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Considering Permanent Antibiotic Use

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I can understand your caution – but I don’t think it’s a fad. No one seems to be offering a cure for the big S. Why do infections attack the sinuses? – why do different infections occur?. I think that his observation that something happens to the blood vessels which helps infection start is credible. He says that unsuitable diet creates the conditions for the infection to get a hold. I’ve read his book – I’m still lazy and have not followd his diet, but I intend to try his recomendation for the herb collinsonia. (I suppose I’m open for attack now!)   Jim In article <932831832.667…@news.remarQ.com

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– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text ->To tell you the truth, I never heard of this book before, but it sure sounds >like another fad type health book, only written to make some money for its >writer and publisher, without being based on any real medical knowledge. >I never heard any doctor say that you should eat according to your blood >type. Has anyone seen any valid medical studies (not in that book) to that >effect? >Jim Bedford <j…@jimbedford.demon.co.uk> wrote in message >news:DlLDTEAwJIm3Ew2p@jimbedford.demon.co.uk… >> Source is Dr. peter d’adamo’s book  ’eat right for your type’ (blood >> type) >> He says that type O (me) and type B are more prone to chronic sinus >> infections. He says that CS is a sort of  hemorhoid or varicose vein of >> the head. He says there is no need to worry about toxicity of >> collinsonia (stone root) : this is a safe herb. >> I have ordered some by airmail and will inform after using it. >> I don’t think its another herbal fad – but it is wise to remain >> sceptical. >> Jim Bedford >> In article <932737775.892…@news.remarQ.com

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>> >Jim Bedford <j…@jimbedford.demon.co.uk> wrote in message >> >news:Uey2NCAYfzl3Ewec@jimbedford.demon.co.uk… >> >> I’ve been told that ’stone root’ (colinsonia) helps by reducing the >> >> inflamation of the blood vessels in the sinuses. I’ve yet to find it in >> >> the UK but I’ve just ordered it from the states. >> >Is there scientific evidence for this? Or another herbal fad? Where do >you >> >order it from? >> — >> Jim Bedford

– Jim Bedford

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James, What else have you tried?  . Bruce – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -James MacLachlan wrote:

I know this sounds crazy and dumb…..but it seems to be the ONLY thing to help, after years of suffering. Maybe I could switch around..there HAS to be SOME antibiotic out there mean’t for long term use. I am just so depressed, sick, and ill of the pain..the fatigue…you all know the sysmtoms. I just want to "kill" the pain…..I want to be back to my normal self again. James M.

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James MacLachlan wrote in message

I know this sounds crazy and dumb…..but it seems to be the ONLY thing to help, after years of suffering. Maybe I could switch around..there HAS to be SOME antibiotic out there mean’t for long term use

Sorry James but the medical literature warns against really long term use of antibiotics. It can make you feel generally unwell because it can upset the balance of beneficial bacteria in the intestine, causing tiredness, chronic diarrhoea and other unpleasant symptoms. Have you pursued all avenues? – have you had a CT scan, consulted an Allergist, an ENT specialist?  If so, homeopathy might be worth a try, I know of 2 people who have had relief from their sinus problems with this. Denis P.

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I know this sounds crazy and dumb…..but it seems to be the ONLY thing to help, after years of suffering. Maybe I could switch around..there HAS to be SOME antibiotic out there mean’t for long term use. I am just so depressed, sick, and ill of the pain..the fatigue…you all know the sysmtoms. I just want to "kill" the pain…..I want to be back to my normal self again. James M.

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I’ve been told that ’stone root’ (colinsonia) helps by reducing the inflamation of the blood vessels in the sinuses. I’ve yet to find it in the UK but I’ve just ordered it from the states. Source Dr. Peter D’adamo I’m sure that constant anti-biotics are wrong, albeit very tempting. Jim In article <37960…@news2.vip.uk.com

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James MacLachlan wrote in message I know this sounds crazy and dumb…..but it seems to be the ONLY thing to help, after years of suffering. Maybe I could switch around..there HAS to be SOME antibiotic out there mean’t for long term use Sorry James but the medical literature warns against really long term use of antibiotics. It can make you feel generally unwell because it can upset the balance of beneficial bacteria in the intestine, causing tiredness, chronic diarrhoea and other unpleasant symptoms. Have you pursued all avenues? – have you had a CT scan, consulted an Allergist, an ENT specialist?  If so, homeopathy might be worth a try, I know of 2 people who have had relief from their sinus problems with this. Denis P.

— Jim Bedford

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I have been through the routine many times plus I have had sinus surgery. I was awakened by my new ENT who was trained at Mayo Clinic. Upon examining my sinuses, he indicates there is an area that appears infected that was not reached during my previous surgery. To reach this area they must go inside the upper lip and above the jaw to get to this area. So surgery re-do might be pending. Secondly, in order to know what bacteria to treat, he indicates that mucous swabs don’t always work, but that he must knock me out and take a bone sample for lab analysis. Treatment will follow that and I think it will involve intravenous antibiotic treatment.     My advice is to keep pursuing the problem–find a doctor that seems to be more aggressive. These periodic treatments with antibiotics don’t seem to help much in getting rid of the basic problem.

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I’ve been told that ’stone root’ (colinsonia) helps by reducing the inflamation of the blood vessels in the sinuses. I’ve yet to find it in the UK but I’ve just ordered it from the states.

Is there scientific evidence for this? Or another herbal fad? Where do you order it from?

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Source is Dr. peter d’adamo’s book  ’eat right for your type’ (blood type) He says that type O (me) and type B are more prone to chronic sinus infections. He says that CS is a sort of  hemorhoid or varicose vein of the head. He says there is no need to worry about toxicity of collinsonia (stone root) : this is a safe herb. I have ordered some by airmail and will inform after using it. I don’t think its another herbal fad – but it is wise to remain sceptical. Jim Bedford In article <932737775.892…@news.remarQ.com

, MS <m…@nospam.com writes Jim Bedford <j…@jimbedford.demon.co.uk wrote in message news:Uey2NCAYfzl3Ewec@jimbedford.demon.co.uk… I’ve been told that ’stone root’ (colinsonia) helps by reducing the inflamation of the blood vessels in the sinuses. I’ve yet to find it in the UK but I’ve just ordered it from the states. Is there scientific evidence for this? Or another herbal fad? Where do you order it from?

— Jim Bedford

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After 5 years of steadily deteriorating health in spite of allergy shots, cortisone treatments, CAT scans, 2 sinus surgeries, handfuls of vitamins, multiple inhalers and countless prescriptions for short term doses of antibiotics, I finally went to the Mayo Clinic for an evaluation. The specialist found that my sinuses looked fine.  There were no structural problems.  After reviewing my history, he speculated that inactive cilia was allowing inhaled bacteria to accumulate in my sinuses.  He explained that doctors didn’t really know how to make the cilia recover but that the doctors at Mayo had found that sometimes, after 4 or 5 years of antibiotic treatment, that a patient’s cilia does recover.  He recommended regular sinus irrugation and antibiotics.  I left with refillable prescriptions for 2 different antiobiotics (Ceftin and eythromycin).  I took them on a rotating basis with 3 weeks on and 1 week off for the next year. The second year he prescribed erythromycin and a gentamycin solution for topical application.  During the second year I also was treated for several months for Candida by my regular doctor (MD & homeopath). On the third visit to Mayo, I had allergy tests and immune function testing in addition to the sinus exam.  My immune system was still in good working order.  I got prescriptions for erythromycin and Ceftin.  But as the year developed, I found the Ceftin was not very effective for me so I seldom took it.  I relied on erythromycin.  It’s cheap and does the best job for me at preventing acute sinus flareups and bronchial asthma. Now in my fourth year I am just taking erythromycin.  I know that it is still working for me.  If I slip up on taking the erythromycin on a regular basis for even a few days, I always start developing a sinus flareup.  I do sinus irrigations every 4 to 5 hours every day.  I take lots of vitamins. For me, full-time antibiotics are an essential part of managing my health. I feel so much better now than I did 5 years ago.  But it requires constant vigilance. It was hard for me to make the mental transition from finding a "cure" to finding techniques to manage the condition.  Next month I’m going back to my regular doctor to do a complete workup again.  I still hope that my cilia will recover and my symptoms will subside.  But I accept that it’s possible that I will always have sinus infections just like I’ll always have allergies. Hang in there! Laura Kett Phoenix, AZ mailto:laura-k…@home.com

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I’ve heard of the book and had a holistic Dr. suggest I try the diet.  I also know someone with sinusitis who did only that and got better.  It is harmless and worth a try if nothing else works.  Not everyone with a good program can get funding to do scientific studies.  If you read further many standard treatments M.D.s do such as nasal steroids have not been proven scientifically to help sinusitis, only allergies. Carol – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -MS wrote:

To tell you the truth, I never heard of this book before, but it sure sounds like another fad type health book, only written to make some money for its writer and publisher, without being based on any real medical knowledge. I never heard any doctor say that you should eat according to your blood type. Has anyone seen any valid medical studies (not in that book) to that effect? Jim Bedford <j…@jimbedford.demon.co.uk wrote in message news:DlLDTEAwJIm3Ew2p@jimbedford.demon.co.uk… Source is Dr. peter d’adamo’s book  ’eat right for your type’ (blood type) He says that type O (me) and type B are more prone to chronic sinus infections. He says that CS is a sort of  hemorhoid or varicose vein of the head. He says there is no need to worry about toxicity of collinsonia (stone root) : this is a safe herb. I have ordered some by airmail and will inform after using it. I don’t think its another herbal fad – but it is wise to remain sceptical. Jim Bedford In article <932737775.892…@news.remarQ.com, MS <m…@nospam.com writes Jim Bedford <j…@jimbedford.demon.co.uk wrote in message news:Uey2NCAYfzl3Ewec@jimbedford.demon.co.uk… I’ve been told that ’stone root’ (colinsonia) helps by reducing the inflamation of the blood vessels in the sinuses. I’ve yet to find it in the UK but I’ve just ordered it from the states. Is there scientific evidence for this? Or another herbal fad? Where do you order it from? — Jim Bedford

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I heard about it recently.  It’s brand spanking new.  I read about it on one of the news web pages. – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -MS <m…@nospam.com

wrote in message news:932831832.667.58@news.remarQ.com… To tell you the truth, I never heard of this book before, but it sure

sounds

like another fad type health book, only written to make some money for its writer and publisher, without being based on any real medical knowledge. I never heard any doctor say that you should eat according to your blood type. Has anyone seen any valid medical studies (not in that book) to that effect? Jim Bedford <j…@jimbedford.demon.co.uk wrote in message news:DlLDTEAwJIm3Ew2p@jimbedford.demon.co.uk… Source is Dr. peter d’adamo’s book  ’eat right for your type’ (blood type) He says that type O (me) and type B are more prone to chronic sinus infections. He says that CS is a sort of  hemorhoid or varicose vein of the head. He says there is no need to worry about toxicity of collinsonia (stone root) : this is a safe herb. I have ordered some by airmail and will inform after using it. I don’t think its another herbal fad – but it is wise to remain sceptical. Jim Bedford In article <932737775.892…@news.remarQ.com, MS <m…@nospam.com writes Jim Bedford <j…@jimbedford.demon.co.uk wrote in message news:Uey2NCAYfzl3Ewec@jimbedford.demon.co.uk… I’ve been told that ’stone root’ (colinsonia) helps by reducing the inflamation of the blood vessels in the sinuses. I’ve yet to find it

in

the UK but I’ve just ordered it from the states. Is there scientific evidence for this? Or another herbal fad? Where do you order it from? — Jim Bedford

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Permanent antibiotics wont help.  You’re sinus bugs will continue to mutate and eventually they will become resistant to all antibiotics. I spent the last 10 years on antibiotics of all kinds,  Ive had 6 sinus surgeries.  Did 8 months of IV antibiotics and now my infections are highly resistant to all antibiotics.

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To tell you the truth, I never heard of this book before, but it sure sounds like another fad type health book, only written to make some money for its writer and publisher, without being based on any real medical knowledge. I never heard any doctor say that you should eat according to your blood type. Has anyone seen any valid medical studies (not in that book) to that effect? Jim Bedford <j…@jimbedford.demon.co.uk

wrote in message

news:DlLDTEAwJIm3Ew2p@jimbedford.demon.co.uk… – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> Source is Dr. peter d’adamo’s book  ’eat right for your type’ (blood > type) > He says that type O (me) and type B are more prone to chronic sinus > infections. He says that CS is a sort of  hemorhoid or varicose vein of > the head. He says there is no need to worry about toxicity of > collinsonia (stone root) : this is a safe herb. > I have ordered some by airmail and will inform after using it. > I don’t think its another herbal fad – but it is wise to remain > sceptical. > Jim Bedford > In article <932737775.892…@news.remarQ.com>, MS <m…@nospam.com> writes > >Jim Bedford <j…@jimbedford.demon.co.uk

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> >news:Uey2NCAYfzl3Ewec@jimbedford.demon.co.uk… > >> I’ve been told that ’stone root’ (colinsonia) helps by reducing the > >> inflamation of the blood vessels in the sinuses. I’ve yet to find it in > >> the UK but I’ve just ordered it from the states. > >Is there scientific evidence for this? Or another herbal fad? Where do you

order it from? — Jim Bedford

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After all the antibiotic and still not completely well just makes me wonder… .if you kill the majority of bacteria with antibiotics, then what’s left?  Just those really ugly resistant bacteria, except now they have an open field to multiply without any competition from their former neighbors. It just doesn’t make since to me. Bruce Teschner <tesch…@amnix.com

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James, What else have you tried?  . Bruce James MacLachlan wrote: I know this sounds crazy and dumb…..but it seems to be the ONLY thing to help, after years of suffering. Maybe I could switch around..there HAS to be SOME antibiotic out there mean’t for long term use. I am just so depressed, sick, and ill of the pain..the fatigue…you all know the sysmtoms. I just want to "kill" the pain…..I want to be back to my normal self again. James M.

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In article <%03m3.73647$Fz2.11…@news.rdc1.az.home.com

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 "Laura Kett"

<laura-k…@home.com

wrote:
After 5 years of steadily deteriorating health

in spite of allergy shots,

cortisone treatments, CAT scans, 2 sinus

surgeries, handfuls of vitamins,

multiple inhalers and countless

prescriptions for short term doses of

antibiotics, I finally went to the

Mayo Clinic for an evaluation.

The specialist found that my sinuses

looked fine.  There were no structural

problems.  After reviewing my

history, he speculated that inactive cilia was

allowing inhaled bacteria to

accumulate in my sinuses.  He explained that

doctors didn’t really know how

to make the cilia recover but that the

doctors at Mayo had found that

sometimes, after 4 or 5 years of antibiotic

treatment, that a patient’s

cilia does recover.  He recommended regular

sinus irrugation and

antibiotics.
Did the doctor have anything to say about bacterial resistance to the
antibiotics?  I went to Mayo in Jacksonville and they were totally unsympathetic even with me reporting continued discolored postnasal drainage.  I too find I can only function on antibiotics, but am afraid to keep taking them so long.  I was taking Raxar with pretty good results,
but got a severe sunburn.  I stayed off for a while and got considerally
worse. I’m now taking clindamycin.
Kathy Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/ Share what you know. Learn what you don’t.

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