advance. Regards, Bruce
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"Jim" <den…@bellsouth.net
wrote: Tony, My wife poked me so much I finally decided to sleep in my den. She would tell me that I stopped snoring when she poked me.
Jane insists that she’d developed a callus on her elbow from trying to kick-start my breathing every night. I’m sure she exaggerates, but that inexplicable pain in my ribs every morning _did_ go away after I was treated. <g
Tom
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Jane insists that she’d developed a callus on her elbow from trying to kick-start my breathing every night. I’m sure she exaggerates, but that inexplicable pain in my ribs every morning _did_ go away after I was treated. <g
wish i could blame my pain in the ribs on that! went to an osteopath for what i was told by my doc was a back prob (pain in my side) she couldn’t figure out what the prob was - ended up makin the pain worse when she poked around my ribs tho….didn’t go back after that – i’m living on disability and decided paying someone to make the pain worse just wasn’t worth the sacrifice — Beth in Australia =================== FAQ for alt.support.sleep-disorder can be found here http://www.anchorweb.com.au/sleepdisorders this site is a work in progress – feel free to submit info/articles
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<<Had to use hotels at airports so people would think it was a 747 landing
Tony, My kids say that I need to sleep as far away from the airport as I can because I can "suck down low flying aircraft" when I snore……anyone know a good boarding school?
Cindy
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Had you done any coughing prior to pain in chest. I had a recent coughing siege from bronchial asthma. Didn’t think I was doing any special coughing; however, I either pulled a chest muscle or broke a rib (which is not unheard of). It hurt like sin. HTH – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -Tal wrote:
Jane insists that she’d developed a callus on her elbow from trying to kick-start my breathing every night. I’m sure she exaggerates, but that inexplicable pain in my ribs every morning _did_ go away after I was treated. <g wish i could blame my pain in the ribs on that! went to an osteopath for what i was told by my doc was a back prob (pain in my side) she couldn’t figure out what the prob was - ended up makin the pain worse when she poked around my ribs tho….didn’t go back after that – i’m living on disability and decided paying someone to make the pain worse just wasn’t worth the sacrifice — Beth in Australia =================== FAQ for alt.support.sleep-disorder can be found here http://www.anchorweb.com.au/sleepdisorders this site is a work in progress – feel free to submit info/articles
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Had you done any coughing prior to pain in chest. I had a recent coughing
siege
from bronchial asthma. Didn’t think I was doing any special coughing;
however, I
either pulled a chest muscle or broke a rib (which is not unheard of). It
hurt like
sin.
heh, nope – unfortunately it’s not a simple problem (as with everything that’s wrong with me) i’ve had this pain for a couple of yrs now…. it’s getting progressively worse tho….. not to mention significiantly worse with the help of the osteopath LOL — Beth in Australia =================== FAQ for alt.support.sleep-disorder can be found here http://www.anchorweb.com.au/sleepdisorders this site is a work in progress – feel free to submit info/articles
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I broke a rib coughing. The only good thing about it was that I was on my way to the doctor’s office for an appointment. Fast treatment plan, that. [Yes, we got rid of the cough, as well as healing the rib.] – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -NormC wrote:
Had you done any coughing prior to pain in chest. I had a recent coughing siege from bronchial asthma. Didn’t think I was doing any special coughing; however, I either pulled a chest muscle or broke a rib (which is not unheard of). It hurt like sin. HTH Tal wrote: Jane insists that she’d developed a callus on her elbow from trying to kick-start my breathing every night. I’m sure she exaggerates, but that inexplicable pain in my ribs every morning _did_ go away after I was treated. <g wish i could blame my pain in the ribs on that! went to an osteopath for what i was told by my doc was a back prob (pain in my side) she couldn’t figure out what the prob was - ended up makin the pain worse when she poked around my ribs tho….didn’t go back after that – i’m living on disability and decided paying someone to make the pain worse just wasn’t worth the sacrifice — Beth in Australia =================== FAQ for alt.support.sleep-disorder can be found here http://www.anchorweb.com.au/sleepdisorders this site is a work in progress – feel free to submit info/articles
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It’s usually the parner’s that get people into sleep clinics sounds like maybe sleep apnea but you will find out with test. "Jim" <den…@bellsouth.net
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Tony, My wife poked me so much I finally decided to sleep in my den. She would tell me that I stopped snoring when she poked me. It was because I don’t snore when I’m awake. She woke me so often it was like torturing. I felt like a POW. Now I sleep a lot more but I still always tire. I can sleep 10 hours and still yawn all day. I think that we get along better since I
sleep > in a separate. We used to cruise a lot and I would rent a suite so that my > daughter could join us. Now she gets her own room and pays for the double > occupancy. It was my Cardiologist that picked up on this and arranged for > the sleep studies. > Jim > "Tony" <x…@roger.com
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> news:wkJV8.5749$b8O1.4775@news01.bloor.is.net.cable.rogers.com… > > My apologies Jim – should have included a link. You can view various > > products here > > http://www.cpapman.com/hints2.htm > > and styles of nasal pillows > > http://www.cpapman.com/hints.htm > > General info sites > > http://www.talkaboutsleep.com/ > > http://www.anchorweb.com.au/sleepdisorders/ > > http://www.sleepnet.com/ > > The advantage I found with the nasal pillows is that they "open" the > passage > > way. With a mask I experienced a sense of having difficulty breathing. > > I could have had my septum straightened out again, but wasn’t in the frame
of mind and the success rate of the operation holding tends to drop the more often its done. The chin strap keeps me from breathing out of my mouth. Some have
success
training themselves to keep their tongue on the roof of their mouth against their teeth. As to snoring – my son used to come into my room at night and hit me to get me to wake up. Had to use hotels at airports so people would think it
was
a 747 landing
the
neighbourhood sleeps better.
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In this case it was my cardiologist (very good doctor who treats me as a whole and not just an organ) I just found out the my younger brother has been on CPAP for a year and a half. Jim "rocky" <ro…@rocky.tv
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news:ag86at$13qt$1@otis.netspace.net.au… – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> It’s usually the parner’s that get people into sleep clinics sounds like > maybe sleep apnea but you will find out with test. > "Jim" <den…@bellsouth.net
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> news:%PJV8.63513$N8.67967230@e3500-atl1.usenetserver.com… > > Tony, > > My wife poked me so much I finally decided to sleep in my den. She would > > tell me that I stopped snoring when she poked me. It was because I don’t > > snore when I’m awake. She woke me so often it was like torturing. I felt > > like a POW. Now I sleep a lot more but I still always tire. I can sleep 10
hours and still yawn all day. I think that we get along better since I sleep in a separate. We used to cruise a lot and I would rent a suite so that
my
daughter could join us. Now she gets her own room and pays for the
double
occupancy. It was my Cardiologist that picked up on this and arranged
for > > the sleep studies. > > Jim > > "Tony" <x…@roger.com
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> > news:wkJV8.5749$b8O1.4775@news01.bloor.is.net.cable.rogers.com… > > > My apologies Jim – should have included a link. You can view various > > > products here > > > http://www.cpapman.com/hints2.htm > > > and styles of nasal pillows > > > http://www.cpapman.com/hints.htm > > > General info sites > > > http://www.talkaboutsleep.com/ > > > http://www.anchorweb.com.au/sleepdisorders/ > > > http://www.sleepnet.com/ > > > The advantage I found with the nasal pillows is that they "open" the > > passage > > > way. With a mask I experienced a sense of having difficulty breathing.
I could have had my septum straightened out again, but wasn’t in the frame of mind and the success rate of the operation holding tends to drop
the
more often its done. The chin strap keeps me from breathing out of my mouth. Some have success training themselves to keep their tongue on the roof of their mouth against their teeth. As to snoring – my son used to come into my room at night and hit me
to
get me to wake up. Had to use hotels at airports so people would think it was a 747 landing
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Thanks everyone "Tony" <x…@roger.com
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Come back with any questions – lots of very knowledgeable people here. This site is also a fairly easy read while being informative (St Joseph Health System sleep center) http://www.sjhsleepcenter.com/
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I forgot my dog! Actually, he now sleeps upstairs with me so that he can get some peace also. "NormC" <no…@socal.rr.com
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Jim wrote: The bruised ribs were to small part. I got very angry at her for
constantly
waking me up. My family Dr. said she’d have to learn to deal with it. We fought all the time about it. We’ve had to large parrots for thirty
years
that are like roosters. She goes to bed very early sand gets a big kick
out
of the racket that they make all morning. I go to bed late. I feel like killing them when they wake me;( Yah. Know what you mean here. We have a couple of attack shelties <g.
One is a
great watch dog. Barks at anything he hears outside the house – people
walking by,
people peering in window, etc. However, when someone knocks on the door, as opposed to using the
doorbell, he goes
crazy and then the second one chimes in. That is a helluva way to be
awakened, even > if you don’t have apnea. > > "NormC" <no…@socal.rr.com
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> > news:3D276E67.E579E609@socal.rr.com… > > > Jim wrote: > > > > Tony, > > > > My wife poked me so much I finally decided to sleep in my den. She would
tell me that I stopped snoring when she poked me. It was because I
don’t
snore when I’m awake. She woke me so often it was like torturing. I
felt
like a POW. Now I sleep a lot more but I still always tire. I can
sleep
10 hours and still yawn all day. Me too. My neurologist sleep doc is having me ltested for the
possibility
of central apnea. I think that we get along better since I sleep in a separate. We used to cruise a lot and I would rent a suite so
that
my daughter could join us. Now she gets her own room and pays for the double occupancy. It was my Cardiologist that picked up on this and
arranged > > for > > > > the sleep studies. > > > > Jim > > > > "Tony" <x…@roger.com
wrote in message
> > > > news:wkJV8.5749$b8O1.4775@news01.bloor.is.net.cable.rogers.com… > > > > > My apologies Jim – should have included a link. You can view various
products here http://www.cpapman.com/hints2.htm and styles of nasal pillows http://www.cpapman.com/hints.htm General info sites http://www.talkaboutsleep.com/ http://www.anchorweb.com.au/sleepdisorders/ http://www.sleepnet.com/ The advantage I found with the nasal pillows is that they "open"
the
passage way. With a mask I experienced a sense of having difficulty breathing. I could have had my septum straightened out again, but wasn’t in
the
frame of mind and the success rate of the operation holding tends to
drop
the more often its done. The chin strap keeps me from breathing out of my mouth. Some have success training themselves to keep their tongue on the roof of their
mouth
against their teeth. As to snoring – my son used to come into my room at night and hit
me
to get me to wake up. Had to use hotels at airports so people would
think it
was a 747 landing
think
the neighbourhood sleeps better.
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Oh yea – only lately have I thought about getting my septum straightened out again – and the reason is to stop my glasses sliding down my nose! If I can find a frame that will sit properly I probably won’t bother.
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Jim wrote:
The bruised ribs were to small part. I got very angry at her for constantly waking me up. My family Dr. said she’d have to learn to deal with it. We fought all the time about it. We’ve had to large parrots for thirty years that are like roosters. She goes to bed very early sand gets a big kick out of the racket that they make all morning. I go to bed late. I feel like killing them when they wake me;(
Yah. Know what you mean here. We have a couple of attack shelties <g
. One is a
great watch dog. Barks at anything he hears outside the house – people walking by, people peering in window, etc. However, when someone knocks on the door, as opposed to using the doorbell, he goes crazy and then the second one chimes in. That is a helluva way to be awakened, even if you don’t have apnea. – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -
"NormC" <no…@socal.rr.com wrote in message news:3D276E67.E579E609@socal.rr.com… Jim wrote: Tony, My wife poked me so much I finally decided to sleep in my den. She would tell me that I stopped snoring when she poked me. It was because I don’t snore when I’m awake. She woke me so often it was like torturing. I felt like a POW. Now I sleep a lot more but I still always tire. I can sleep 10 hours and still yawn all day. Me too. My neurologist sleep doc is having me ltested for the possibility of central apnea. I think that we get along better since I sleep in a separate. We used to cruise a lot and I would rent a suite so that my daughter could join us. Now she gets her own room and pays for the double occupancy. It was my Cardiologist that picked up on this and arranged for the sleep studies. Jim "Tony" <x…@roger.com wrote in message news:wkJV8.5749$b8O1.4775@news01.bloor.is.net.cable.rogers.com… My apologies Jim – should have included a link. You can view various products here http://www.cpapman.com/hints2.htm and styles of nasal pillows http://www.cpapman.com/hints.htm General info sites http://www.talkaboutsleep.com/ http://www.anchorweb.com.au/sleepdisorders/ http://www.sleepnet.com/ The advantage I found with the nasal pillows is that they "open" the passage way. With a mask I experienced a sense of having difficulty breathing. I could have had my septum straightened out again, but wasn’t in the frame of mind and the success rate of the operation holding tends to drop the more often its done. The chin strap keeps me from breathing out of my mouth. Some have success training themselves to keep their tongue on the roof of their mouth against their teeth. As to snoring – my son used to come into my room at night and hit me to get me to wake up. Had to use hotels at airports so people would think it was a 747 landing
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Come back with any questions – lots of very knowledgeable people here. This site is also a fairly easy read while being informative (St Joseph Health System sleep center) http://www.sjhsleepcenter.com/
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Jim hopefully the sleep studies identify your problem and if OSA that you adapt to the CPAP treatment. If you have any problems adjusting come and ask questions. Don’t rely solely on the equipment supplier or doctors for advice but educate yourself. Some very minor problems discourage people from using CPAP yet the solutions can be very simple. By example, with nasal pillows you can develop sores in many cases because the pillows are too small. Having Ayr gel (or Bag Balm my favourite) on hand helps get through the transition. See Mark’s post about mouth breathing (a chin strap or full mask). One other point – insist on a heated humidifier. Makes a world of difference for many folks. Once you’ve had your study please update us and pose questions. By the way – my ribs have healed nicely!
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Jim wrote:
Tony, My wife poked me so much I finally decided to sleep in my den. She would tell me that I stopped snoring when she poked me. It was because I don’t snore when I’m awake. She woke me so often it was like torturing. I felt like a POW. Now I sleep a lot more but I still always tire. I can sleep 10 hours and still yawn all day.
Me too. My neurologist sleep doc is having me ltested for the possibility of central apnea. – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -
I think that we get along better since I sleep in a separate. We used to cruise a lot and I would rent a suite so that my daughter could join us. Now she gets her own room and pays for the double occupancy. It was my Cardiologist that picked up on this and arranged for the sleep studies. Jim "Tony" <x…@roger.com wrote in message news:wkJV8.5749$b8O1.4775@news01.bloor.is.net.cable.rogers.com… My apologies Jim – should have included a link. You can view various products here http://www.cpapman.com/hints2.htm and styles of nasal pillows http://www.cpapman.com/hints.htm General info sites http://www.talkaboutsleep.com/ http://www.anchorweb.com.au/sleepdisorders/ http://www.sleepnet.com/ The advantage I found with the nasal pillows is that they "open" the passage way. With a mask I experienced a sense of having difficulty breathing. I could have had my septum straightened out again, but wasn’t in the frame of mind and the success rate of the operation holding tends to drop the more often its done. The chin strap keeps me from breathing out of my mouth. Some have success training themselves to keep their tongue on the roof of their mouth against their teeth. As to snoring – my son used to come into my room at night and hit me to get me to wake up. Had to use hotels at airports so people would think it was a 747 landing
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"Jim" <den…@bellsouth.net
wrote: I have had many broken noses and many Rhinoplasties. I still find it difficult to breath out of my nose, particularly one side. Since you must keep your mouth shut for CPAP to work properly will this be an option for me.
Nasal pillows might do the trick for you, and a full-face mask or an oral device like the Oracle is always an option. You’ll have a better idea of what you need after your sleep test and titration.
If they decide to operate again on my nose again, which requires anterior and posterior packing to heal properly (1 week) will this be dangerous for me since you can only breathe out of you mouth until the packing is removed.
If you’re fitted with a nasal mask, you’d be going a week without CPAP, but isn’t that what you’re doing now? It’s no more dangerous after going on CPAP, but (assuming good results from CPAP) you probably won’t _want_ to do it. Tom
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The bruised ribs were to small part. I got very angry at her for constantly waking me up. My family Dr. said she’d have to learn to deal with it. We fought all the time about it. We’ve had to large parrots for thirty years that are like roosters. She goes to bed very early sand gets a big kick out of the racket that they make all morning. I go to bed late. I feel like killing them when they wake me;
(
"NormC" <no…@socal.rr.com
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Jim wrote: Tony, My wife poked me so much I finally decided to sleep in my den. She would tell me that I stopped snoring when she poked me. It was because I don’t snore when I’m awake. She woke me so often it was like torturing. I felt like a POW. Now I sleep a lot more but I still always tire. I can sleep
10
hours and still yawn all day. Me too. My neurologist sleep doc is having me ltested for the possibility
of
central apnea. I think that we get along better since I sleep in a separate. We used to cruise a lot and I would rent a suite so that
my
daughter could join us. Now she gets her own room and pays for the
double
occupancy. It was my Cardiologist that picked up on this and arranged
for > > the sleep studies. > > Jim > > "Tony" <x…@roger.com
wrote in message
> > news:wkJV8.5749$b8O1.4775@news01.bloor.is.net.cable.rogers.com… > > > My apologies Jim – should have included a link. You can view various > > > products here > > > http://www.cpapman.com/hints2.htm > > > and styles of nasal pillows > > > http://www.cpapman.com/hints.htm > > > General info sites > > > http://www.talkaboutsleep.com/ > > > http://www.anchorweb.com.au/sleepdisorders/ > > > http://www.sleepnet.com/ > > > The advantage I found with the nasal pillows is that they "open" the > > passage > > > way. With a mask I experienced a sense of having difficulty breathing.
I could have had my septum straightened out again, but wasn’t in the
frame
of mind and the success rate of the operation holding tends to drop
the
more often its done. The chin strap keeps me from breathing out of my mouth. Some have
success
training themselves to keep their tongue on the roof of their mouth against their teeth. As to snoring – my son used to come into my room at night and hit me
to
get me to wake up. Had to use hotels at airports so people would think it
was
a 747 landing
the
neighbourhood sleeps better.
Response:
Tony, My wife poked me so much I finally decided to sleep in my den. She would tell me that I stopped snoring when she poked me. It was because I don’t snore when I’m awake. She woke me so often it was like torturing. I felt like a POW. Now I sleep a lot more but I still always tire. I can sleep 10 hours and still yawn all day. I think that we get along better since I sleep in a separate. We used to cruise a lot and I would rent a suite so that my daughter could join us. Now she gets her own room and pays for the double occupancy. It was my Cardiologist that picked up on this and arranged for the sleep studies. Jim "Tony" <x…@roger.com
wrote in message
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My apologies Jim – should have included a link. You can view various products here http://www.cpapman.com/hints2.htm and styles of nasal pillows http://www.cpapman.com/hints.htm General info sites http://www.talkaboutsleep.com/ http://www.anchorweb.com.au/sleepdisorders/ http://www.sleepnet.com/ The advantage I found with the nasal pillows is that they "open" the
passage
way. With a mask I experienced a sense of having difficulty breathing. I could have had my septum straightened out again, but wasn’t in the frame of mind and the success rate of the operation holding tends to drop the
more
often its done. The chin strap keeps me from breathing out of my mouth. Some have success training themselves to keep their tongue on the roof of their mouth
against
their teeth. As to snoring – my son used to come into my room at night and hit me to
get
me to wake up. Had to use hotels at airports so people would think it was
a
747 landing
Response:
Thanks Tony. This will keep me busy awhile ;
)
"Tony" <x…@roger.com
wrote in message
news:wkJV8.5749$b8O1.4775@news01.bloor.is.net.cable.rogers.com… – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -
My apologies Jim – should have included a link. You can view various products here http://www.cpapman.com/hints2.htm and styles of nasal pillows http://www.cpapman.com/hints.htm General info sites http://www.talkaboutsleep.com/ http://www.anchorweb.com.au/sleepdisorders/ http://www.sleepnet.com/ The advantage I found with the nasal pillows is that they "open" the
passage
way. With a mask I experienced a sense of having difficulty breathing. I could have had my septum straightened out again, but wasn’t in the frame of mind and the success rate of the operation holding tends to drop the
more
often its done. The chin strap keeps me from breathing out of my mouth. Some have success training themselves to keep their tongue on the roof of their mouth
against
their teeth. As to snoring – my son used to come into my room at night and hit me to
get
me to wake up. Had to use hotels at airports so people would think it was
a
747 landing
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My apologies Jim – should have included a link. You can view various products here http://www.cpapman.com/hints2.htm and styles of nasal pillows http://www.cpapman.com/hints.htm General info sites http://www.talkaboutsleep.com/ http://www.anchorweb.com.au/sleepdisorders/ http://www.sleepnet.com/ The advantage I found with the nasal pillows is that they "open" the passage way. With a mask I experienced a sense of having difficulty breathing. I could have had my septum straightened out again, but wasn’t in the frame of mind and the success rate of the operation holding tends to drop the more often its done. The chin strap keeps me from breathing out of my mouth. Some have success training themselves to keep their tongue on the roof of their mouth against their teeth. As to snoring – my son used to come into my room at night and hit me to get me to wake up. Had to use hotels at airports so people would think it was a 747 landing
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I’ve never heard of nasal pillows. I must just breath out of my mouth when I sleep. I snore loudly and am tired during the day. "Tony" <x…@roger.com
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I had my nose fixed and then rough housing with my son un-fixed it. Aside from breathing difficulties my glasses are always sliding down my nose because one side is so dented! Because of the deviation – and not being in the frame of mind to go to the hospital one more time – after lurking here post diagnosis I decided to go with nasal pillows (Breeze head gear) and chin strap. I used to sleep with an arm across my face and other strategies to try and "hold" the nostrils open enough to breath so I could get to sleep. I have not experienced any difficulty breathing with nasal pillows and
they
have proved great when I have had a cold or congestion. In fact 24 hr
colds
last 24 hrs instead of automatically leading to endless nasal infections
and
biotics. The Nasalair also looks interesting and something I’d like to try out.
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I have had many broken noses and many Rhinoplasties. I still find it difficult to breath out of my nose, particularly one side. Since you must keep your mouth shut for CPAP to work properly will this be an option for me. If they decide to operate again on my nose again, which requires anterior and posterior packing to heal properly (1 week) will this be dangerous for me since you can only breathe out of you mouth until the packing is removed. I have sleep study appointment at Baptist in Miami next week. Thanks for any info. Jim
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I had my nose fixed and then rough housing with my son un-fixed it. Aside from breathing difficulties my glasses are always sliding down my nose because one side is so dented! Because of the deviation – and not being in the frame of mind to go to the hospital one more time – after lurking here post diagnosis I decided to go with nasal pillows (Breeze head gear) and chin strap. I used to sleep with an arm across my face and other strategies to try and "hold" the nostrils open enough to breath so I could get to sleep. I have not experienced any difficulty breathing with nasal pillows and they have proved great when I have had a cold or congestion. In fact 24 hr colds last 24 hrs instead of automatically leading to endless nasal infections and biotics. The Nasalair also looks interesting and something I’d like to try out.
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I know this is a tired old subject..and it has been discussed many times here. I just never bothered reading any of the posts because "It couldn’t happen to ME…!!!!" Yeah, right. Funny, my sleep doc never said anything about septum or turbinates, etc. I don’t remember the GP ever mentioning it, but I’ve had a sinus infection that I couldn’t shake, so I finally went to see a highly regarded ENT. He tells me I’m getting very little flow in the right side and that the septum is deviated right and then left and the turbinates are very enlarged. So…what’s up with having that fixed? Talk to me, please……………..
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John Pengelley <j…@icenet.com.au
wrote: I’m not sure what MY specific problem is caused by, but when I breathe in, the right nostril closes and I get almost no air flow.
I had that problem when I tried a conventional nasal mask during titration, except that BOTH nostrils closed. I’ve had no problem with nasal pillows.
Then someone suggested I try Nasal Strips and they are just AMAZING. The ones I use are called Breathe Right and are like a stiff bandaid that you stick across you nose. It will try and spring straight and open the nasal passages and stop them collapsing shut when you breathe in. They are a bit dear, but for me, this is a simple, effective solution for about 50c / night.
At that rate, you could pay for a Breeze in less than a year. Tom
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I’ve wondered about pillows. This NG mentions them a lot. My provider has never mentioned them and I’m not sure if they are available or not, but I WILL investigate because your right. The ongoing cost of the strips is high, but probably similar to the sparays and Pills my doc told me to use. I don’t know if the pillows will actually inflate my collapsed right nostril, but I’ll let you know. Thanks On Fri, 06 Jul 2001 12:31:40 -0400, Tom Devlin – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -<tomdev…@ameritech.net
wrote: John Pengelley <j…@icenet.com.au wrote: I’m not sure what MY specific problem is caused by, but when I breathe in, the right nostril closes and I get almost no air flow. I had that problem when I tried a conventional nasal mask during titration, except that BOTH nostrils closed. I’ve had no problem with nasal pillows. Then someone suggested I try Nasal Strips and they are just AMAZING. The ones I use are called Breathe Right and are like a stiff bandaid that you stick across you nose. It will try and spring straight and open the nasal passages and stop them collapsing shut when you breathe in. They are a bit dear, but for me, this is a simple, effective solution for about 50c / night. At that rate, you could pay for a Breeze in less than a year. Tom
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John Pengelley <j…@icenet.com.au
wrote: I’ve wondered about pillows. This NG mentions them a lot. My provider has never mentioned them and I’m not sure if they are available or not, but I WILL investigate because your right.
Your provider will certainly have the ADAM Circuit version and they can get you a Breeze, you might have to lean on them a little.
I don’t know if the pillows will actually inflate my collapsed right nostril, but I’ll let you know.
Please do. The tech at the sleep lab seemed very surprised when I could’t draw a breath while wearing a nasal mask, I gather that the "collapsing nostril" problem isn’t too common. Tom – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -
Thanks On Fri, 06 Jul 2001 12:31:40 -0400, Tom Devlin <tomdev…@ameritech.net wrote: John Pengelley <j…@icenet.com.au wrote: I’m not sure what MY specific problem is caused by, but when I breathe in, the right nostril closes and I get almost no air flow. I had that problem when I tried a conventional nasal mask during titration, except that BOTH nostrils closed. I’ve had no problem with nasal pillows. Then someone suggested I try Nasal Strips and they are just AMAZING. The ones I use are called Breathe Right and are like a stiff bandaid that you stick across you nose. It will try and spring straight and open the nasal passages and stop them collapsing shut when you breathe in. They are a bit dear, but for me, this is a simple, effective solution for about 50c / night. At that rate, you could pay for a Breeze in less than a year. Tom
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John Pengelley <j…@icenet.com.au
wrote: Hi Moonraker I’m not sure what MY specific problem is caused by, but when I breathe in, the right nostril closes and I get almost no air flow.
In my case I have only had the nostril closures (one or both depending on the day, phase of moon etc) since being on the adams circuit for some time and going back to the ultra-mirage due to an irritation problem started when I walked into a door… I have decided it is almost easier to live with the adams irritating the bumped up nose than to sleep with the mask, yet I never had problems with the mask closing my nostril(s) for the 3 months I woke up with it blowing in my eye instead of my nose prior to the adams <sigh
too many variables
in these sleep equations <grin
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I know this is a tired old subject..and it has been discussed many times here. I just never bothered reading any of the posts because "It couldn’t happen to ME…!!!!" Yeah, right. Funny, my sleep doc never said anything about septum or turbinates, etc.
I
don’t remember the GP ever mentioning it, but I’ve had a sinus infection that I couldn’t shake, so I finally went to see a highly regarded ENT. He tells me I’m getting very little flow in the right side and that the
septum
is deviated right and then left and the turbinates are very enlarged. So…what’s up with having that fixed? Talk to me,
please…………….. I know nothing about the turbinates, but I had the deviated septum fixed and I am not the least bit sorry I had it done. I can now breath out of both nostrils. The surgery was not painful at all. I have not had any sinus problems since the surgery either. Sharon
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What is the name and info on the doc you saw in Texas. I saw Riley yesterday and he said on my nose he would talk care of it duirng surgery. My respiratory sleep doctor told me to ask Riley to look at it which was not done. "Lori&Mike" <mpow…@the-beach.net
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Here goes, I told you! Stanford didn’t catch my nasal congestion so don’t feel bad. You probably should try all the non-surgical things first (different nasal steroid sprays, maybe allergy relief’s, etc. check with
the
ENT). What kind of an exam did the doc do? If it didn’t include color endoscopic (camera up the nose) and a personal review of a CTscan/MRI, ask why not. I was shown my blockages by my ENT. Anyway, I’ve been posting a
lot
about this subject. Try http://groups.google.com/groups?q=lori%26mike&hl=en&safe=off&start=10… Look for the newest posts by Lori&Mike since I’m learning new things
daily.
I’ve posted on here and alt.support.sinusitis. If you and your ENT decide surgery is needed ask him if he is skilled at ethmoidectomies, working on ALL turbinates (superior/upper, middle, and inferior/lower). If he says middle and upper turbinates don’t need work or that they don’t block airflow, proceed with extreme caution (and ask the
doc
if he has read or updated his skills since finishing med school, and I’m
not > kidding). If this guys just lops off your lower turbinate like they did 10 > years ago, you could lose your sense of smell and taste. Now that you are > properly scared and you should be considering how crummy a lot of doctors > are, the good news is in my case my nasal work has helped my apnea > immensely. Good luck. > "Moonraker" <moonra…@bellsouth.net
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> news:fTu07.68649$HJ1.1107297@e3500-atl1.usenetserver.com… > > I know this is a tired old subject..and it has been discussed many times > > here. I just never bothered reading any of the posts because "It couldn’t
happen to ME…!!!!" Yeah, right. Funny, my sleep doc never said anything about septum or turbinates, etc. I don’t remember the GP ever mentioning it, but I’ve had a sinus infection that I couldn’t shake, so I finally went to see a highly regarded ENT.
He
tells me I’m getting very little flow in the right side and that the septum is deviated right and then left and the turbinates are very enlarged. So…what’s up with having that fixed? Talk to me, please……………..
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Hi Moonraker I’m not sure what MY specific problem is caused by, but when I breathe in, the right nostril closes and I get almost no air flow. When I started with CPAP, I tried some sprays. The ones that REALLY worked caused problems after a few days (Rebound Stuffiness) and the ones designed for long term use were useless. Then someone suggested I try Nasal Strips and they are just AMAZING. The ones I use are called Breathe Right and are like a stiff bandaid that you stick across you nose. It will try and spring straight and open the nasal passages and stop them collapsing shut when you breathe in. They are a bit dear, but for me, this is a simple, effective solution for about 50c / night. To see if you are a candidate for this approach, just put a finger on either side of your face and pull your nose open and try breathing in and out. If this works, then the strips are probably worth trying. Regards John Pengelley On Tue, 3 Jul 2001 22:12:42 -0400, "Moonraker" – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -<moonra…@bellsouth.net
wrote: I know this is a tired old subject..and it has been discussed many times here. I just never bothered reading any of the posts because "It couldn’t happen to ME…!!!!" Yeah, right. Funny, my sleep doc never said anything about septum or turbinates, etc. I don’t remember the GP ever mentioning it, but I’ve had a sinus infection that I couldn’t shake, so I finally went to see a highly regarded ENT. He tells me I’m getting very little flow in the right side and that the septum is deviated right and then left and the turbinates are very enlarged. So…what’s up with having that fixed? Talk to me, please……………..
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